Posted on 07/29/2007 4:49:20 PM PDT by Flavius
AT THE Army College in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, Major Daniel Morgan is studying the lessons for Iraq of the Soviets’ chaotic exit from Afghanistan in the late 1980s. The roads were choked with tanks and heavy weaponry, making the demoralised soldiers easy prey for guerillas.
“The Soviet Army actually had to fight out of certain areas,” said Morgan, who has served twice in Iraq.
There is no easy exit from Iraq, but defence secretary Robert Gates has admitted for the first time that the Pentagon is poring over the options. Under pressure from Hillary Clinton, the senator for New York, defence officials are to give a “closed door” briefing to the Senate Armed Services Committee this week about US troop withdrawals.
“You may rest assured,” Gates wrote to Clinton, “that such planning is indeed taking place with my active involvement.”
(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...
liberal holy grail
every news story every paper every time
Ahhh, there’s nothing quite like making plans to lose!
Guess we FReepers should find the relevant letters and post them;)
Well if this pullout happens. The blood is on the hands of the Democratic party. Although, I doubt most Americans will feel this way. They will spin it, blame GW or whatever. I for one am sick and tired of the party of treason.
Congress Critter ping!
Just so long as “Senator” Clinton explains what happens in Iraq, after our troops leave.
(waiting...)
If our leadership doesn’t take care of business in Iran to finish the War, we should each probably plan ahead for personal security at home.
Look how this author makes it seem the secdef is groveling before her.
they are acting like no nation in history of the world occupied an land mass
the idiocy all around is mesmerizing
however the only people i care about are the front line US troops
everyone else can pound sand
that will be outlawed as hate crime
how dare you protect yourself citizen
Yeah, just stupid.
Liberals will attempt to do the same thing to Iraq that they did to Viet Nam. They are directly responsible for the mass slaughter after we pulled out of Viet Nam. They have learned nothing from history.
Semper Fi’
Jarhead
This is nothing but a chance for the DBM to splash on the front page tomarrow
GATES CALLS FOR PULL-OUT PLAN...
This is sick and the dems will pounce...
Poor liberal surrendercrats and jihadist. Gates is merely playing psychological operations against them. This is just a head fake to get the anti-Americans all worked up over an apparant American defeat, but Gates knows what every other adult in Washington knows: The Surge is Working.
When the job is done successfully and the next theater of operations opens up in Iran, there’ll be much gnashing of teeth by Team Al Queda and their dainty Democrat cheerleaders.
No one will blame Congress.
She should become president right about the time for the US to pull out from Iraq if her plans bear fruit..............ask HER how SHE is going to do it !
She keeps telling the dumbass masses supporting her she is gonna do it so put the problem in her arena.
How bout it clintonistas....how are YOU going to end the Iraq War ?
Gates is a PC wuss---Fire Gates, now!
Consider the source...besides, these plans are always on the drawing board...SOP...folks
consider the source here....UK leftie lib rag.
Yes, but they don't announce it in a public love letter to a traitorous (progressive) Marxist.
I am afraid the coming responsibility lies far closer to home than some would like, and cannot all be pushed off onto nefarious liberals.
Exactly right - Here is another example of the MSM trying to spin / lie to the American public ....By spinning "the news" in a manner that looks negative -
SecDef Gates played this very weak Vs Senator Clinton. He should have told her to pound sand publicly (and privately told her with clearance she could see the variety of contingency plans that are constantly changing).
Gates is a total wimp. Why Bush appointed him is beyond reason.
" Under pressure from Hillary Clinton, the senator for New York, defence officials are to give a “closed door” briefing to the Senate Armed Services Committee this week about US troop withdrawals"
This briefing is going to get leaked all over by DBM this week with the point being that the pentagon is planning a withdrawl from Iraq... Game...
If a general wrote to Hillary! about this, I hope he wrote this: "If your insane ideas succeed in Congress, yes, we have plans to get American soldiers with a minimum number of casualties as a result of your ideas." But if he did, the NY Times would never report that honestly.
Congressman Billybob
The media will eat this up...
Works for me...now to convince the Democratic party and the MSM...That should be easy eh?
That's why Gates gotta go.
Exactly. BUT, why is the Pentagon giving her any special the time of day?
The US military plans for many possible turns of events.
For instance, I heard they have a plan for global cooling; and for global warming.
The plan for global cooling assumes China would attack Russia, for natural gass, to keep warm.
We have more than enough firepower on our side to counter this tactic. Talk Radio and us folks on the Internet won't let the moldy old media (or moldia™, as I like to call them) get away with it.
Sure, the dems are trying to re-live their glory days of Vietnam. They think they've got what it takes to turn Iraq into Vietnam Part Deux. But they've got a severe blind spot when it comes to how much has changed between Vietnam and Iraq. The most important change is that their lapdog media no longer has a monopoly on what Americans are allowed to hear. Yup, we may suffer the leaks from this meeting, but we will quickly answer it. I wouldn't be surprised if Rush and Hugh are already working on the answer right now.
Texas A&M boys don't bow down before butch megalomanic divas who want to see US defense ripped to shreds.
I think this is just some foreign journalist sucking up to Hillary.
Texas A&M boys don't bow down before butch megalomanic divas who want to see US defense ripped to shreds.
I think this is just some foreign journalist sucking up to Hillary.
More liberal projection by the Times.
If this happens within no longer that 6 months, probably much less actually, there will be plenty of blood flowing in the United States.
The muslims will follow the troops over here[ the United States] and along with their moles already in place here begin blowing things up.
Sarah Baxter - who writes of her activism
on anti-nuclear movement of the 1980s
she was Political Editor of The New Statesman around 15 years ago
Probably angling for a spot on Hillary’s staff.
How many do you think would sign. Somebody pass this on to the President and see if there are any takers.
We already won.
There is no surrender.
It is time to take off the training wheels and cut the welfare payments.
The Iraqi's can handle it or they would not go on "Vacation".
If the order to withdrawal was given tomorrow, it would take 20 months to implement.
So we are stuck until 2011 at the earliest, because w is not going to pull out.
Ask yourself why we didn't end sanctuary in Iran and Syria before this?
Why is Pakistan getting a pass?
It is the policy that is flawed.
Baghdad should have been glass on 9-12
I believe that every Democrat and Socialist and a few Republicans would sign it.
Of course the Pentagon plans for all of this...and Hillary knew that when she “demanded” it. It was all in order to get it on the front page (so that our enemies see it and we can lose...that’s all they want is for us to lose before she can win.)
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