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UK wanted US to rule out Bin Laden torture (Londonistan alert)
The Gaurdian ^ | 07/27/07 | Richard Norton-Taylor

Posted on 07/29/2007 8:10:01 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative

Ministers insisted that British secret agents would only be allowed to pass intelligence to the CIA to help it capture Osama bin Laden if the agency promised he would not be tortured, it has emerged.

MI6 believed it was close to finding the al-Qaida leader in Afghanistan in 1998, and again the next year. The plan was for MI6 to hand the CIA vital information about Bin Laden. Ministers including Robin Cook, the then foreign secretary, gave their approval on condition that the CIA gave assurances he would be treated humanely. The plot is revealed in a 75-page report by parliament's intelligence and security committee on rendition, the practice of flying detainees to places where they may be tortured.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 1998; 1999; binladen; bleedingheartattack; cia; elvisbinladen; manhunt; mi6; obl; renditions; robincook
Shameful. Absolutely shameful. British intelligence had info that (who knows?) could've saved thousands of lives, and they sat on it because they were afraid that we'd be too rough on bin Laden???
1 posted on 07/29/2007 8:10:07 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

If we kill him, we won’t have to torture him.


2 posted on 07/29/2007 8:14:40 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Welcome to FR, btw.


3 posted on 07/29/2007 8:15:31 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

We absolutely promise.... There will be no panties on the head.


4 posted on 07/29/2007 8:24:18 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Some folks have posted for years before earning an Elvis. Congratulations on being the newest poster to have ever been awarded this esteemed honor.

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5 posted on 07/29/2007 8:25:21 PM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: ASA Vet

hmmmm, I’ve lurked for a little while before registering/posting, and I’ve never seen that...


6 posted on 07/29/2007 8:26:49 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

1998? That was clinton’s watch. He didn’t want bin Ladin turned over to him.


7 posted on 07/29/2007 8:27:19 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
Probably true. Notice how the article implies that Bush had something to do with this - seems like the report criticizes the Bush administration and separately talks about this episode, but to read this article, seems like the Guardian folks are intentionally trying to connect them....
8 posted on 07/29/2007 8:30:07 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

click on keyword “elvisbinladen” you’ll see a few (hundred.)


9 posted on 07/29/2007 8:31:37 PM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

no wonder the british empire is no more.


10 posted on 07/29/2007 8:34:50 PM PDT by ken21 ( b 4 fred.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Interesting that there are people in the UK government concerned for the bodily integrity of the #1 terrorist.

May be time to do some torturing ~ OF THEM!!!

11 posted on 07/29/2007 8:35:59 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

If anyone cares to read the actual report:
http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/intelligence/

there is also the Government’s response document (12 pages).


12 posted on 07/29/2007 8:40:18 PM PDT by james500
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Damned right, Pip!

page 53:
“What the rendition programme has shown is that in what it refers to as “the war on terror” the U.S. will take whatever action it deems necessary, within U.S. law, to protect its national security from those it considers to pose a serious threat. Although the U.S. may take note of UK protests and concerns, this does not appear materially to affect its strategy on rendition.”


13 posted on 07/29/2007 9:13:38 PM PDT by james500
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Welcome to the club.

I remembered with some unease, the role of Robin Cook at the time of the intervention in Kosovo. We had the incessant barrage of charges of "ethic cleansing". The dead pan claim of 100,000 unmarked graves, was parroted. A fat lot Cook cared about civilian deaths. So far so good. The Serbs were shown little mercy.

He had resigned his ministerial post,because he refused to back the Tony Blair commitment to the invasion of Iraq. One can draw a sad conclusion. He sought to kow tow to Islam. There are many fools in that country to believe they can buy some sort of peace. None of 'em have read and digested their country's past history.

A quick check by old friend Wikipedia tells us that Cook (1946-2005) was climbing a Scottish mountain and took a heart attack at age 59 years.

14 posted on 07/29/2007 9:33:20 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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I call bull sh$t.
The whole article referes to 99; 98 and 96.

what's wrong with this picture ?

The report criticises the Bush administration's approval of practices which would be illegal if carried out by British agents. It shows that in 1998, the year Bin Laden was indicted in the US, Britain insisted that the policy of treating prisoners humanely should include him. But the CIA never gave the assurances.
15 posted on 07/29/2007 9:51:45 PM PDT by stylin19a (Don't buy a putter until you have had a chance to throw it.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Oh, for the sake of pete ... what kind of wuss do they have running that place? Had he been there in 1775, we’d have had the whole shebang by 1777.


16 posted on 07/29/2007 10:26:42 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Brian J. Marotta, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub, (1948-2007) Rest In Peace, our FRiend)
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To: ken21

‘no wonder the british empire is no more.’

And it’s no wonder the US never had an empire if it’s citizens believe everything they read in the rabidly left-wing Guardian.


17 posted on 07/30/2007 12:43:47 AM PDT by britemp
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To: stylin19a
The report criticises the Bush administration's approval of practices which would be illegal if carried out by British agents. It shows that in 1998, the year Bin Laden was indicted in the US, Britain insisted that the policy of treating prisoners humanely should include him. But the CIA never gave the assurances.

So really they were concerned about the Clinton admin torturing Bin Laden...and it was the Clinton admin that refused to rule out torture.

18 posted on 07/30/2007 12:52:27 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: ken21

The British Empire is no more? Newsflash! This is old news. As a Brit I’m ashamed of the British Empire yet Americans repeatedly fire this fact at us Brits like it’s a criticism. So we gave all the people we invaded and made our slaves their land back, and this is a BAD thing? Doesn’t sound very pro-freedom to me! Didn’t Hitler do a very similar thing?


19 posted on 07/30/2007 6:42:37 AM PDT by jonhall
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To: Brilliant

But for bin Laden, I like the idea of panties on the head, with the crotch area rubbed with fresh pork ribs. Sorry, that’s the way my mind works.


20 posted on 07/30/2007 6:47:54 AM PDT by supremedoctrine ("Happiness makes up in height for what it lacks in length"----Robert Frost)
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To: Brilliant

But for bin Laden, I like the idea of panties on the head, with the crotch area rubbed with fresh pork ribs. Sorry, that’s the way my mind works.


21 posted on 07/30/2007 6:48:01 AM PDT by supremedoctrine ("Happiness makes up in height for what it lacks in length"----Robert Frost)
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