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Bill Clinton in '08! (For Vice President?! Or Arnold?)
The Los Angeles Times ^ | July 31, 2007 | Brian E. Gray

Posted on 07/31/2007 5:51:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

It is one of the ironies of the 2008 campaign that probably the most popular Democrat and the most electable Republican are both ineligible to run for the presidency. The 22nd Amendment bars Bill Clinton from a third election to the office of president, while the original Constitution renders Arnold Schwarzenegger ineligible for the presidency because he is a naturalized rather than a "natural-born" citizen.

But what about the second position on the national tickets? Could the Republicans and Democrats avail themselves of the charisma and experience of these two leaders by nominating them for the vicepresidency? (Please e-mail your clever double-entendres to the address below.)

Let's start with Gov. Schwarzenegger. Fearful of foreign influence over the new nation, the framers of the Constitution included in Article II, Section 1 the directive that "no person except a natural born Citizen ... shall be eligible to the Office of President." They said nothing about the citizenship of the vice president. Thus, under the original Constitution, Schwarzenegger could have been elected vice president, but he could not have ascended to the top job on the death or removal of the president.

This anomaly was but part of the framers' incomplete explication of the vice presidency -- a failing that has manifested itself in a variety of forms, from John Adams' lament that the Constitution created "the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived" to Dick Cheney's assertion that he occupies an office that stands apart from the three branches of U.S. government.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas; US: California; US: Illinois; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 12thamendment; barackhusseinobama; billary; billclinton; constitution; democrats; dickcheney; elections; gop; hillaryclinton; obama; potus; schwarzenegger
Uh, what?
1 posted on 07/31/2007 5:52:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
while the original Constitution renders Arnold Schwarzenegger ineligible for the presidency

Huh?
2 posted on 07/31/2007 5:54:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ahnuld is the “most electable Republican”?

When did they legalize dope in California? I must’ve missed the news.


3 posted on 07/31/2007 5:55:19 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who writes this unreadable leftist crap?


4 posted on 07/31/2007 5:56:15 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Arnold is about as “electable” as Rooty. Neither could get much beyond single digits.


5 posted on 07/31/2007 5:56:28 PM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice President of the United States.
-- Amendment XII - Consitution of the United States

6 posted on 07/31/2007 5:56:33 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: cripplecreek

He’s saying that an Amendment (22nd) keeps Bill Clinton from a third term, while the constitution itself keeps Arnold off the ticket.


7 posted on 07/31/2007 5:56:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Qualifications for VP are the same as qualifications for President.


8 posted on 07/31/2007 5:58:28 PM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (THE NEXT GENERATION CONSERVATIVE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Damn, where’s the barf alert on this left coast sputum? LOL


9 posted on 07/31/2007 5:58:49 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Common sense keeps an Austrian off the ticket.
10 posted on 07/31/2007 6:00:23 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Has the writer of this article ever read the Constitution? This is junk journalism.


11 posted on 07/31/2007 6:01:15 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (Hoping my 'carbon footprint' has crushed a few liberals)
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To: Nervous Tick
When did they legalize dope in California? I must’ve missed the news.

I think it's more of what they've been sniffing. Check their noses for brown stuff from the Democrat party.

12 posted on 07/31/2007 6:02:10 PM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (THE NEXT GENERATION CONSERVATIVE)
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To: cripplecreek

Maybe the LA Times have discovered Originalism? Or maybe not. Either way, no more Clintoons or Bushes.


13 posted on 07/31/2007 6:02:22 PM PDT by kcar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Brian Gray is an asshat.
You cant be VP if you cant be P. Those are the rules.


14 posted on 07/31/2007 6:04:06 PM PDT by finnman69 (May Paris Hilton's plane crash into Britney Spears house while Lindsey Lohan is over doing coke)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For the asshat LA Times writers:

The Twelfth Amendment to the United States Constitution requires the vice president to meet the same eligibility requirements as the president. That is, the vice president must be at least 35 years of age, a natural born citizen, and a resident of the U.S. for 14 years. The Twenty-second Amendment limits the president to only two terms in office. (Any period of service in the office of president, having succeeded from the vice presidency, counts as one term if it is for two years or more.) Thus, the maximum number of years a person may serve as president is ten years (two full four-year terms and one two-year term having succeeded to the presidency). Once a person is ineligible for the office of president, he is also ineligible for the office of vice president.

DUH


15 posted on 07/31/2007 6:06:56 PM PDT by finnman69 (May Paris Hilton's plane crash into Britney Spears house while Lindsey Lohan is over doing coke)
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To: advance_copy
But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice President of the United States. Amendment XII - Constitution of the United States

Please don't trouble liberal wishcasting with facts. They're so...so...so...inconvenient.

Thirty years ago, this kind of mistake would've never found its way into print. But, back then, journalists actually knew how to do research. And editors actually knew what questions to ask.

Today, we have the internet. And we have Google. And journalists who are simply incapable of any kind of research. >p? However, they are very skilled at promoting the liberal agenda...

16 posted on 07/31/2007 6:10:04 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Now Hillary could pick Jimmy Carter as a VP!

12th Amendment text:

“But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.”

22nd amendment text:

“Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.”


17 posted on 07/31/2007 6:10:14 PM PDT by finnman69 (May Paris Hilton's plane crash into Britney Spears house while Lindsey Lohan is over doing coke)
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To: okie01
This dumb ass thinks he's a constitutional scholar

He is ineligible for election to a third term, but he is constitutionally eligible to succeed to the presidency after election to the vice presidency.

18 posted on 07/31/2007 6:15:13 PM PDT by finnman69 (May Paris Hilton's plane crash into Britney Spears house while Lindsey Lohan is over doing coke)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The framers of the Constitution, I believe, had a logic much superior to thinkers today. Does anyone really think that the framers would have imagined the questions posed in this article? I don’t.

I believe the framers would have thought that people would naturally understand that if the the Constitution says (forgive my paraphrase):

1. The president must be a natural-born citizen. And . . .
2. The vice president shall assume the office of the presidency in the event of the death or incapacitation of the president.

...that the electoral college would not elect, nor would the Congress certify the placement of a vice president not qualified to be president.

19 posted on 07/31/2007 6:15:31 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: All

he’s a moron professor

Brian E. Gray is a professor at UC Hastings College of Law.

grayb@uchastings.edu


20 posted on 07/31/2007 6:16:02 PM PDT by finnman69 (May Paris Hilton's plane crash into Britney Spears house while Lindsey Lohan is over doing coke)
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To: cripplecreek

It does not seem to be a problem since several men from Ohio became President although Ohio was never officially admitted Ohio to the union until 1952. (There were problems with the original petition for statehood so they tabled it until someone discovered the admission was never done). This is a great trivia question. What was the 48th state admitted to the union?


21 posted on 07/31/2007 6:23:59 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

extra Ohio..bummer.


22 posted on 07/31/2007 6:24:42 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: finnman69
This dumb ass thinks he's a constitutional scholar

"This dumb ass", as you so delicately put it, can't be bothered to read or understand the Constitution.

Gray is truly and demonstrably a "dumb ass". He should be deeply embarrassed by his public display of stupidity and bias. But, like most "dumb asses", he is incapable of realizing it.

This is a perfect example of the pathetic trade journalism has become.

23 posted on 07/31/2007 6:29:36 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: finnman69

Bill Clinton is not ineligible to serve as President, he is merely ineligible to be *elected* President. Read the 22nd Am. carefully and see how Congress screwed up in the final drafting of the amendment, thus opening up a loophole that would allow Bill Clinton to accede to the White House if the President died, resigned or was removed and Bill Clinton was next in line.

And the 12th Am merely says that persons ineligible to serve as President are also ineligible to serve as VP, so since the 22nd Am doesn’t declare Bill Clinton ineligible to *serve* as President then he is not ineligible to serve as VP (or be elected VP, for that matter).

So if we want to keep Bill Clinton from serving as President again, we need to make sure he is not elected VP (or Speaker of the House or President Pro Tempore of the Senate, or get confirmed as a member of a Cabinet).

Same thing applies to George W. Bush, by the way.


24 posted on 07/31/2007 6:32:53 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: okie01
Gray is truly and demonstrably a "dumb ass". He should be deeply embarrassed by his public display of stupidity and bias. But, like most "dumb asses", he is incapable of realizing it. This is a perfect example of the pathetic trade journalism has become.

It's worse. he appears to be an envirormental law professor.Oh, and he went to Berkeley.

http://www.uchastings.edu/?pid=983

Expertise: Environmental Law.

Brian Gray received his B.A., cum laude, in economics from Pomona College in 1976. He continued his education at UC Berkeley, receiving his J.D. from Boalt Hall in 1979. While attending Boalt, he was editor-in-chief of the California Law Review. Professor Gray served as a law clerk to Judge Arlin M. Adams of the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit during the 1979-80 term. He went on to practice at Howard, Rice, Nemerovski, Canady, Robertson & Falk in San Francisco. Professor Gray has served on the Board of Directors of the Berkeley Law Foundation and the Natural Heritage Institute, has chaired the California State Bar Committee on the Environment, and has served as a consultant to the California Law Revision Commission. He has represented a variety of environmental organizations as appellate counsel and recently served as an expert witness in the PG&E bankruptcy. Professor Gray also appeared as an expert on the law of property in the litigation over title to Barry Bonds' 73rd home run. A case involving protection of water quality and endangered species in the Bay-Delta Estuary is currently before the California Supreme Court. Professor Gray teaches Environmental Law as a first-year elective, California Water Resources, Federal and Interstate Water Resources, and seminars on Property Rights and Environmental Regulation and on the American West. He was appointed to the Harry and Lillian Hastings Research Chair for the 1999-2000 academic year. Professor Gray also is the recipient of the Hastings Outstanding Professor award and most recently the William Rutter Award for Excellence in Teaching. Professor Gray's wife, Susan, is a former Assistant United States Attorney. They have two children, Sam and Will.

25 posted on 07/31/2007 6:40:36 PM PDT by finnman69 (May Paris Hilton's plane crash into Britney Spears house while Lindsey Lohan is over doing coke)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I dont read it that way.

12th Amendment text:

“But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.”

That means you CANNOT be VP if you are not eligible to be President. Clinton cannot be elected President again. There fore he is INELIGIBLE to be President again. And therefore, he cannot be VP.

The 12th requirement keeps anyone out who is ineligible to be President. That means two termers.


26 posted on 07/31/2007 6:52:12 PM PDT by finnman69 (May Paris Hilton's plane crash into Britney Spears house while Lindsey Lohan is over doing coke)
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To: Conservative4Ever
Has the writer of this article ever read the Constitution? This is junk journalism.

He's a "law professor" and makes it manifestly clear that like most lawyers he has no regard for the Constitution all the way through. Junk journalism, junk law, it's all turning to sh*t thanks to the perversion of the academy.

27 posted on 07/31/2007 6:52:50 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: AuH2ORepublican
And the 12th Am merely says that persons ineligible to serve as President are also ineligible to serve as VP, so since the 22nd Am doesn’t declare Bill Clinton ineligible to *serve* as President then he is not ineligible to serve as VP (or be elected VP, for that matter).

The 22nd amendment say nothing about serving as President. BUt the 12th precludes those who are ineligible candiates from being VP, thus Clinton could not constitutionally be in a position to 'serve'.

28 posted on 07/31/2007 6:55:57 PM PDT by finnman69 (May Paris Hilton's plane crash into Britney Spears house while Lindsey Lohan is over doing coke)
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To: finnman69
Now Hillary could pick Jimmy Carter as a VP!

Yep. Cahtah is eligible, and could serve another four years as president if events so ordain. But even Hillary is not so eeevil as to elevate the simpering pussilanimous pr*ck from Plains.

29 posted on 07/31/2007 6:56:09 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: finnman69
I'M TELLIN' YA, THIS GUY IS A MEATHEAD!!

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30 posted on 07/31/2007 6:56:49 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: advance_copy
But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice President of the United States.

William J. Clinton is most certainly not "Constitutionally ineligible to the office".

He's attained the age of 35 years.

He was born in Arkansas, while it was a State in the Union.

And he's maintained a legal residence within the US for the past fourteen years.

How is he "Constitutionally ineligible"?

He cannot attain the office by election, that's true.

But by succession? It would have been easy to bar this when XXII was drafted, but that was not done.

31 posted on 07/31/2007 6:58:12 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Trails of troubles, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: finnman69
Clinton cannot be elected President again. There fore he is INELIGIBLE to be President again.

Suppose George W. Bush were elected to the House, and after a long and distinguished legislative career was elected Speaker.

Then suppose the Presidency were to devolve on the Speaker beacuse of a terrorist attack or natural disaster.

Do you contend that, because Mr. Bush could not be chosen again by the Electoral College that he would not succeed to the office?

Of course he would.

The XXII Amendment does not bar elevation to the Presidency by succession, and there is no way to construe that it does.

Because this is true, the XII Amendment bar does not apply.

32 posted on 07/31/2007 7:05:17 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Trails of troubles, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: finnman69
The first thing one must consider is whether Bill Clinton is indeed ineligible to serve as President again. Due to the shoddy drafting of the 22nd Am., I believe that the answer is clearly in the negative. While Bill Clinton clearly could not be elected president more than twice (and had he initially served over 2 years of another president’s term, he could not have been elected president more than once), the 22nd Amendment does not prohibit him from serving as president after having served two terms as president.

If you disagree with the prior paragraph, then we must agree to disagree. If, however, you agree that the 22nd Am. merely disqualifies Bill Clinton from being *elected* president again, then it would be difficult to argue that he may not be elected VP when the 12th Am. only disqualifies from the vice presidency those who are not qualified to *serve* as president (not those who are not qualified from *being elected* president).

The key distinction is between a person ineligible to be *be elected* president and a person ineligible to *serve as* president. Arnold Schwarzenegger is ineligible to *serve as* president, since he’s not a natural-born citizen; by virtue of the 12th Am., he may not serve as Vp, either. Schwarzenegger could constitutionally become Speaker or Secretary of State, though, and if the succession statute made him next in line to the presidency they would have to skip him, as he would not be eligible to serve as president no matter what. I believe that the 22nd Am.’s disqualification is wholly different, and that someone like Bill Clinton or George W. Bush would not need to be skipped over if they were next in line for the presidency, and that similarly they would not be prohibited from being elected VP.

33 posted on 07/31/2007 7:08:38 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: Jim Noble

in your example, W would be able to serve as Pres for the resto fo the appointed term and be allowed to run for one elected term. It’s very clear in the 22nd.

Clinton is constitutionally inelgible to be President because he cannot be elected again. The 22nd amendment two term limitation makes Clinton inelgible, by the constitution. This is not hard to understand.


34 posted on 07/31/2007 7:10:17 PM PDT by finnman69 (May Paris Hilton's plane crash into Britney Spears house while Lindsey Lohan is over doing coke)
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To: finnman69
I.e., Gray is a well-educated idiot.
35 posted on 07/31/2007 7:16:34 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BiLl is the logical choice for VP. No other democrat knows more about vice.


36 posted on 07/31/2007 7:18:52 PM PDT by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I read the combination of the 12th and 22nd to add having served two terms to the list of dequalifying limits originally specified in Art II: US borne, 35years or older, 14 year resident.

I believe the terms limits in the 22nd are constitutional limits that produce an ineligibility.


37 posted on 07/31/2007 7:21:17 PM PDT by finnman69 (May Paris Hilton's plane crash into Britney Spears house while Lindsey Lohan is over doing coke)
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To: finnman69

“I read the combination of the 12th and 22nd to add having served two terms to the list of dequalifying limits originally specified in Art II: US borne, 35years or older, 14 year resident.

I believe the terms limits in the 22nd are constitutional limits that produce an ineligibility.”


Well, we disagree on that.


38 posted on 07/31/2007 7:24:12 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

this comes up every year

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/19/AR2006101901572.html
VP Bill? Depends on Meaning of ‘Elected’


39 posted on 07/31/2007 7:32:06 PM PDT by finnman69 (May Paris Hilton's plane crash into Britney Spears house while Lindsey Lohan is over doing coke)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
he is merely ineligible to be *elected* President.

Which means he can't be president. The word elected does not mean what you think it does.

40 posted on 07/31/2007 8:04:39 PM PDT by Technogeeb
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He could run with Bloomberg. They would likely take California and maybe New York.

John


41 posted on 07/31/2007 8:07:37 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

DGIH, it would be easier to find a cure for herpes than answer the Bill Clinton as vice president question these academic warts threaten us with. What we need is a clinton/activist professors immunization shot. They’re both killing me.


42 posted on 07/31/2007 8:20:44 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness ( Bumper sticker idea: Hillary/Obama Nation '08. Let the desolation begin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Bill is Hillarys choice for VP - two things:
1) Both will be looking over their shoulder and Bruce Lindsay won’t know who to work for.
2) The VP’s home will become a brothel.


43 posted on 07/31/2007 8:21:37 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: John Leland 1789
Fearful of foreign influence over the new nation, the framers of the Constitution included in Article II, Section 1 the directive that "no person except a natural born Citizen ... shall be eligible to the Office of President." They said nothing about the citizenship of the vice president. Thus, under the original Constitution, Schwarzenegger could have been elected vice president,

As the Vice President was originally the candidate who came second in the EC vote for President, the prof's loophole didn't apply

44 posted on 07/31/2007 8:23:50 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (“Serious-minded people have few ideas. People with ideas are never serious.” Paul Valery)
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To: Technogeeb

*elected*. Say....Obama ran with hillary as her vp running mate. Say..it’s just two days before the elections, and some unfortunate situation forced Obama to drop out (Spiro Angew, anyone?) at the last minute. Could she name bill as her new running mate? Or another scenario, could hil/obama be elected, obama is forced to step down shortly after the election. Could hillary name bill as her vice president?


45 posted on 07/31/2007 8:27:24 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness ( Bumper sticker idea: Hillary/Obama Nation '08. Let the desolation begin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This could use a “barf” alert.


46 posted on 08/01/2007 3:39:53 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Arnold Schwarzenegger as President
47 posted on 08/01/2007 3:50:33 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: advance_copy

they forgot about that part... didn’t they? lol


48 posted on 08/01/2007 7:23:30 AM PDT by Ancient Drive
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To: finnman69

an environmental law graduate from Berkeley... that explains the stench of stupidity all over this diatribe.


49 posted on 08/01/2007 7:25:51 AM PDT by Ancient Drive
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To: Technogeeb

“he is merely ineligible to be *elected* President.”

“Which means he can’t be president. The word elected does not mean what you think it does.”


Let’s just say that I know what “elected” means and leave it at that.


50 posted on 08/01/2007 8:15:07 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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