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Taliban in first heat-seeking missile attack-(gee chicom or Iranian made tool)
telegraph ^ | 7/27/07 | By Tom Coghlan in Kabul

Posted on 07/27/2007 9:33:08 PM PDT by Flavius

Taliban militants have used a heat-seeking surface-to-air missile to attack a Western aircraft over Afghanistan for the first time.

Click to enlarge Click to enlarge: how the attack was launched

The attack with a weapon believed to have been smuggled across the border with Iran represents a worrying increase in the capability of the militants which Western commanders had long feared.

The Daily Telegraph has learnt that the Taliban attempted to bring down an American C-130 Hercules aircraft flying over the south-western province of Nimroz on July 22. The crew reported that a missile system locked on to their aircraft and that a missile was fired

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: c130; china; chinese; hercules; iran; missiles; russia; russian; taliban; war

1 posted on 07/27/2007 9:33:12 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: Flavius
"Taliban militants have used a heat-seeking surface-to-air missile to attack a Western aircraft over Afghanistan for the first time."

The western msm immediately splooged in their pants and will raise prices, effective Monday, to pay for new trousers.

2 posted on 07/27/2007 9:37:53 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Flavius
The crew reported that a missile system locked on to their aircraft and that a missile was fired.

That would be radar guided if they knew they were locked on to

3 posted on 07/27/2007 9:46:49 PM PDT by Horatio Gates
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To: Horatio Gates

That’s what I thought, unless they are guessing or could tell
if the missle chased a decoy flare.


4 posted on 07/27/2007 9:51:36 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Flavius
It is time to take the gloves off - Our troops are hamstrung with that can't-shoot-until-shot-at garbage, ala 'nam. I have been told by those that are there that if they weren't held back, they could mop up the trouble right quick.

I would like to know who's responsible for this as well as the 'catch and release' - catch 'em, fingerprint and eye scan, take down a few stats and the have to LET THEM GO! - and they come back shooting at you tomorrow. Insanity.

5 posted on 07/27/2007 10:00:29 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ( "...but you can't fool all of the people all the time." LINCOLN)
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To: Flavius
That taliban is one lame terrorist group.

They're even propped up by the old media,yet they continue to die.

What a bunch of losers.

6 posted on 07/27/2007 10:07:56 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: Flavius

7 posted on 07/27/2007 10:22:21 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: maine-iac7

I agree with you 100%

we Have to lose the Rules of Engagement !

Most of these damn ‘rules’ are thought up by
military lawyers officers in the Judge Advocate Generals’ corps.

All of these JAG weenies should be pulled out of both Afghanistan and Iraq.

Let’s win these damn wars , using the sharp end of the stick
without any hands tied behind the back....


8 posted on 07/27/2007 10:36:05 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Eagles6

Hm. Is it me or didn’t a civilian plane get hit over Iraq by a shoulder fired heat seeking missle a while back. It survived, as I recall, but was damaged pretty well.


9 posted on 07/27/2007 11:02:44 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: maine-iac7

Welcome to “Vietnam!”


10 posted on 07/27/2007 11:16:51 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (In the Rise and Fall of United States I hope the Fall part is more than one chapter.)
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To: blam

SA-7 is a Russian version of the Stinger.


11 posted on 07/27/2007 11:54:30 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90

SA-7 is closer to the old Redeye.

This is not the first time such an engagement has occurred.
Last year Brit Harrier pilots reported being shot at by SA-7s while flying CAS over Helmand province.


12 posted on 07/28/2007 12:33:17 AM PDT by MadJack ("Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet." (Afghan proverb))
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To: Thunder90

Flight 800
(oh, but that was on Clinton’s watch, thus it couldn’t have been a terrorist attack)


13 posted on 07/28/2007 1:38:34 AM PDT by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: Horatio Gates

The AN/AAQ-24 can detect an IR missile launch.


14 posted on 07/28/2007 2:44:51 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: maine-iac7

The trail will lead back to the lawyers. I don’t know if it is lawyers on the Area Commander’s staff or if it goes clear back to the Pentagon but the legal eagles are behind the rules of engagement mess that our service personnel are controlled by when they fight.


15 posted on 07/28/2007 4:55:00 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (Swift as the wind; Calmly majestic as a forest; Steady as the mountains.)
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To: Flavius

Guerilla tactics are fungible.

The US provided large numbers of Stingers to help the Muslim guerilla forces bring down Soviet Red Army aircraft after the USSR invaded Afghanistan in 1980. Now “somebody” is providing similar weaponry to allow the Taliban and like-minded groups to take out US and allied aircraft.

Welcome to asymmetric 21st century warfare, where huge, expensive military dinosaurs designed for 20th century state-to-state wars, are trumped by inexpensive 21st technology available to ‘irregular’ forces.

Ron Paul’s suggestion that we revive the ‘letters of marque and reprisal’
http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2001/pr101101.htm
from our 18th century constitution sound better and better every day.

http://www.d-n-i.net/creveld/the_fate_of_the_state.htm
http://www.d-n-i.net/dni_reviews/fabius_changing_face_war.htm
http://www.d-n-i.net/

Introduction

Machines don’t fight wars. People do, and they use their minds. - Col John R. Boyd

Military action is important to the nation—it is the ground of death and life, the path of survival and destruction, so it is imperative to examine it. - Sun Tzu, The Art of War


16 posted on 07/28/2007 8:16:10 AM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Gotcha. I didn’t know that. I just wouldn’t think a launch detection is the same as being locked onto. I’m sure they can track inbounds all of all sorts. Then again the article was written by a reporter. We all know how much they think they know


17 posted on 07/28/2007 8:25:54 AM PDT by Horatio Gates
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To: rlmorel

I remember that there was a threat and they made approach and takeoff changes. Don’t recall why.


18 posted on 07/28/2007 11:08:43 AM PDT by Eagles6
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