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FBI Report: Gangs Spreading In The Military
WCBSTV.COM ^ | 28 JULY 2007 | WCBSTV.COM

Posted on 07/28/2007 8:58:54 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

Called A Threat To Law Enforcement, National Security

(CBS) -- BAGHDAD U.S. Army Sgt. Juwan Johnson got a hero's welcome while home on leave in June of 2004.

"Not only did I love my son - but my god - I liked the man he was becoming," his mother, Stephanie Cockrell, remembers.

But that trip home was the last time his family saw him alive.

When Johnson died, he wasn't in a war zone, he was in Germany.

"He had finished his term in Iraq," his mother said. "I talked to him the day before his death. He said, 'Mom, I'm in the process of discharging out. I'll be out in two weeks'."

On July 3, 2005, Sgt. Johnson went to a park not far from his base in Germany to be initiated into the 'Gangster Disciples,' a notorious Chicago-based street gang. He was beaten by eight other soldiers in a "jump-in" - an initiation rite common to many gangs.

"My son never spoke of joining a gang," Cockrell told CBS News correspondent Thalia Assuras.

Johnson died that night from his injuries. His son, Juwan Jr., was born five months later.

"I feel like I didn't prepare him enough to deal with this and I should have," his mother said. "But how would I have known there were gangs in the military? I could have had that talk with him."

Evidence of gang culture and gang activity in the military is increasing so much an FBI report calls it "a threat to law enforcement and national security." The signs are chilling: Marines in gang attire on Paris Island; paratroopers flashing gang hand signs at a nightclub near Ft. Bragg; infantrymen showing-off gang tattoos at Ft. Hood.

"It's obvious that many of these people do not give up their gang affiliations," said Hunter Glass, a retired police detective in Fayetteville, North Carolina, the home of Ft. Bragg and the 82nd Airborne. He monitors gang activity at the base and across the military.

"If we weren't in the middle of fighting a war, yes, I think the military would have a lot more control over this issue," Glass said. "But with a war going on, I think it's very difficult to do."

Gang activity clues are appearing in Iraq and Afghanistan, too. Gang graffiti is sprayed on blast walls – even on Humvees. Kilroy – the doodle made famous by U.S. soldiers in World War II – is here, but so is the star emblem of the Gangster Disciples.

The soldier who took these photos told CBS News he's been warned he's as good as dead if he ever returns to Iraq.

"We represent America – our demographics are the same – so the same problems that America contends with we often times contend with," said Colonel Gene Smith of the Army's Office of the Provost Marshal.

The U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Command reported 61 gang investigations and incidents last year, compared to just 9 in 2004. But army officials point out less than 1 percent of all its criminal investigations are gang related.

"We must remember that there are a million people in the army community," Smith said, "And these small numbers are not reflective of a tremendous, pervasive, rampant problem."

The rise in gang activity coincides with the increase in recruits with records. Since 2003, 125,000 recruits with criminal histories have been granted what are known as "moral waivers" for felonies including robbery and assault.

A hidden-camera investigation by CBS Denver station KCNC found one military recruiter was quick to offer the waiver option even when asked, "Does it matter that i was in a gang or anything?" That is well within military regulations.

"You may have had some gang activity in your past and everything ... OK ... but that in itself does not disqualify...," the recruiter said.

Military regulations disqualify members of hate groups from enlisting, but there is no specific ban on members of street gangs. Sgt. Juwan Johnson's family says such a prohibition is long overdue.

"Just maybe we can save someone else's child ... somebody else's husband ... somebody else's father," his mother said. "I would have loved to have seen him with his child, I really would have -- that part is hard, that part is hard."

This month a military court sentenced two of Juwan Johnson's attackers to prison.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: anewdarkages; beginningofempire; deathofourrepublic; endofrepublic; gangs; military
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1 posted on 07/28/2007 8:58:55 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Condolences to Mrs. Johnson on her grief....but I personally am glad another gang-banger will not be coming back to America.
2 posted on 07/28/2007 9:01:58 PM PDT by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Killed by stupidity. Thin the herd.


3 posted on 07/28/2007 9:02:08 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I don’t know of any white kids in gangs. Is this problem in the military race related?


4 posted on 07/28/2007 9:02:46 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Sorry,lady, you set him up when you named him “Juwan”. Just another victim of rapcrap!


5 posted on 07/28/2007 9:03:08 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

You know what, this has been going on for a long time. I remember dip-s$$ts that couldn’t leave it behind, of thought it would be cool to be in a gang when I was in 15 years ago.


6 posted on 07/28/2007 9:05:50 PM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: SatinDoll

There’s plenty of white kids in gangs I’ve seen em.


7 posted on 07/28/2007 9:12:40 PM PDT by festus (I'm a fRedneck and proud of it.)
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To: SatinDoll; Extremely Extreme Extremist
I don’t know of any white kids in gangs. Is this problem in the military race related?

This gang activity has been going on for years in the military and yes it's race related, that is it's mostly young black men from the inner city.

8 posted on 07/28/2007 9:16:05 PM PDT by Doofer (Fred Dalton Thompson For President)
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To: SatinDoll
I don’t know of any white kids in gangs.

Oh yeah, they're in the gangs. It's also surprising how many are associated with historically black street gangs like the Crips

9 posted on 07/28/2007 9:16:11 PM PDT by Horatio Gates (8/7/07 - It's salmon week on the Horatio Gates channel.)
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To: Doofer

I actually live in the Ramstein area and the Sgt Johnson story has been a major episode around here. All of the guys involved (both AF and Army) were from this region. Strangely enough, they needed some type of companionship that had to be gang-related. Even the females associated with this gang...were of the same variety...they needed an atmosphere of a gang to feel protected and secure. Most people I know...can’t understand this necessity.

The fascinating part of the Sgt Johnson story...is that the gang leader...just up and disappeared. Yep...no one knows nothing. The guy was former military but was a civilian at the time of the hazing. They can’t show that he returned to the states via any airline. The military really doesn’t want to even have this guys name mentioned much because they know they can’t even try the guy if they find him...the Germans can...but apparently have very little interest in this episode. The general feeling is that he is still in Germany...living with a fresh new gang down in the Stuttgart or Wiesbaden area. The best bet here...he will triple up the hazing process and eventually have another guy killed just as well.


10 posted on 07/28/2007 9:32:32 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist


http://stripes.com/07/feb07/gangs/gangs3.html
11 posted on 07/28/2007 9:33:10 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: SatinDoll
I don’t know of any white kids in gangs.

Yes, I think they are and have have been. For example, from what I have read, I believe, in the 60's and 70's, they were called "hoods."

12 posted on 07/28/2007 9:35:15 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

This mother raised a son who was honorable enough to fight for his country in Iraq. Maybe he was into some wrong things, but she obviously instilled some values in him. His name has nothing to do with it. I know a child named Juwan who is one of the best kids I have ever met.


13 posted on 07/28/2007 9:59:28 PM PDT by ga medic
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic

We used the term “hood” circa 1960 when I was in Junior High in suburban NJ to indicate the type of kid such as “the Fonz” or a “Greaser”, as seen on TV. ( The term “Greaser” was unknown to me until the movie of that name. ) Certainly this is the gang-banger type, but we didn’t associate it with organized gang activity. It was a social classification to us.

I actually remember my sister using the term at the dinner table, saying so-and-so was a “hood”, and my father objecting that a “hood” was a gangster or mobster. This was meaning in the 30s and 40s, and is still used, I think.


14 posted on 07/28/2007 10:00:10 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
What!? You mean they aren’t all Tuskegee Airmen !?
15 posted on 07/28/2007 10:10:19 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Gangs also send members to business schools and the police academies...
16 posted on 07/28/2007 10:11:20 PM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: ga medic

Maybe he just couldn’t learn to flip burgers. The damned fool wasn’t smart enough to stay away from the gang crap, and that is for sure. I doubt that fighting for the country, as an ideal, ever entered Juwan’s mind.


17 posted on 07/28/2007 10:20:18 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: dr_lew
We shouldn’t even use the word “gang” it should be called (at least understood) what it is - an organized crime syndicate.
18 posted on 07/28/2007 10:21:46 PM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: SatinDoll

Yes.


19 posted on 07/28/2007 10:27:05 PM PDT by bpjam (Harry Reid doesn't represent me. I'm an American!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The kid did something good with his life at least for a couple of years. And getting into the military may be the only way out of gangs for many of these men in dangerous neighborhoods. The ability of kids who are otherwise good to be able to get out of town, get an education and get exposed to different people probably saves way, way, way more lives than any which are lost by former servicemen to join gangs back in the ghetto or barrio.


20 posted on 07/28/2007 10:29:31 PM PDT by bpjam (Harry Reid doesn't represent me. I'm an American!)
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To: Turbo Pig

I remember dip-s$$ts that couldn’t leave it behind, of thought it would be cool to be in a gang when I was in 15 years ago.<<<<<<

In the early 90’s, especially during the first Gulf War, there were Crips and Bloods showing up in the military displaying colors, graffiti, etc. It is indeed a severe threat to our security.


21 posted on 07/28/2007 10:45:19 PM PDT by Mjaye (Some folks close their mouth only long enough to change feet.)
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To: bpjam
"And getting into the military may be the only way out of gangs for many of these men in dangerous neighborhoods."

If it's an issue of location, move.
If it's an issue of money, work.
If it's an issue of bad values, go to church.
If it's an issue of bad economic policies, stop votin' democrat!

22 posted on 07/28/2007 10:52:02 PM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: dr_lew
Certainly this is the gang-banger type, but we didn't associate it with organized gang activity.

Okay, I think I see.

You mean a "hood" is not someone like the late ÂŽeljko Ražnatović;. You call this person Arkan.

23 posted on 07/28/2007 10:52:57 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic

Sorry! Can’t follow that! The truth is we were insulated and naive in those days. I used to read stories about JD’s, and how violent and dangerous they were, and these frankly scared me. As a pubescent youth, I had the vague notion that I was destined to metamorphose into one of these dangerous creatures, and it was a prospect I did not look forward to. Those among us we knew as “hoods” were just as naive as I was, but had the opposite reaction.


24 posted on 07/28/2007 11:02:55 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

What?...there’s not enough to do???


25 posted on 07/28/2007 11:14:54 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Sounds like someones not getting enough KP duty....You got time to join a gang?....


26 posted on 07/28/2007 11:16:42 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: dr_lew
Sorry! Can’t follow that!...

I think I understood what you have written in terms of "hoods."

I just thought you would have known who Arkan was...e.g. the comparisons to the gansters in the 30' and 40's that you mentioned (above).

27 posted on 07/28/2007 11:42:33 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The rise in gang activity coincides with the increase in recruits with records. Since 2003, 125,000 recruits with criminal histories have been granted what are known as "moral waivers" for felonies including robbery and assault.

A hidden-camera investigation by CBS Denver station KCNC found one military recruiter was quick to offer the waiver option even when asked, "Does it matter that i was in a gang or anything?" That is well within military regulations.

"You may have had some gang activity in your past and everything ... OK ... but that in itself does not disqualify...," the recruiter said.


This has to be embellished up by the media, there's no way our standards have dropped this low.
28 posted on 07/29/2007 12:03:00 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

“Sounds like someones not getting enough KP duty....You got time to join a gang?....”

I served in the US Army in Germany in 1969-1970, and we did NOT do KP back then. Civilians did it, Turks, Portugese, etc. Germans called them “guest-workers”...some the forerunners of their wonderful muslim community today.

I doubt the average enlisted American GI stationed in Germany faces KP duty these days, either.


29 posted on 07/29/2007 12:17:28 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

BTTT


30 posted on 07/29/2007 6:46:16 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; All; Admin Moderator
Those of you who have posted hateful or racist things about this man should be ashamed of yourselves.

Regardless of the circumstances regarding his death, as well as "his name", he was an American soldier who served, as far as we know, with honor, which is more than a lot of American citizens are willing to do.

I for one am grateful for his service, and am sorry for him and his family that he is dead.

When a soldier dies, don't say anything at all if you can only be hateful.

The man was an American soldier, and he did his part to keep all of you safe for a while longer. You have no idea how his future might have unfolded.

Shame on you. Any other thread about a dead soldier, some of you would NEVER have said the things you said. But because this kid happened to be black, was named Juwan, and made a mistake that ended up getting him killed, you are allowed to completely discount his service and badmouth him.

Makes me ill.

31 posted on 07/29/2007 8:09:31 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: taxed2death

That’s a sick comment.


32 posted on 07/29/2007 8:19:27 AM PDT by EveningStar
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This thread is a disgrace.


33 posted on 07/29/2007 8:35:05 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: teenyelliott

He voluntarily got jumped into what he knew was a violent gang and got killed in the hazing. He wanted to be a member of a criminal organization. I don’t think it’s hateful or racist to point that out.


34 posted on 07/29/2007 8:57:02 AM PDT by ObadiahLynch
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To: ObadiahLynch
I didn't say those facts were hateful or racist.

I simply think that this is a case of a dead American soldier, and regardless of the circumstances of his death his service is what it is, and people should leave it at that.

FreeRepublic is notorious for supporting our troops. Any comments, and there are several on this thread, that are crappy should be deleted, IMO.

35 posted on 07/29/2007 9:02:50 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: teenyelliott

I dunno. When the circumstances of someone’s death are honorable and service related, that’s way different than when you happen to be in the service but get killed engaging in criminal activity.


36 posted on 07/29/2007 9:38:55 AM PDT by ObadiahLynch
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To: festus

How long were you in the joint?


37 posted on 07/29/2007 9:44:35 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: pepsionice

We had things like that when I was in the Army, where people spent all their time together. We called them ‘Squads’.

But I guess that idea’s too old fashioned for the “Army of One”.


38 posted on 07/29/2007 10:02:25 AM PDT by Mountain Troll
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To: ObadiahLynch
Simply being in a gang is not a crime. One could assume that he would go on to participate in criminal activity, but he didn't. He died.

He was finished serving. The fact that he was not killed while serving has no bearing on whether or not his memory as a soldier should be tarnished.

I would imagine lots of soldiers have died after serving under questionable circumstances. It does not make their service less valuable.

As they said in the article, the military is simply a cross section of Americans, and by no means does that make all soldiers saints.

I simply object to bad mouthing an American soldier who served his country. That's all.

39 posted on 07/29/2007 10:15:21 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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“I simply object to bad mouthing an American soldier who served his country. That’s all.”

Fair enough, I can respect that.


40 posted on 07/29/2007 10:26:15 AM PDT by ObadiahLynch
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To: teenyelliott

I didn’t say anything, I just posted the article.


41 posted on 07/29/2007 10:58:32 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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**Simply being in a gang is not a crime. One could assume that he would go on to participate in criminal activity, but he didn’t. He died.**

It should be a crime, if I belonged to an organization of criminals I think I should be punished.

“He had finished his term in Iraq,” his mother said. “I talked to him the day before his death. He said, ‘Mom, I’m in the process of discharging out. I’ll be out in two weeks’.”

I want you to really think about that, this guy was being discharged in two weeks. Why join a gang in Germany?


42 posted on 07/29/2007 11:06:29 AM PDT by Swiss
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
How do they get into the Armed Services of the USA. The compentory GANG is tantamount to a TERRIST CELL.
43 posted on 07/29/2007 11:11:57 AM PDT by CHEE
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To: Swiss

“...if I belonged to an organization of criminals I think I should be punished.”

okay...just wanted to see that posted again...think before you type...


44 posted on 07/29/2007 11:14:21 AM PDT by dakine
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The signs are chilling: Marines in gang attire on Paris Island

Aside from the fact that the report doesn't even spell "Parris Island" correctly, this is total horse manure.

45 posted on 07/29/2007 11:15:47 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Slightly off-topic: They need to start prosecuting gang members under RICO and send them to a prison located far, far away from home, isolated from other inmates and unable to communicate with anyone unless it's in writing through an attorney. I don't give a damn if they go crazy for lack of human interaction. They don't need interaction - they're only technically human.

This business of gang members continuing their enterprises from prison has got to be shut down.

46 posted on 07/29/2007 11:16:34 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: dakine

I am pretty dense, explain it to me.


47 posted on 07/29/2007 11:17:09 AM PDT by Swiss
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To: EveningStar; taxed2death
That’s a sick comment

That's an accurate comment.

48 posted on 07/29/2007 11:18:16 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Turbo Pig

“You know what, this has been going on for a long time. I remember dip-s$$ts that couldn’t leave it behind, of thought it would be cool to be in a gang when I was in 15 years ago.”

We had very similar trash in the Corps when I first joined. We called them Cat 4’s back then. I was hoping we were done with that friggin riff raff when the Corps finally got rid of them.

I guess we didn’t learn.


49 posted on 07/29/2007 11:22:02 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Famously frisky)
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To: Swiss
It should be a crime, if I belonged to an organization of criminals

That's a tough one. First is the first amendment "freedom of association" thing. You can associate with whomever you want and that's not a crime. If you commit a crime or conspire to, well that can be punished for sure.

Second is, what constitutes membership? I doubt these people keep rosters.

50 posted on 07/29/2007 11:23:25 AM PDT by BearCub
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