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Fred Thompson, Neocon
The Nation ^ | August 13, 2007 Issue | David Corn

Posted on 07/31/2007 3:40:13 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The neoconservatives are not riding high these days. The Iraq War--their number-one cause--is a failure, and the public has turned on the war, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, their top man in the Administration. Meanwhile, the so-called foreign policy realists appear to have the upper hand against the Administration's dwindling neocon cell in many internal policy squabbles. But the neocons are faring rather well when it comes to the presidential race. The leading GOP contenders are all die-hard fans of the war. And the newest star in the show--Fred Thompson, the former Republican senator from Tennessee, onetime lobbyist and TV actor who has all but officially announced his candidacy--might be the most neoconnish of all.

With gusto, Thompson embraced the second-favorite crusade of the neocons: Scooter Libby. For them, Libby has been a martyr of near-religious significance. Thompson, a prominent member of the Libby defense fund, called for Bush to pardon the former Cheney chief of staff. While doing so, Thompson repeatedly misstated core facts of the CIA leak case. Deriding special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, Thompson, who played a prosecutor on Law & Order, insisted that Valerie Plame Wilson was not covered by the Intelligence Identities Protection Act--though indeed she was. Following the neocon tradition of accusing the CIA of betraying national security interests, Thompson essentially charged that the agency and the Justice Department had conspired to set Libby up. He claimed that the CIA sent a known Democratic partisan--former Ambassador Joseph Wilson--to Niger and that upon his return Wilson "blasted" the Bush Administration. (Wilson, a career diplomat, was no partisan at the time of his 2002 trip, and he did not "blast" the Administration until nearly a year and a half after his mission.) No other GOP candidate was as true to the Libby cause as Thompson, who heartily applauded Bush's commutation of Libby's prison sentence.

In spirit, Thompson was a member of the Libby Lobby before it even existed--as a fierce advocate for a US invasion of Iraq. In October 2002, during his last months as a senator, Thompson voted for the measure authorizing the use of force. At the time, he was pitching the familiar argument: Saddam Hussein was packing WMDs, about to get nukes and in cahoots with Al Qaeda. He declared on CNN, "I don't want to get in too deeply, in terms of what the CIA has told the intelligence community, but...Director Tenet pointed out in great detail the extent to which Saddam had moved toward cooperation with Al Qaeda." Actually, Tenet had not done that. The CIA chief had publicly referred to "reporting of senior level contacts" between Al Qaeda and Baghdad without providing details (the CIA's analysts determined there was no definitive evidence linking Saddam and Osama bin Laden operationally). But for the neocons, the purported Al Qaeda connection was an article of faith, and Thompson was pushing this holy writ, hinting that he (as an intelligence committee member) knew more than he could openly say. Weeks ago, Thompson said that before the invasion the Administration had merely claimed that "there was clearly contact and a relationship [between Al Qaeda and Saddam's regime], but no one knew exactly what it meant." That was not how he depicted it in 2002.

After leaving the Senate in early 2003, Thompson did his bit for the war effort. He filmed an ad for a conservative group that supported the coming invasion. In it he stood before an American flag and drawled, "When people ask, What has Saddam done to us? I ask, What had the 9/11 hijackers done to us before 9/11?" When UN inspectors found no evidence that Saddam was developing nuclear weapons, Thompson pooh-poohed their work. He argued, like a neocon, that the United States, as the lone superpower, had to be willing to use force beyond immediate self-defense to protect itself and its interests.

Thompson has other neocon tics. Earlier this year, after the bipartisan Iraq Study Group had recommended a diplomatic initiative that would include attempts to negotiate with Iran and Syria, he cheered Bush for not doing so. He has blasted the UN and bashed France. ("We're...hopeful that, eventually, our ostrich-headed allies will realize there's a world war going on out there, and they need to pick a side.") He has hailed progress in Iraq. ("In Iraq, the healthcare and education statistics are even better. There are, of course, still many areas of life that need to improve...but we're moving in the right direction.")

Thompson has mostly been a loyal conservative, though as a senator he peeved right-wingers by supporting campaign finance reform and by voting for only one of the two impeachment counts against Bill Clinton. These days, he wants to extend Bush's tax cuts for the well-to-do. He calls for tort "reform." He favors the death penalty. He says he's opposed to abortion rights (although in 1991 he helped lobby for an abortion rights outfit and declared in 1994 he was opposed to criminalizing abortion), and he recently mocked those concerned about global warming.

Neocons have many good choices among GOP presidential wannabes. Senator John McCain has hung tight on the war. Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney has outdone Cheney by calling for doubling the size of the Guantánamo prison. And former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani has loaded his campaign with pro-Israel hawks, including godfather of the neocons Norman Podhoretz, who advocates attacking Iran. But Thompson has a strong claim on the neoconservative heart. If he ends up in the White House, the neocons will rise again.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Tennessee; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2008; deathpenalty; electionpresident; elections; fredthompson; globalwarming; gop; iran; iraq; neocons; neoconservatives; republicans; rfr; runfredrun; scooterlibby; terrorism; thenation; whitehouse; wot
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How many lies can one man put on one page?
1 posted on 07/31/2007 3:40:15 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He's just getting warmed up. Wait until Fred declares.

I think they are scared.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

2 posted on 07/31/2007 3:42:26 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The Great CornHolio" strikes again.


3 posted on 07/31/2007 3:43:29 AM PDT by xcamel ("It's Talk Thompson Time!" >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Iraq War--their number-one cause--is a failure, and the public has turned on the war.

Hurry, David, hurry, before we win this thing. I will be pleased to apply the egg to your face myself.

4 posted on 07/31/2007 3:44:02 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This could have easily been written in a Iranian newspaper.


5 posted on 07/31/2007 3:44:32 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

David Corn would scare a hyena off a gut heap.


6 posted on 07/31/2007 3:44:55 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Neo-con is the latest undefined term that liberals love to try to slime conservatives with. All it means is you support Isreal and our war on terror. Total BS lable that meant something completely different prior to this.


7 posted on 07/31/2007 3:45:43 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: xcamel

Almost everything Corn “accuses” Fred of is something I hope that Fred actually is for or did! I like Mitt Romney’s idea of doubling the size of Guantánamo Bay prison.


8 posted on 07/31/2007 3:46:15 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wait, why the hatred for Thompson amongst leftist and defeatists? Didnt Rasmussen just recently publish a poll showing even pretty boy Edwards soundly defeating Thompson? Can’t we beleive what we read with these people???


9 posted on 07/31/2007 3:48:17 AM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Rest of the Story, My bad that this didnt print with the first part.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Iraq War--their number-one cause--is a failure, and the public has turned on the war

This screed, underneath the snorting and frothing, has a sad, nostalgic air, doesn't it?—as the reports come filtering back, even from Brookings, that the Surge is working, and public support here is actually gaining.

He writes like a man sipping the last glass from a fine bottle of red that he really enjoyed.

10 posted on 07/31/2007 3:49:10 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Bahbah

I imagine he wasn’t happy reading the NY Times yesterday.


11 posted on 07/31/2007 3:49:36 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I can hear Corn in his lispy little voice reading this aloud. Moonbat extraordinaire!
12 posted on 07/31/2007 3:51:37 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Soon to be Fredbacker1)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Corn wouldn’t know a neocon if it bit him in the ass. Fred has come out against many of the neocons biggest ideas. neocons are big government (but for conservative ends) guys and Fred is a small government guy BIG TIME.


13 posted on 07/31/2007 3:52:11 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Bulldawg Fan
Anyone that believes that Pink Sapphire John Edwards could beat Fred Thompson in a general election needs a visit from the duty nurse and a prefrontal lobotomy.
14 posted on 07/31/2007 3:53:41 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Whats a NeoCon?


15 posted on 07/31/2007 3:56:00 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: agere_contra
Whatever an elitist “progressive” columnist like David Corn says it is, apparently.
16 posted on 07/31/2007 3:58:22 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: mainepatsfan
I imagine he wasn’t happy reading the NY Times yesterday.

I am having a good chuckle just visualizing that.

17 posted on 07/31/2007 4:01:55 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: agere_contra

One of the words leftists use to show their contempt for a person.


18 posted on 07/31/2007 4:05:45 AM PDT by listenhillary (¿Qué parter DE "illegal" ousted no entente?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
With korn... every word is a calculated lie. He has no soul... it is on deposit with Banko de Hell!

LLS

19 posted on 07/31/2007 4:09:33 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We need a new place that will hold more dims along with their brethren... muzzies.

LLS

20 posted on 07/31/2007 4:11:21 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

“Can’t we beleive what we read with these people???”

That’s be a big negatory goodbuddy...

LLS


21 posted on 07/31/2007 4:12:56 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This country can not have too many Neocons! JMHO


22 posted on 07/31/2007 4:14:35 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: agere_contra

“Whats a NeoCon?”

Someone in a Rolling Stones song.

LLS


23 posted on 07/31/2007 4:14:41 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So, Corn is calling Fred a “JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO” ?


24 posted on 07/31/2007 4:15:55 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Neoconservatism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wonder who Corn is trying to fool?


25 posted on 07/31/2007 4:18:00 AM PDT by buck61
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To: SamuraiScot
He writes like a man sipping the last glass from a fine bottle of red that he really enjoyed.

He's red... thru and thru.


27 posted on 07/31/2007 4:37:17 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: agere_contra

In terms of Thompson, explained quite well here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1808671/posts


28 posted on 07/31/2007 4:42:12 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Iraq War--their number-one cause--is a failure

Many thanks to the author for putting this in the first sentences. It alerted me that I needn't waste my time reading anything else he writes.

29 posted on 07/31/2007 4:43:47 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (PUT AMERICA AHEAD --- VOTE FOR FRED!!.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What comes out of a donkey’s butt?

Corn! Corn! Corn!


30 posted on 07/31/2007 4:44:48 AM PDT by Josh Painter ( "This is our home and we get to decide who gets to come into our home." - Fred)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Iraq War--their number-one cause--is a failure, and the public has turned on the war

Guess he didn't get the memo.

31 posted on 07/31/2007 4:44:52 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Kimberly GG

Well here you are, showing up on Fred threads to support the position of......David Corn.

Do you even realize how ridiculous you appear?


32 posted on 07/31/2007 4:46:34 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (PUT AMERICA AHEAD --- VOTE FOR FRED!!.)
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To: Always Right
Neo-con is the latest undefined term that liberals love to try to slime conservatives with.

They're not "liberals." Thomas Jefferson and James Madison were "Liberals." (Ask Thomas Sowell, if you don't believe me.)

David Corn is a "Neo-prog."

33 posted on 07/31/2007 4:47:51 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hillary supports the war. The MSM want her to be President (really they want Bill back) so I guess thats why I read some stories recently how we could actually win the war. The wonderful part is that if the media starts backing the war in the slightest in order to push voters toward Bill/Hillary, the Republican candidates will be the ones to benefit.

I see Hillary fading soon. Couple that with the fact that Silky does the best in head to head matchups against Republicans and I think we are in for a Silky/Hussein ticket. That would be extremely beatable. The girly man and the empty suit.

34 posted on 07/31/2007 4:52:28 AM PDT by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What the heck is a neocon and why does this guy lie?


35 posted on 07/31/2007 4:54:07 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: LibLieSlayer

Korn should be in prison for outing CIA agent Valerie Plame. Whatever Libby got Korn should get double.


36 posted on 07/31/2007 4:54:08 AM PDT by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One the things I like so much about Fred Thompson - he scares the crap out of the lefties.


37 posted on 07/31/2007 4:58:47 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: normy

Amen brother!

LLS


38 posted on 07/31/2007 5:03:36 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Corn is gayer than Richard Simmons in a neon pink Turkey Costume..


39 posted on 07/31/2007 5:04:16 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: prairiebreeze
“Well here you are, showing up on Fred threads to support the position of......David Corn.”

No she’s not! She pointed to ANOTHER source stating the obvious. FT is in the same mold as all the other CFR candidates. Globalist NeoCon is a fair description.

40 posted on 07/31/2007 5:05:40 AM PDT by wolfcreek (2 bad Tyranny, Treachery and Treason never take a vacation...)
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To: freekitty
What the heck is a neocon and why does this guy lie?

A neo-con in todays terms is a Republican who does not want Israel to be wiped off the face of the globe.

41 posted on 07/31/2007 5:07:50 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: hosepipe

LOL! You have a way with words, my friend. :)


42 posted on 07/31/2007 5:08:05 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: hosepipe

“Not that there’s anything wrong with that!” LOL


43 posted on 07/31/2007 5:17:30 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, this isn’t a hit piece.

“Neocon” is a term of . . . . . uh, . . . AFFECTION!!

(Yeah, THAT’S it!!)

And, uh . . . . . . . . it means that the leftists are uh, . . . . . . looking FORWARD to a um . . . . . SPIRITED and OPEN debate of the issues!!!

(THAT should be enough to appease those filthy neocons on the right!!)

/sarc


44 posted on 07/31/2007 5:19:11 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who was it who said that a neoconservative was a liberal with a teenage daughter?


45 posted on 07/31/2007 5:21:12 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: wolfcreek

Well OK then. Since somebody named Basil Harrington (??!) and especially David Corn say it, that must make it 100% true.

Whatever happened to freepers questioning sources? Apparently some just crossed the line that says they’ll side up with any author who furthers their own perspective or candidate bias. Regardless of how little known or even leftist that author is.

Do you get a warm fuzzy feeling from all the “truth” that’s printed at the NY Times as well?

LOL!


46 posted on 07/31/2007 5:22:13 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (PUT AMERICA AHEAD --- VOTE FOR FRED!!.)
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To: aruanan

That’s like: “A conservative is a liberal that’s been mugged”.


47 posted on 07/31/2007 5:23:00 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: prairiebreeze

they are willing to believe any source that supports their agenda, that much has become clear.


48 posted on 07/31/2007 5:25:21 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
For them, Libby has been a martyr of near-religious significance.

That's because Pontious Fitzfong tried to sacrifice him for Rove/Cheney/Bush's "sins".

49 posted on 07/31/2007 5:26:50 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Dems '08 choices are a Manly woman, a Womanly man, or a Child Senator)
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To: xsmommy

Sure seems like it. At this point we all might as well be reading the Washington Post and dutifully swallowing the pablum.

Good morning, btw.

:^)


50 posted on 07/31/2007 5:31:05 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (PUT AMERICA AHEAD --- VOTE FOR FRED!!.)
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