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In the 60s, a Future Candidate Poured Her Heart Out in Letters
The New York Times ^ | July 28, 2007 | Mark Leibovich

Posted on 07/28/2007 11:42:02 AM PDT by Raebie

WASHINGTON, July 28 — They were high school friends from Park Ridge, Ill., both high achievers headed East to college. John Peavoy was a bookish film buff bound for Princeton, Hillary Rodham a driven, civic-minded Republican going off to Wellesley. They were not especially close, but they found each other smart and “interesting” and said they would try to keep in touch.

Which they did, prodigiously, exchanging dozens of letters between the late summer of 1965 and the spring of 1969. Ms. Rodham’s 30 dispatches are by turns angst-ridden and prosaic, glib and brooding, anguished and ebullient — a rare unfiltered look into the head and heart of a future first lady and would-be president. Their private expressiveness stands in sharp contrast to the ever-disciplined political persona she presents to the public now.

“Since Xmas vacation, I’ve gone through three and a half metamorphoses and am beginning to feel as though there is a smorgasbord of personalities spread before me,” Ms. Rodham wrote to Mr. Peavoy in April 1967. “So far, I’ve used alienated academic, involved pseudo-hippie, educational and social reformer and one-half of withdrawn simplicity.”

Befitting college students of any era, the letters are also self-absorbed and revelatory, missives from an unformed and vulnerable striver who had, in her own words, “not yet reconciled myself to the fate of not being the star.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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Trying to decide on whether to add a barf alert.

She is indeed a "woman of the people". God, what a pretentious sot.

1 posted on 07/28/2007 11:42:03 AM PDT by Raebie
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Trying to decide on whether to add a barf alert.

Don’t fret, the title alone gives ample warning.

2 posted on 07/28/2007 11:44:50 AM PDT by dighton
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Ms. Rodham’s letters display an evolution in sophistication, viewpoint and intellectual focus.

In nytimese that means she achieved the intellectual heights with "Power to the people! Bring it all down, man."

3 posted on 07/28/2007 11:45:19 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Raebie

Hey, wait just a minute... She has a heart?


4 posted on 07/28/2007 11:46:49 AM PDT by Patriot Hooligan ("God have mercy on my enemies because I won't." General George S. Patton)
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To: Raebie

ADD BARF ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


5 posted on 07/28/2007 11:47:58 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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Jan. 21, 2009 Headlines

"Nation's first full day with woman president, President Hillary. . ."

. . .

"Local man shocked by early-morning IRS raid. 'What did I do?' asks John Peavoy. Agents empty home. . . ."

6 posted on 07/28/2007 11:49:08 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Raebie

Like the cleavage story, this is another non-story.


7 posted on 07/28/2007 11:50:05 AM PDT by gunservative
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To: Raebie

Way more conservative than her active pre-hubby, who at her age was most likely “not inhaling” and chasing “pretty polly” all the live long day. She was a model student compared to him.


8 posted on 07/28/2007 11:50:57 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Raebie
Befitting college students of any era, the letters are also self-absorbed and revelatory, missives from an unformed and vulnerable striver

Maybe, but there is no sign this particular college student has changed since the letters were written. She is still a cold, calculating, win at any cost ego maniac.

9 posted on 07/28/2007 11:52:18 AM PDT by operation clinton cleanup (When Hill met Bill: If you're going to keep staring at me, I might as well introduce myself)
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Since Xmas vacation, I’ve gone through three and a half metamorphoses and am beginning to feel as though there is a smorgasbord of personalities spread before me,

Hmm. Think we could get her booted for Multiple Personality Disorder?

10 posted on 07/28/2007 11:53:23 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (It's never a good time to get sucked into an evil vortex.)
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To: gunservative

Personally, I think it sheds an interesting light into her inner workings.

Haughty, pretentious and arrogant as hell.


11 posted on 07/28/2007 11:53:31 AM PDT by Raebie
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To: Raebie
Haughty, pretentious and arrogant as hell.

Like we needed this article to know that.

L

12 posted on 07/28/2007 11:54:28 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to ebola.)
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To: Lurker

Sorry, I thought it was rather interesting.


13 posted on 07/28/2007 11:55:11 AM PDT by Raebie
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"Since Xmas vacation, I’ve gone through three and a half metamorphoses and am beginning to feel as though there is a smorgasbord of personalities spread before me...."

LOL!

This is some of the worst writing I've ever seen, and this from the smartest woman in the world?
14 posted on 07/28/2007 11:57:06 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: Raebie
Ms. Rodham’s letters display an evolution in sophistication, viewpoint and intellectual focus.

The New York Times is setting the meme for the dinosaur media to follow.

I'm absolutely shocked that they left out this little factoid....

...Senator Clinton speaks to wealthy taxpayers at San Francisco fund-raiser- June 29, 2004

"Many of you are well enough off that ... the tax cuts may have helped you," Clinton said, according to the Associated Press. "We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you.

"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

15 posted on 07/28/2007 11:57:18 AM PDT by smoothsailing ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction"--President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Raebie
No apology necessary. Next time I'll put in a sarcasm tag.

Personally I've become rather bored with narcissistic control freaks who have gone into national politics.

But that's just me.

L

16 posted on 07/28/2007 11:58:10 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to ebola.)
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To: Raebie

After reading those excerpts I got a clear picture of how Hillary began her life. I don’t know how much “nurture” was added to her born personality “nature,” but perhaps her parents left her alone and coddled her too much and this only added to her self-grandiosity.

She believed as a child that she might be the only person in the universe. She fantasized that a million cameras were focused on her from the heavens. She was wondering whether it was OK to care for perhaps a couple of people and yet still be the desired misanthrope.

Oh yes, this is the right person to lead this country.


17 posted on 07/28/2007 11:58:33 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Raebie
Ah, another hard-hitting New York Times no-holds-barred...love letter to HRC.

If only they'd apply the same interest to ALL candidates of ALL parties that they give to revealing our military secrets, eh?

18 posted on 07/28/2007 12:01:22 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (PRO-FRED (Use all caps--it bugs the Fred-haters ;))
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To: Raebie
Think FR should have an auto-script- something like: If Source="New York Times" and substr (Body,1,7) = "Hillary" then Do; Add ="Barf Alert!"; End.

Have to talk to JimR....

19 posted on 07/28/2007 12:01:42 PM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("Flying is like Life: Know where you are, where you're going, and how to get there." - 'Ol Dad)
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To: Raebie
A recent Rasmussen poll says that 46% of the electorate will never vote for Hillary.

It is my belief that the other mindless 54% will lap this nauseating type of stuff up. And the DBM will incessant with this type of stuff all the way to November of ‘08.

20 posted on 07/28/2007 12:02:41 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Raebie

Yuckie yuckie yuckie, she is a sicko for sure.


21 posted on 07/28/2007 12:04:36 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: smoothsailing
"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

The Saul Alinsky virus reappearing after all these years?

22 posted on 07/28/2007 12:06:34 PM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: Raebie

“Befitting college students of any era, the letters are also self-absorbed and revelatory”

I’m sorry, I never wrote the type of self-absorbed drivel in my letters to friends in college.


23 posted on 07/28/2007 12:06:46 PM PDT by Roberts
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To: litehaus
It's never gone away. So much for her "evolution".
24 posted on 07/28/2007 12:08:02 PM PDT by smoothsailing ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction"--President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Raebie
Hopefully the NYT will print some letters from Hildabeast to her Dyke girlfriends.
25 posted on 07/28/2007 12:08:50 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U

Are you implying that Hillary was a “LUG?”


26 posted on 07/28/2007 12:10:29 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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A carpet cleaner.


27 posted on 07/28/2007 12:14:16 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: Raebie

Wow, that was a trip man. Self-indulgent drivel from top to bottom. Lots of big words with little meaning. And the Times declares that these letters evidence increasing sophistication? More like increasingly sophomoric.


28 posted on 07/28/2007 12:19:04 PM PDT by keepitreal
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To: Raebie

The problem is that she sees herself at the center of attention, the font of all knowledge and wisdom. She feels destined to prove her worth by running our lives. She’s the anti-Fred who says - let the local governments take back their power because they’re closer to the people. Hillary would never want that because she doesn’t think anyone - espcially us plebes - is as good as she is. She, who as a little girl thought all the worlds cameras were on her. I suppose I felt that way once or twice but then I grew up.
I really despise her - she is like history’s worst sort of people who have sized power by whatever means. That so many can’t see through her is frightening.


29 posted on 07/28/2007 12:21:58 PM PDT by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABLER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: Raebie

compassionate misanthrope


30 posted on 07/28/2007 12:22:37 PM PDT by counterpunch ("The Democrats are the party of slavery." - Cindy Sheehan)
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To: Deo volente

Since Xmas vacation, I’ve gone through three and a half metamorphoses and am beginning to feel as though there is a smorgasbord ... spread before me


Yeah, I heard that Hill’s “freshman 10” was more like a “freshman 25”.


31 posted on 07/28/2007 12:25:07 PM PDT by MK11
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To: counterpunch

an evolution in sophistication, viewpoint and intellectual focus.

32 posted on 07/28/2007 12:28:11 PM PDT by smoothsailing ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction"--President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Raebie

These candid missives may give us some real insight into who she really is since for the last 35 years or so she’s been crafting an image for the public that’s guarded and phony. I know most of us feel we do know who she is.


33 posted on 07/28/2007 12:29:36 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Who will Liberals shift the blame to if their retreat from Iraq turns into a disaster?)
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She wrote of being a little girl and believing that she was the only person in the universe. She had a sense that if she turned around quickly, “everyone else would disappear.

I remember seeing a family photo of the Rodham family when little Hillary was.. five? I don't know.

It was suppose to be a portrait of the family but little Hillary was acting up and obviously imagined that the photo was of her and her alone as "the only person in the universe".

34 posted on 07/28/2007 12:30:53 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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“God, I feel so divorced from Park Ridge, parents, home, the entire unreality of middle class America,” she says. “This all sounds so predictable, but it’s true.”


She felt divorced from her hometown, parents, home, middle class America??? But Hillary proudly said that she grew up in a middle class family in the middle of America, and that they believed in the American dream. And that she still believes in that promise of America. Then how does she reconcile such campaign slogans with what she really felt or still feels?

of course Democrats never have to reconcile anything.

sorry for bringing it up.


35 posted on 07/28/2007 12:31:35 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
One Carmichael to another... “Burn baby, burn.”
36 posted on 07/28/2007 12:36:48 PM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: Raebie

37 posted on 07/28/2007 12:40:57 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Evolution of sophistication, viewpoint, and intellectual focus to the NYT means going from Republican to Democrat.


38 posted on 07/28/2007 12:42:12 PM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: Aria

Socialist Utopians have a god complex. They believe they know best for everyone. “The debate is over.”


39 posted on 07/28/2007 12:44:41 PM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: Raebie
One more calculated "leak" of "candid" propaganda.


40 posted on 07/28/2007 12:47:56 PM PDT by bannie (The Good Guys cannot win when they're the only ones to play by the rules.)
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Yep, she suffered from malignant narcissism back then as well. Some things never change.
41 posted on 07/28/2007 1:00:57 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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” Yep, she suffered from malignant narcissism back then as well. Some things never change.”

Agree

This reminded me of the pseudo intellectuals of the time who waxed on about irrelevant things, while the rest of the country was busy sorting reality from the BS of the 60’s


42 posted on 07/28/2007 1:25:31 PM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Raebie

“I don’t condone her actions,” Ms. Rodham declares, “but I’ll defend to expulsion her right to do as she pleases — an improvement on Voltaire.”

LOL.


43 posted on 07/28/2007 1:43:49 PM PDT by Baladas
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A definination of Hillary:

Otto Kernberg described malignant narcissism as a syndrome characterized by a narcissistic personality disorder (NPD), antisocial features, paranoid traits, and ego-syntonic aggression. Some also may find an absence of conscience, a psychological need for power, and a sense of importance (grandiosity). Pollock wrote: “The malignant narcissist is presented as pathologically grandiose, lacking in conscience and behavioral regulation with characteristic demonstrations of joyful cruelty and sadism.”[1] Kernberg claimed that malignant narcissism should be considered part of a spectrum of pathological narcissism, which saw as ranging from the Cleckley’s antisocial character (today’s psychopath) at the high end of severity, to malignant narcissism, to NPD at the low end.[2]
Kernberg wrote that malignant narcissism can be differentiated from psychopathy because of the malignant narcissists’ capacity to internalize “both aggressive and idealized superego precursors, leading to the idealization of the aggressive, sadistic features of the pathological grandiose self of these patients.”[3] According to Kernberg, the psychopaths’ paranoid stance against external influences makes them unwilling to internalize even the values of the “aggressor”, while malignant narcissists “have the capacity to admire powerful people, and can depend on sadistic and powerful but reliable parental images.” Malignant narcissists, in contrast to psychopaths, are also said to be capable of developing “some identification with other powerful idealized figures as part of a cohesive ‘gang’ ... which permits at least some loyalty and good object relations to be internalized.”
Malignant narcissism is highlighted as a key area when it comes to the study of mass, sexual, and serial murder.[4][5]Ú


44 posted on 07/28/2007 1:48:13 PM PDT by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABLER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: Raebie

“This keen professor has introduced me to Marxism...it really opened my eyes. Now I see how we can have a perfect society by adopting socialism and having smart people like me take care of the masses.”


45 posted on 07/28/2007 2:25:00 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: SlowBoat407
“Since Xmas vacation, I’ve gone through three and a half metamorphoses and am beginning to feel as though there is a smorgasbord of personalities spread before me,”

I think this was her way of saying that she was sort of outing herself.

46 posted on 07/28/2007 2:31:17 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: Aria
“That so many can’t see through her is frightening.”

I believe that almost everyone can see her for what she is. What is frightening and disheartening is that so many people don’t care. There is no doubt as to the character of her husband, and yet he is still popular. I suspect that a big part of Hillary’s appeal is to have him back in the White House. It seems that the values of the past have been abandoned. I am looking forward to next year when Hillary and Fred Thompson are presented side-by-side in a debate. The results of the election will then reveal what the collective character of this nation has become. I’m hoping that it is not as bad as I think.

47 posted on 07/28/2007 2:43:03 PM PDT by 18wheeler
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To: Raebie

The last paragraph says it all. 40 years later and she is still stealing furniture!


48 posted on 07/28/2007 4:33:48 PM PDT by blue state conservative
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To: Raebie

Is this proof she has a heart?


49 posted on 07/28/2007 4:41:05 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: Lurker
Personally I've become rather bored with narcissistic control freaks who have gone into national politics.

Narcissistic, control freaks permeate the political landscape - politics attracts them like moths to a flame.

There's also one more trait - power hungry.
50 posted on 07/28/2007 5:18:01 PM PDT by khnyny (The best minds are not in government. If they were, business would hire them away. Ronald Reagan)
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