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Illegal Aliens Declare War on the United States
www.townhall.com ^ | August 1, 2007 | Douglas MacKinnon

Posted on 08/01/2007 1:31:42 AM PDT by givemELL

While the current administration, as well as Democrats and Republicans in Congress, focus on the war on terror and the war in Iraq, a greater real-time threat to our way of life and the rule of law in the United States, is manifesting itself just down the road a bit from the White House and the Capitol building . In Prince William Country, Virginia, illegal aliens have just basically declared war on the county, law and order, and the very livelihood of innocent Americans. They have done so, and no one in Washington really seems to care.

In the upside down world that is now our nation, these illegal aliens are outraged that the county is now trying to stem their overwhelming influx and the crushing burden their mass migration imposes on already strained county services. As hard as it may be to believe, these illegal aliens and their supporters, have become so enraged that the county is trying to uphold the law, that they have decided to attack the county on a number of levels.

Just last week, thousands of illegal and legal Hispanics living in the county met to plan their response to the rule of law. Voting with raised fists, they decided to punish the county trough a boycott of non-immigrant businesses, a labor strike, and a lawsuit. Town by town, city by city, county by county, these illegal aliens and the far left lawyers that are eagerly facilitating their lawsuits, plan to chip away at the sovereignty of the United States. And as they do, many of our elected officials and leading “news” organizations, are cheerleading them on from the sidelines.

Before the supporters of this illegal invasion demonize me, let me say again, that I am married to a Hispanic-American, I speak Spanish, and am not threatened one bit, by the culture. In fact, I think legal Hispanic immigrants add much to the fabric of our nation.

Illegal immigration however, represents a growing threat to our nation in a number of areas. Not the least of which, being crime. As an example, the police and people of Houston, Texas, are now dealing with organized gangs of illegal aliens from Mexico who are carrying out “express kidnappings” of the local citizens.

An “Express Kidnapping” being when someone is snatched off the street, driven to an ATM to drain their account, forced to have a family member bring down any money or valuables in the home as ransom, and then many times, still shot in the head and left by the side of the road. My wife’s family has fallen victim to a number of these kidnappings.

“Express Kidnappings” have been perfected in Mexico City, Caracas, Venezuela, and a number of large South American cities, and are now being exported to our nation. If you have not heard of them, don’t worry, they will soon be coming to your town.

In closing, the message from these illegal aliens and their supporters could not be more clear. “If you dare try to uphold the laws of your nation, state, county, or town, we will sue you, bankrupt your legal business, go on strike against you, and broaden our borders deeper into your nation. And we will do all of this with the assistance of your federal politicians, your mainstream media, and your lawyers. We will wait you out and we will win.”

Win they may because no one is coming to the rescue. The federal government has abandoned us on this issue. Those politicians are selling their souls for votes that will never come.

Your only hope -- our only hope -- is that state and local officials will make a principled stand against this lawless invasion. If not, the United States of America may soon become but a faint memory.


TOPICS: Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: aliens; corruption; crime; declare; illegal; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; noamnestyforillegals; princewilliamco; war
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I have been looking for this in the Southwest, even with violence in the US Southwest for 2008...not looking for this in Virginia...I think this will spread rapidly now...
1 posted on 08/01/2007 1:31:47 AM PDT by givemELL
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To: givemELL

Consider this from the darned well noted Norwegian blogger, Fjordman on the Death of Sweden...the events in Sweden are coming here not just from Muslims, but from illegal immigrants from our open Southern border... The Death of Sweden
By Fjordman
Created 2007-07-31 08:59

I still get questions as to why I, being Norwegian, write more about Sweden than I do about my own country. First of all: I do write about Norway sometimes. And second of all: If you look at capital cities alone, Oslo could quite possibly be the worst city in Scandinavia. However, in virtually all other respects, Sweden is worse. And yes, it is every bit as bad as I say it is.

The primary reason why I write so much about Sweden is because it is the most totalitarian country in the Western world, and should thus serve as a warning to others. The second reason is that Sweden, like my own country, now needs some “tough love.” Too many Swedes still cling on to the myth of the “Swedish model” while their country is disintegrating underneath their feet. If Sweden the nation is to be saved – if it still can be saved, I’m not so sure – then Sweden the ideological beacon for mankind must be smashed, because vanity now blocks sanity.

According to news site The Local, a judge who hears migration appeals had his house vandalized by left-wing extremists. Threats were sprayed on the walls, red paint was poured over the steps and an axe was left outside his home. “When a judge in a Swedish court has his home vandalised in this way, it is of course very serious,” said Ingvar Paulsson, head of the Gothenburg District Administrative Court . The group Antifascistisk Action (AFA) writes on its homepage that the attack was motivated by the situation of Iraqi asylum seekers. The Swedish Board of Migration has ruled that they should be deported if they cannot show that a threat exists against them personally.

It should be noted here that Sweden alone in 2006 accepted almost as many asylum applications from Iraqis as all other European countries did combined. Native Swedes, who live in a country that was one of the most ethnically homogeneous nations in the world only 30 years ago, will be a minority in their own country within a few decades, if current trends continue. Sweden is self-destructing at a pace that is probably unprecedented in history, but for the extreme Left, even this isn’t fast enough.

AFA openly brag about numerous attacks against persons who get their full name and address published on their website. According to them, this is done in order to fight against capitalist exploitation and for a global, classless society. Their logic goes something like this: If you protest against Muslim immigration, you suffer from Islamophobia, which is almost the same as xenophobia, which is almost the same as racism. And racists are almost Fascists and Nazis, as we all know, and they shouldn’t be allowed to voice their opinions in public. Hence, if you protest against being assaulted or raped by Muslims, you are evil and need to be silenced. If a native Swede is really lucky, he or she will thus first get mugged or battered by Muslims, and then beaten up a second time by his own extreme Leftists for objecting to being beaten the first time. The state does next to nothing to prevent either, of course. Native Swedes who object to a mass immigration that will render them a minority in their own country within a couple of generations have already been classified as “racists,” and racists are for all practical purposes outside of the protection of the law.

According to some observers, Islamophobic hatred is on the rise in Europe. Let’s have a look at what constitutes “racist hatred.” The following is used as an official example of what is considered an Islamophobic hate crime in Sweden: A Muslim family in a Swedish neighborhood asks whether it is possible for them to get something else to eat other than sausages made out of pork. Linda then answers: “No, we live in Sweden.” The family asks what she means by that. Linda repeats that “We live in Sweden, and you have to respect that.” The man of the family says that “We respect you, why can’t you respect us?” Linda then replies that “No, unfortunately not.” She laughs and walks away.

Contrast this with an example from 2006, when Chancellor of Justice Göran Lambertz discontinued his preliminary investigation regarding anti-Semitism at the great mosque in Stockholm. He wrote that “the lecture at hand contains statements that are strongly degrading to Jews, among other things, they are throughout called brothers of apes and pigs.” Furthermore a curse is expressed over the Jews and “Jihad is called for, to kill the Jews, whereby suicide bombers – celebrated as martyrs – are the most effective weapon.” Lambertz thought that the “recently mentioned statements in spite of their contents are not to be considered incitement against an ethnic group according to Swedish law.” His conclusions were that the preliminary investigation should be discontinued because this incitement against Jews could be said to originate from the Middle East conflict.

This double standard is not just limited to Jews. Dahn Pettersson, a local politician, has been fined 18,000 kronor for writing that 95 percent of all heroin brought in comes via Albanians from Kosovo. “It is never ethnic groups that commit crimes. It is individuals or groups of individuals,” prosecutor Mats Svensson told the court, which found Pettersson guilty of “Agitation Against a Minority Group.” Svante Nycander, former editor of daily Dagens Nyheter, stated that “the ruling in Malmö District Court is damaging to freedom of expression. Many will take it as proof that the authorities are afraid of uncomfortable truths, and that lacking reasoned counter-arguments they punish those who speak plainly.” In Sweden, saying that Muslim Albanians are behind much of the drug traffic in Europe (a fact) is a crime. Making derogatory statements about the native population, however, is just fine.

Bexhet Kelmeni is of Kosovar Albanian origin and lives in Malmö, the country’s third largest city, which is set to become the first Scandinavian city with a Muslim majority in a few years. He thinks that it is important that it has now been established that Dahn Pettersson’s assertions were criminal. “I am ashamed that there are such politicians,” says Kelmeni, who claims that he has been in contact with hundreds of Albanians and all of them have taken offense. “He needs to learn more about the Albanian culture,” Kelmeni says. What he doesn’t say is that many of the remaining Swedes in Malmö – the natives have been evacuating, or rather fleeing, the city for years due to rampant violence and harassment – get daily lessons in Albanian culture.

Feriz and Pajtim, members of Gangsta Albanian Thug Unit in Malmö, explain how they mug people downtown. They target a lone victim. “We surround him and beat and kick him until he no longer fights back,” Feriz says. They are always many more people than their victims. Isn’t this cowardly? “I have heard that from many, but I disagree. The whole point is that they’re not supposed to have a chance.” They don’t express any sympathy for their victims. “If they get injured, they just have themselves to blame for being weak,” says Pajtim and shrugs. “Many of us took part in gangs which fought against the Serbs in Kosovo. We have violence in our blood.” They blame the politicians for why they are mugging, stating that they are bored. If the state could provide them with something to do, maybe they would stop attacking people. But is the lack of leisure pursuits the only reason why they assault people? “No, it’s good fun as well,” says Feriz.

Criminal gangs of Albanians thus freely admit assaulting Swedes, but Swedes cannot suggest that there are criminal gangs of Albanians. That’s just racist.

The wave of robberies the city of Malmö is experiencing is part of a “war against the Swedes.” This is the explanation given by young robbers from immigrant backgrounds. “When we are in the city and robbing we are waging a war, waging a war against the Swedes.” This argument was repeated several times. “Power for me means that the Swedes shall look at me, lie down on the ground and kiss my feet. We rob every single day, as often as we want to, whenever we want to.” Swedish authorities have done virtually nothing to stop this.

Is there then no racism in Malmö? Yes, there are some nasty cases of Islamophobia. A bus driver was suspended for discrimination and hatred after he allegedly tried to stop a woman from boarding because she was wearing a burka. According to writer Mats Wahl, arson against schools costs more than 300 million kroner a year. An unofficial survey among 52 Swedish municipalities indicated that at least 114 such cases of arson were registered within the first half of 2006, but accurate numbers were hard to come by. At least 139 schools suffered attempted arson during 2002 alone. Björn Vinberg from the fire department in the Malmö area says it is degrading to put out fires again and again in the same immigrant areas, with school kids laughing at them and lighting a new one just afterwards. No doubt, this must be a protest against the institutionalized and pervasive Islamophobia in Swedish society.

In a country where the tax rate is above 60%, higher than in almost any other country on the planet save perhaps North Korea – which incidentally also has almost as much free speech as Sweden – the natives are attacked on a daily basis by immigrant gangs, yet the state seems unwilling to do anything to stop this. Although Muslims openly brag about targeting Jews and Christians, this doesn’t constitute a hate crime. But is does constitute racism and a hate crime if Muslims are not presented with halal sausages at all times or allowed to wear a burka wherever they want to.

According to Professor Wilhelm Agrell, Sweden now has a security policy based on the assumption that territorial defense is no longer needed. Military resources are only deemed relevant as political markers in distant conflicts and their own territory has become nothing more than a training ground. Agrell concludes that “after years of existential angst and budgetary black holes, Sweden’s military has finally taken down its flag, emptied its stores and fled the field.” The few soldiers they do have are in places such as Afghanistan, not at home. Jan Karlsen from the Swedish Police Union warned in 2007 that the underfunded police force would not be able to keep up with organized crime and ethnic tensions for much longer. Meanwhile, police officers are protesting against a new uniform designed to make them appear less aggressive by replacing boots with shoes, making guns less visible and changing the shirts to a softer, gentler color.

In an article from June 2007 with the title “Summertime — rape time,” Aftonbladet, the largest daily in Scandinavia, linked the spike in rapes during the summer to the warm weather. The official number of rape charges in Sweden has more than quadrupled during one generation, even more for girls under the age of 15. If this is due to the warm weather, I suppose the Scandinavian rape wave is caused by global warming? The fact that many of the suspects have a Muslim background, which is also proven by statistics from neighboring Norway, is purely coincidental, no doubt. The number of rapes in the Norwegian capital Oslo is now six times as high per capita as in New York.

According to journalist Karen Jespersen, Helle Klein, the political editor-in-chief of Aftonbladet from 2001 to 2007 and a former leading member of the Social Democratic Youth League, has stated that “If the debate is [about] that there are problems caused by refugees and immigrants, we don’t want it.” Opinion polls have revealed that two out of three Swedes doubt whether Islam can be combined with Swedish society, yet not one party represented in parliament has been genuinely critical of the immigration policies, and there is virtually no real debate about Multiculturalism and Islam.

During a demonstration in Stockholm organized by Islamic and anti-racist organizations in 2006, Helle Klein stood in front of a banner which read “A Sweden for all — Stop the Nazi violence” holding a speech warning against Islamophobia in the media. “Sweden for all” sounds almost exactly like “Sweden for Allah” in Swedish. When leading members of the political and media elites associate Islamophobia with Nazism while remaining silent on the violence committed by Muslim gangs in their own country, they are indirectly providing verbal ammunition to extreme Leftists groups such as AntiFascistisk Aktion, who physically assault critics of mass immigration.

The Brotherhood, an organization of Christian Social Democrats, has friendly relations with the Muslim Brotherhood, just as Klein’s Swedish Social Democratic Party had with the Fascist and Nazi regimes prior to WW2. Helle Klein has voiced sympathy for terrorist organization Hamas, the Palestinian branch of the MB, in her editorials, while warning against the threat to world peace posed by Israeli aggression and the Christian Zionist Right in the USA. Hamas is a Fascist organization openly calling for mass murder of Jews. The irony of warning against “Nazi violence” while showing sympathy for an organization that wants to finish what the Nazis started apparently doesn’t strike Ms. Klein, who is now studying to become a priest in the Church of Sweden. Her great-grandfather was a rabbi.

The Church of Sweden has announced its willingness to allow gay couples to marry in church, but would like marriage laws to be renamed “cohabitation laws.” How Klein intends to reconcile support for gay marriage with support for an Islamic terrorist organization that wants to kill gays beats me, but I’m sure she’ll think of something.

The British author Paul Weston believes that Britain’s national heart has ceased beating: “Our national soul is hovering indecisively above the operating table. The crash team have been called, but the politically inclined hospital switchboard have told them there is no problem, that everything is under control. The life support boys have heard otherwise, they are hurrying to get there, but other hospital staff members have switched the signage to the operating theatre and killed the lights. It is a big hospital, they only have minutes to get there, they are lost, confused, misinformed, and the clock is relentlessly ticking, and ticking, and ticking…”

I’m inclined to say the same thing about Sweden. The Swedish nation is currently on its deathbed. We can only hope there is life after death after all.


2 posted on 08/01/2007 1:35:23 AM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: givemELL

And just think Houston (where I use to live) is a sanctuary City.


3 posted on 08/01/2007 1:37:25 AM PDT by marty60
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To: marty60

Yup, draw a line from Northern CA to Houston and you have what Mexico, LaRaza, MECha are demanding and have been given by both parties...the open border was agreed to by both parties some time ago as part of the North American Union plan..fait accompli..the ball opened in Virginia means they want maybe more than that..a lot more.


4 posted on 08/01/2007 1:45:38 AM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: marty60

OMG........


5 posted on 08/01/2007 1:48:34 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: givemELL

Im glad to be nearing middle age....nuff said.


6 posted on 08/01/2007 1:48:46 AM PDT by teldon30 (disgruntled 2nd class)
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To: givemELL

Yes, they just can’t stand the thought of going back to that cesspool called Mexico. The problem is, where do they think they are going to work? Now that ICE is charging and fining businesses that hire these people under the table.

All it is going to take is some terrorist coming acros the Mexican border and successfully completing an attack. Then masybe then, people will understand just how important this issue is. Now that is pretty pathetic, it takes the death of innocent Americans to get Washington to take notice.


7 posted on 08/01/2007 1:57:44 AM PDT by marty60
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To: givemELL
A one-world government cannot be established until the concepts of borders, countries, and national sovereignity are eliminated.

The people in charge are doing nothing about the problem because the problem, to them, is not a problem. It is a process by which all other problems which are created, in their minds, by the fact that there exists sovereign nations, will disappear once sovereign nations are a relic of the past and there is a one-world system.

Don't expect anything to be done to fix this.

8 posted on 08/01/2007 1:57:46 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: freekitty

Yep and it’s not very pleasant to drive down certain streets and have obscene gestures made to passing motorist.


9 posted on 08/01/2007 1:59:08 AM PDT by marty60
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To: givemELL

Pray for America and its helpless citizens and their children, who remain at risk
from murder, rape, manslaughter, and terror, due to the incompetence of a traitorous Congress
and a uncaring President who remains steadfastly dedicated to giving Mexico what it could not
obtain previously via the Zimmerman telegram urged from Germany before WWI.


10 posted on 08/01/2007 2:07:16 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: marty60
If these illegal turds succeed in closing the legitimate American businesses in the county, they will have successfully taken steps to turn the U.S. into a Mexico-like clone. These illegal fools will never understand that the very forces-—that attempt to repel them-—are the same ones that draw them here in the first place!! By fighting, and destroying, those forces, they turn our country into the same “mess” they’ve left behind in Mexico or where ever.

They certainly add nothing to the collective intellect of our country. That’s a fact.

11 posted on 08/01/2007 2:26:13 AM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: marty60

On my small social security check to maybe come in the future, maybe I will pull a contrarian move and go to the Mexican part of the North American Union if it should come to pass...Americans will never accept it unless the dollar is dead, terror and turmoil cause them to beg for such an idea...no food, no security, and worthless money will probably do the deal, or so our parties must think..they want us to beg for it..they sure are not going to the trouble to sell it to us..the Germans went for Hitler for lack of food and money..our depression was not as severe as post war Germanys’..we are tougher, hence the violence to come...in this video, there is a reference to the ‘crappy’ cars in Mexico...maybe some of us can run a ‘crappy car crushing operation’ in Mexico for some retirement money as well as making a significant contribution to road safty in the American and Canadian parts of the NAU...just kidding...the video should get a laugh from anyone who cares to watch it...http://www.kerman94.com/mexicotourism.html


12 posted on 08/01/2007 2:28:43 AM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: givemELL

Thanks for posting MacKinnon. fjordman is OUTSTANDING!

Welcome aboard!


13 posted on 08/01/2007 2:40:39 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: PGalt

Fjordman should be daily reading by all Americans, here is a website of interest...scroll down to the bottom for the list of his latest papers...’Why the EU must go’ is one of the more important pieces..Bush has stated agreement with the EU recently for more cooperation...eom

www.victorhanson.com V Hanson is one of our better classical historians relating important cultural,govt.,military, social issues of the day

Some of the better essayists are to be found on www.americanthinker.com


14 posted on 08/01/2007 2:49:28 AM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: PGalt

Sorry,here is the Fjordman reference site: http://kleinverzet.blogspot.com/


15 posted on 08/01/2007 2:50:58 AM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: givemELL

Perhaps we can organize a movement to have lawyers who defend illegals disbarred.


16 posted on 08/01/2007 2:54:39 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: givemELL

The Vikings of old are turning over in their graves. They would never let their homeland be trashed in such a manner.


17 posted on 08/01/2007 2:55:46 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: nicmarlo

ping


18 posted on 08/01/2007 3:02:36 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (An American Patriot and an anti-Islam kind of fellow. (POI))
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To: givemELL

This was sent to me by email The paper it came from was not on it and it is just a portio of the article...but the main portion..Something needs to be done about these illegals and fast..

Illegal Aliens Declare War on the United States
By Douglas MacKinnon

Illegal immigration represents a growing threat to our nation in a number of areas. Not the least of which, being crime. As an example, the police and people of Houston, Texas, are now dealing with organized gangs of illegal aliens from Mexico who are carrying out “express kidnappings” of the local citizens.

An “Express Kidnapping” being when someone is snatched off the street, driven to an ATM to drain their account, forced to have a family member bring down any money or valuables in the home as ransom, and then many times, still shot in the head and left by the side of the road. My wife’s family has fallen victim to a number of these kidnappings.

“Express Kidnappings” have been perfected in Mexico City, Caracas, Venezuela, and a number of large South American cities, and are now being exported to our nation. If you have not heard of them, don’t worry, they will soon be coming to your town.


19 posted on 08/01/2007 3:07:30 AM PDT by Willow25
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To: pnh102

Holger Danske of Denmark has inspired a counter culture movement which is gaining strength in Scandinavia...a really good website to follow this is www.gatesofvienna.blogspot.com

Another site to follow is www.brusselsjournal.com and the writings of Paul Belien..an excellent tool for finding blog topics is www.blogpulse.com, a data mining tool for free. For example, type in ‘amero’, type in iran oil bourse, type in ‘iran oil market’ and see what you get


20 posted on 08/01/2007 3:08:51 AM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: Willow25

I did send this around and hope everyone does the same so the people of this country know what we are facing..Now I know what paper it came from...


21 posted on 08/01/2007 3:10:29 AM PDT by Willow25
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To: Willow25

I will do all I can right away...I just need about 15% of the population to help me...trouble is I am not George Washington. The info you posted is already at the top of the page in the article posted...and, you are correct.


22 posted on 08/01/2007 3:12:53 AM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: givemELL

I know it is at the top...I just got this portion in the mail and decided to post it..Thanks...We all need to let everyone know,I had never heard of this “Express Kidnapping”before I read this..


23 posted on 08/01/2007 3:17:58 AM PDT by Willow25
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To: Willow25
"The gang is adopting tactics used by major Mexican and Colombian drug-trafficking groups
and has become a gun-for-hire for many major Central and South American drug-trafficking cartels."

An “Express Kidnapping” being when someone is snatched off the street,
driven to an ATM to drain their account, forced to have a family member
bring down any money or valuables in the home as ransom, and then many times,
still shot in the head and left by the side of the road.
My wife’s family has fallen victim to a number of these kidnappings."

"“Express Kidnapping” will only apply to our stupid dhimmi constitutents.
WE are all totally protected at their expense. The fools."

24 posted on 08/01/2007 3:18:49 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: givemELL

Illegal Aliens Declare War on the United States..

their leader jorge bush and their most ardent fighters...fat ted/the lib-dems/no cajones republicans have delcared that the US will expect nothing less than total surrender of the US to these illegal invaders!!!!!


25 posted on 08/01/2007 3:18:58 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: Willow25

Our leaders and the leaders of Europe have imposed a lot of presumptious junk on our countries from the top down...and, we are about to meet in the middle, and, we will have to oppose this stuff from the bottom up, meaning from every small community in time. The greatest ally may be the internet, if it is not shut down. I use Google for nothing. A decent search engine for general use and more objective responses is www.beaucoup.com


26 posted on 08/01/2007 3:22:51 AM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: Willow25

I didn’t know the kidnappings had a name”express kidnapping”. Here is an article from yesterday that might interest you. Kidnappings are happening more and more on this side of the border.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1874488/posts


27 posted on 08/01/2007 3:23:24 AM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: Diogenesis

Right on..do you follow www.jihadwatch.org and the dhimmi link at its top bar? Excellent site for daily news on the Islamic onslaught...Europe is gone, cannot avoid Islamism, and we are not far behind.


28 posted on 08/01/2007 3:26:13 AM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: nyyankeefan

Both political parties have agreed since the late 1990s to an open border..a Rep pres just happens to be in office now to follow thru with the deal...if Gore had gotten in in 2000 the border still would have been kept open..it is a Dem Congress now..and there has been nothing about the border...if they do close the border it is too little, too late...the trouble in Virginia,soon to follow elsewhere is beginning...both parties are clearly to blame.


29 posted on 08/01/2007 3:33:33 AM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: givemELL

Thanks for the link. I hadn’t read fjordman’s latest.


30 posted on 08/01/2007 3:35:49 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: givemELL

I know Fjordman and he gets the urgency of securing our borders and maintaining our sovereignty better than most Americans. I saw all of this coming and it gives me no great pleasure to say that this isn’t even the tip of the iceberg.

I think that Bush, in his 8 years, had he acted could have saved us all a great deal of chaos. I think the situation reached critical mass about 5 years ago and it’s going to be very difficult to turn back the tide.

Attrition alone, is not the solution. These people will not return without a fight and it will take leaders of great courage and direction to weather the coming storm. The media are going to be playing the “breaking up families” meme to the nth degree and many will break with their convictions.

Fjordman is absolutely correct, as per usual. I knew this was coming and I realize like all thinking people we are also at war with radical islam for the preservation of Western Society. I don’t want my country to be a release valve for the corrupt government of Mexico. There are few that realize just how quickly we can turn into a 3rd world cesspool. This election is going to be very different from any other. Every question I have about what kind of leader we need for what’s ahead is always answered, Duncan Hunter. It is going to take energy, wisdom and someone up for the fight and I just don’t see that in any of the rest. Congress is going to need a thorough cleaning as well. If American’s don’t wise up in this one, and they play politics and follow polls as usual, they may wake up in a very different America from the one of which they are accustomed.


31 posted on 08/01/2007 3:38:01 AM PDT by WildcatClan (Hunter '08)
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To: givemELL

Reading fjordmans essays on what has, and is happening in Europe, really opened my eyes. It gave me a historical picture of who, why, and tactics used, in this travesty we are all living through.

An eye opener and very distressing. USA as we know it is dying.

In this case the bad guys are winning. Is it too late? I don’t know, but we better wake up to the spp and the full implementation of the NAU.


32 posted on 08/01/2007 3:48:47 AM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: givemELL
IMO Mr. MacKinnon is a Drama Queen.

His forecasts are way over the top.

If legal immigrants were to join in the boycotts...or sympathetic Americans...it would be another thing entirely, but illegals buy gasoline and groceries, etc., too. Where would they go? To the neighboring county?

Gee! Now THAT should only magnify the contributions of illegals to the overall economy.

Finally noob....you aren't getting absolution from me just because you supposedly have a Hispanic wife and speak Spanish. It only provides more evidence that you're a troll trying to incite.

33 posted on 08/01/2007 3:54:22 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: WildcatClan

Something being missed is looking at the deadly war between the Dems and Reps over the greatest prize in world history since Helen of Troy. It is the battle joined over the implementation of the ‘mythical’ North American Union. G. Soros ‘owns’ the Dem party..he is a Canadian...the election of 2008, if the Dems win will be his win. The post graduate trainees for the Parliament...remember Newt Gingrich talking on fox news about a parliamentary structure of govt maybe in our interest to prevent ‘gridlock’?..he was indirectly referring to the NAU. The trainees are in the 4th or 5th year of training from all three countries...they were in Mexico last year. The Republicans have had all the control of the attempted implementation for the last 7 years...the Dems want it...their desperation is rising rapidly...the first 100 days of the Dem Congress has resulted only in 300 congressional investigations against the Reps...Conyers needs only 3 members of the House to begin impeachment proceedings for the Pres. They are fighting over our carcass. Guiterrez of the Dept of COmmerce, Rice of the State Dept. and Chertoff of Homeland Security are the three appointed administrators of the effort..each country has three. Start doing searches for North American union, amero, the proposed new currency. All the info regarding what the parties are really fighting over is readily available. Go to www.eagleforum.org, scroll to the bottom, click on North American Union, and begin...many, many articles...12, maybe up to 17 states have now passed resolutions in one house or the other, but not both, to resist the implementation of such a union between Mexico, Canada and the US. A major meeting was held this June, one this month, and a big one in Quebec in August driven by large international corps for ‘guidance’ of the project. Internat. corps want to to bsns. with Islam and both parties are not imposing its rapid political, economic, cultural spread here..we are assaulted from the South, the North, the Middle East, and from Asia...more and more are beginning to notice..the more that notice, the less kindly we will be treated.


34 posted on 08/01/2007 3:56:19 AM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: WildcatClan; givemELL
I think that Bush, in his 8 years, had he acted could have saved us all a great deal of chaos. I think the situation reached critical mass about 5 years ago and it’s going to be very difficult to turn back the tide.

>You misunderstand. Bush wanted a "new America". He thinks it's what is best for all of us.

THE "NEW AMERICAN"
..........<

We are now one of the largest Spanish-speaking nations in the world. We're a major source of Latin music, journalism and culture.

Just go to Miami, or San Antonio, Los Angeles, Chicago or West New York, New Jersey ... and close your eyes and listen. You could just as easily be in Santo Domingo or Santiago, or San Miguel de Allende.

For years our nation has debated this change -- some have praised it and others have resented it. By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America.

As I speak, we are celebrating the success of democracy in Mexico.

George Bush from a campaign speech in Miami, August 2000.

You can read the speech here.

Here is an excerpt of a good critique of that speech:

In equating our intimate historic bonds to our mother country and to Canada with our ties to Mexico, W. shows a staggering ignorance of the civilizational facts of life. The reason we are so close to Britain and Canada is that we share with them a common historical culture, language, literature, and legal system, as well as similar standards of behavior, expectations of public officials, and so on. My Bush Epiphany By Lawrence Auster

The Path to National Suicide by Lawrence Auster (1990)

An essay on multi-culturalism and immigration.

Click the Pic!!!!

Excerpt....

How can we account for this remarkable silence? The answer, as I will try to show, is that when the Immigration Reform Act of 1965 was being considered in Congress, the demographic impact of the bill was misunderstood and downplayed by its sponsors. As a result, the subject of population change was never seriously examined. The lawmakers’ stated intention was that the Act should not radically transform America’s ethnic character; indeed, it was taken for granted by liberals such as Robert Kennedy that it was in the nation’s interest to avoid such a change. But the dramatic ethnic transformation that has actually occurred as a result of the 1965 Act has insensibly led to acceptance of that transformation in the form of a new, multicultural vision of American society. Dominating the media and the schools, ritualistically echoed by every politician, enforced in every public institution, this orthodoxy now forbids public criticism of the new path the country has taken. “We are a nation of immigrants,” we tell ourselves— and the subject is closed. The consequences of this code of silence are bizarre. One can listen to statesmen and philosophers agonize over the multitudinous causes of our decline, and not hear a single word about the massive immigration from the Third World and the resulting social divisions. Opponents of population growth, whose crusade began in the 1960s out of a concern about the growth rate among resident Americans and its effects on the environment and the quality of life, now studiously ignore the question of immigration, which accounts for fully half of our population growth.

This curious inhibition stems, of course, from a paralyzing fear of the charge of “racism.” The very manner in which the issue is framed—as a matter of equal rights and the blessings of diversity on one side, versus “racism” on the other—tends to cut off all rational discourse on the subject. One can only wonder what would happen if the proponents of open immigration allowed the issue to be discussed, not as a moralistic dichotomy, but in terms of its real consequences. Instead of saying: “We believe in the equal and unlimited right of all people to immigrate to the U.S. and enrich our land with their diversity,” what if they said: “We believe in an immigration policy which must result in a staggering increase in our population, a revolution in our culture and way of life, and the gradual submergence of our current population by Hispanic and Caribbean and Asian peoples.” Such frankness would open up an honest debate between those who favor a radical change in America’s ethnic and cultural identity and those who think this nation should preserve its way of life and its predominant, European-American character. That is the actual choice—as distinct from the theoretical choice between “equality” and “racism”—that our nation faces. But the tyranny of silence has prevented the American people from freely making that choice.

35 posted on 08/01/2007 4:00:31 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: givemELL

correction..”both parties are not opposing”..eom


36 posted on 08/01/2007 4:00:34 AM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: WildcatClan

I’m starting to think the only issue that really matters this election is the border, and only Tancredo or Hunter is serious about closing it and enforcing the law.

We could maybe win with a different cfr type republican but by the time the next election rolls around we’ll be hopelessly outnumbered by tens of millions more third world migrants who will be solid democrats.


37 posted on 08/01/2007 4:11:17 AM PDT by ran20
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To: raybbr

Thanks. Here is a 5 min speech given by a former Dem Gov of Colorado...it is what got me started paying attention.. A Frightening Analysis

We all know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration-overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of American’s finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor named Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, “Mexifornia,” explaining how immigration — both legal and illegal — was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, “If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let’s destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that ‘An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.’”

“Here is how they do it,” Lamm said: First to destroy America, “Turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country. History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar Seymour Lipset put it this way: ‘The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy. Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans.”

Lamm went on: Second, to destroy America, “Invent ‘multiculturalism’ and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

Third, “We could make the United States a ‘Hispanic Quebec’ without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: ‘The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved! Not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentrically and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.’”

Lamm said, “I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America reinforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities.”

“Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school.”

“My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of ‘Victimology.’ I would get all minorities to think their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population.”

“My sixth plan for America’s downfall would include dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity! Unity is what it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshiped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic Games.

A common enemy Persia threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to over come two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell.

“E. Pluribus Unum” — From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the ‘pluribus’ instead of the ‘Unum,’ we can balkanize America as surely as Kosovo.”

“Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits ~ make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of ‘diversity.’ I would find a word similar to ‘heretic’ in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like ‘racist’ or ‘x! xenophobes’ halt discussion and debate.”

“Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of ‘Victimology,’ I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them.”

In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said, “Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis’s book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don’t read that book.”

There was no applause.

A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Every discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate ‘diversity.’ American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America — take note of California and other states — to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell’s book “1984.” In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: “War is peace,” “Freedom is slavery,” and “Ignorance is strength.”

Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy are deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don’t get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream.


38 posted on 08/01/2007 4:12:59 AM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: DCPatriot; givemELL; WorkerbeeCitizen; Czar
His forecasts are way over the top. If legal immigrants were to join in the boycotts...or sympathetic Americans...it would be another thing entirely, but illegals buy gasoline and groceries, etc., too. Where would they go?

BACK WHERE THEY BELONG!!!

CHILLING COSTS OF ILLEGAL ALIEN MIGRATION

The chilling costs of illegal migration reach like an octopus into every aspect of our lives. Illegal aliens displaced American workers at a cost in excess of $133 billion dollars last year according to Harvard Professor George Borjas. College and high school kids cannot find a summer job in yard care, landscape, fast food or service jobs. Why? Illegal aliens work them at a third the wage and often, under the table.

Not only do your kids not have jobs; you’re paying taxes for illegal aliens who are not paying taxes.

Annually, 75 percent of drugs arrive from Mexico at a net cost of $120 billion hard currency that leaves our country for good. In addition, our tax dollars pay $80 billion for the War on Drugs each year. It is a war that hasn’t been won in the past 30 years and drugs are as available today to your teenager as they were in 1970.

When an alien criminal gets caught for rape, murder or drug distribution, you pay $1.6 billion annually in prison costs to house, feed and clothe those filling 30 percent of our federal and state prisons—not to mention TV, movies, weight rooms and other entertainment—they enjoy while being incarcerated.

HOW MUCH FURTHER INTO THIS NIGHTMARE?

1. $11 billion to $22 billion spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year.
2. $2.2 billion dollars a year spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
3. $2.5 billion dollars a year spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
4. $12 billion dollars a year spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally.
5. $17 billion dollars a year spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
6. $3 million dollars a day spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
7. 29 percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
8. $90 billion dollars a year spent on illegal aliens for welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
9. $200 billion Dollars a year in lost-suppressed American wages caused by the illegal aliens.
10. Illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of citizen-taxpayer Americans. Their children make a huge additional crime problem in the United States.
11. During the year of 2005, there were 4 to 10 million illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border. In addition, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens arrived from terrorist countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into the U. S. from the Southern border.
12. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 billion in remittances back to their countries of origin. Obfuscation may have hidden $35 Billion more.
13. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants in the United States."
14. Every day (average), 12 Americans are murdered by an illegal alien. Another 13 Americans are killed by uninsured drunk illegal aliens, and Eight American Children are victims of a sex crime committed by an illegal alien each day! Local cops, acting in error, sometimes "forget" to annotate nationality on reports. The numbers may be worse.
15. Today, criminal aliens account for over 29 percent of prisoners in Federal Bureau of Prisons facilities and a higher share of all federal prison inmates. These prisoners represent the fastest growing segment of the federal prison population. Incarceration of criminal aliens cost an estimated $624 million to state prisons (1999) and $891 million to federal prisons (2002), according to the most recent available figure from the U.S. DOJ Bureau of Justice Statistics.
16. "Illegal Aliens and American Medicine," "Many illegal aliens harbor fatal diseases that American Medicine fought and vanquished long ago, such as drug-resistant tuberculosis, malaria, leprosy, plague, polio, dengue and Chagas disease." The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons.
17. In 2002, HIV/AIDS was the third leading cause of death among Hispanic men aged 35 to 44 and the fourth leading cause of death among Hispanic women in the same age group. Most Hispanic men were exposed to HIV through sexual contact with other men. Source (U.S. CDC):
18. If enacted, the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act (CIRA, S. 2611) would be the most dramatic change in immigration law in 80 years, granting Amnesty to 30 million illegal immigrants, and allowing an estimated 100-203 million persons to legally immigrate to the U.S. over the next 20-40 years – a number equal to fully two-thirds of the current population of the United States.
19. U.S. Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) today unveiled an impact analysis that shows the Senate immigration bill – should it become law – would permit up to 217.1 million new legal immigrants into the United States over the next 20 years, a number equal to more than 70 percent of the total current population.
20. The number of illegal immigrants in the United States is at least 20 million, and may be as many as 30 million people, more than triple the official nine million people estimated by the Census Bureau. 03 Jan 2005.
21. Cases of Leprosy on the Rise In The U.S. , The New York Times. "While there were some 900 recorded cases in the United States 40 years ago, today more than 7,000 people have leprosy." Leprosy is an airborne virus; it can also be spread by touching and coughing.

Are you sickened by this movie? This nation needs a 10 year moratorium on all immigration. We need to stop this invasion of our nation and destruction of our future.

Sources for all 21 points:

1, Immigration and welfare
2, High cost of cheap labor
3, High cost of cheap labor
4, Lou Dobbs: The debate over immigration and border security continues
5, Lou Dobbs: The debate over immigration and border security continues
6, Lou Dobbs: The debate over immigration and border security continues
7, Lou Dobbs: The debate over immigration and border security continues
8, Lou Dobbs: Encore presentation: Broken borders
9, Lou Dobbs: The debate over immigration and border security continues
10, President Bush Convenes Two-Day War Summit at Camp David; Will U.S. Troops Soon be Leaving Iraq?
11, Confronting the threat at the southern border
12, Latinos are sending more money home
13, Violent crimes institute and Biting the hands that feed you
14, The criminal alien problem is growing
15, Journal of the American physician and surgeons
16, HIV/AIDS among hispanics in the United States
17, Senate Immigration Bill Would Allow 100 Million New Legal Immigrants over the Next Twenty Years
18, U.S. Sen. Jeff Sessions Unveils Massive Numerical Impact Of Senate Immigration Bill
19, The underground labor force is rising to the surface
20, Cases of Leprosy on the Rise in U.S.
21, Leprosy in America: new cause for concern and LEPROSY, HEPATITIS AND TUBERCULOSIS RISING FAST IN THE U.S.

39 posted on 08/01/2007 4:23:10 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Diogenesis

They look like what they are A bunch of goons with their hands out to any country other than their own..


40 posted on 08/01/2007 4:23:38 AM PDT by Willow25
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To: texastoo

Thank you


41 posted on 08/01/2007 4:26:03 AM PDT by Willow25
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To: givemELL

bookmark for later read


42 posted on 08/01/2007 4:36:56 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: nicmarlo

Thanks for the info...here is a trillion that is spent due to govt regulation...http://acuf.org/issues/issue88/070721gov.asp


43 posted on 08/01/2007 4:37:37 AM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: givemELL
a trillion that is spent due to govt regulation

I don't know what's more flabbergasting........these figures, or the denial as to the cost of illegals!

44 posted on 08/01/2007 4:39:02 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

What these laments seem to have in common is the futile appeal that the government do something. Clearly, those in government have what they want when they have our money to support them. They don’t need us anymore, and they are sure to do what they want, nothing more.


45 posted on 08/01/2007 4:44:19 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT; Founding Father; milford421; FARS; CarolinaGOP; Calpernia

Ping.


46 posted on 08/01/2007 4:46:29 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( Today is a good day for working on some heavy praying. The world needs God to hear them.)
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To: marty60
I won’t back Bush anymore on anything.

How can I trust a president who is not only casting a blind eye at the situation, but is with full awareness and malice a forethought destroying our sovereign nation.

47 posted on 08/01/2007 4:46:31 AM PDT by Vaquero
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Many of our bureaucrats and planners are openly Leninist ("the worse, the better").

You cannot understand Federal involvement in the medical industry since 1965, for example, in any other way than that its destruction IS the purpose of the intervention.

48 posted on 08/01/2007 4:48:30 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Trails of troubles, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: givemELL
I have been looking for this in the Southwest, even with violence in the US Southwest for 2008...not looking for this in Virginia.

I have been expecting it for a while. Did you know that California and Virginia are the the two main centers of operation of MS-13? We must be eternally vigilant, and not afraid to take our own security into our hands. The government sure isn't gonna help us. All they see is a potential voter base and another justification for their confiscatory wealth redistribution schemes.

49 posted on 08/01/2007 4:50:18 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: givemELL

Good I hope they do, it’ll make them easy to spot and round up.


50 posted on 08/01/2007 4:50:22 AM PDT by Anonymous Rex ( For Rent)
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