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Kansas Republicans will demand loyalty oath
Kansas City Star ^ | August 1, 2007 | Mike Hendricks

Posted on 08/01/2007 11:24:10 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur

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Given the split in the party I don't suppose this is all that surprising. What is surprising is the opposition he seems to be getting from the conservative wing of the party. The very people Kobach can't afford to tick off if he hopes to run for Senate in 2010.
1 posted on 08/01/2007 11:24:16 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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Yet, beginning next January, the state GOP will begin purging its leadership — all the way down to the precinct level — of any party official who actively supports non-Republicans for office.

We had to do this in my county. A certain set of Republican precinct committeemen and district captains thought it was OK to endorse dems in the election. If they want to do that as private citizens, OK. But as party officials, they are obligated under our bylaws to actively support republican candidates. If they don't they shouldn't be party officials.

When they go to the dark side, the press, of course, makes a huge deal out of it.

2 posted on 08/01/2007 11:27:52 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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They're right. No point in letting liberals invade your party, take leadership posts and county chairs and use that to elect Dims.

Besides, this is the business of the Kansas GOP. I'd feel the same way if my state party let Dim advocates into leadership positions or let them run ads for Dims.
3 posted on 08/01/2007 11:44:51 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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I love Kobach but party loyalty should never come first. The problem is party ideology. We have to have unity in fundamental principles. We don’t. So the Kansas Republicans should recognize reality and split. We have handed power to people who do not represent the state or national party platform. That needs to stop. I would rather see people sign a commitment to conservative principles rather than a commitment to party power. If you are a liberal there is a party for you; it’s called the Democrat party.


4 posted on 08/01/2007 11:46:08 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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Johnson County is still a Republican stronghold, yet the 3rd Congressional District includes Wyandotte County which is a “perpetual” RAT infested chunk of real estate. Not all of us are monolithic voters. There was an effort in redistricting the 3rd. It never happened. As the addage goes “Born Democrat in Wyandotte County, vote Democrat in Wyandotte County.” Come early and vote often. Not to mention, if your name ends in “ski” etc. you’ve got a better chance of getting a city or county job. I had to keep my Republican affilation hushed to get a summer job in the early 70’s on the Kansas Highway Dept while attending college. Just tellin’ it like it is folks. The Great Oz Has Spoken


5 posted on 08/01/2007 12:02:11 PM PDT by WyCoKsRepublican
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Kobach is a good guy and what the heck, why not try this? Since I hail from the area, I know how bad the interparty backstabbing can be. While I find that Republican liberals/country clubbers from KS (Johnson County) to be the biggest backstabbers, both sides have been guilty.


6 posted on 08/01/2007 12:11:35 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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Besides, this is the business of the Kansas GOP. I'd feel the same way if my state party let Dim advocates into leadership positions or let them run ads for Dims.

I am in the Kansas GOP. And I can understand the need for loyalty among those recognized as leaders of the party, though that should not require an oath for them to do the right thing. I find it mildly surprising that the most opposition seems to be coming from the wing of the party you would least expect defections from.

7 posted on 08/01/2007 12:14:07 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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ok if we call it something other than “loyalty oath” it would be palatable.

You can’t have ANYONE leading the party who is fighting for an opposing candidate.

the HONEST thing to do is to resign and campaign for the other person.


8 posted on 08/01/2007 12:16:11 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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There was an effort in redistricting the 3rd. It never happened.

I think that they gave up redistricting the 3rd to keep a GOP majority in the 2nd. Thanks to Foley, that didn't make enough of a difference.

Democrats win because they figured out how to beat the Republicans. Avoid a primary fight. Sew up the independents. Carve off the GOP moderates. And if you're Nancy Boyda have your opponent get caught in a lie about Mark Foley.

9 posted on 08/01/2007 12:18:52 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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One of the funnier vignettes in Catch-22... The Loyalty Oath.


10 posted on 08/01/2007 12:19:04 PM PDT by steveyp
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Haven’t heard the term “loyalty oath” in quite a while. I usually associate it with one of my favorite M.A.S.H. scenes:

Col Flagg, investigating Sidney Friedman, discovers that the Army psychiatrist hasn’t signed his loyalty oath. Pierce and Hunnicutt congratulate Friedman as possibly having found a way to be sent home and get out of the Army. Flagg interjects “You think you’re smart, Friedman. Well, you’re dumb, very dumb...and you’ve met your match!”


11 posted on 08/01/2007 12:22:20 PM PDT by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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You can’t have ANYONE leading the party who is fighting for an opposing candidate.
the HONEST thing to do is to resign and campaign for the other person.

I agree completely. Regardless of your personal opinions, if you've accepted a position of leadership in the party then you are duty bound to support the party's candidates. Period. If you can't then you shouldn't be in that position of leadership to begin with. Still, I think that there were better ways to go about doing it than this. Regardless, the people Kris seems to be alienating the most are the ones he will need the most come 2010.

12 posted on 08/01/2007 12:24:27 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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What do you expect when you have stunts that are pulled by the likes of Paul Morrison and the traitor Mark Parkinson, the former Chairman of the state party who sold his soul to Kathleen Gilligan-Sebelius ?

However, saying that, I can see the downside of compelling Conservatives to have to support liberal RINOs that do nothing to further the Conservative agenda, the only reason for the GOP to exist.


13 posted on 08/01/2007 12:24:49 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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I think the real estate problem caused Ryun more problems than the Foley issue. What is clear is that Boyda is incompetent since taking office and is a bonafide moonbat.


14 posted on 08/01/2007 12:27:51 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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What do you expect when you have stunts that are pulled by the likes of Paul Morrison and the traitor Mark Parkinson, the former Chairman of the state party who sold his soul to Kathleen Gilligan-Sebelius ?

Hell yeah. Let's have a coup.

However, saying that, I can see the downside of compelling Conservatives to have to support liberal RINOs that do nothing to further the Conservative agenda, the only reason for the GOP to exist.

So you're all for dumping party loyalty at one end of the political spectrum but damn those souls to hell who dare do it at the other end? Why am I not surprised?

15 posted on 08/01/2007 12:30:22 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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I find it mildly surprising that the most opposition seems to be coming from the wing of the party you would least expect defections from.

They might fear a Rudi nomination when they would then be compelled to vote for him and endorse him, etc. Or conservatives in some parts of the state may feel their prospects of getting a Blue Dog elected that favors gun rights over a local RINO might be used against them.

Loyalty oaths of this type really are generally a suspect notion. But I think the line is pretty carefully drawn. Still, this is you guys' business, not subject to Cornhusker approval from moi. The NE GOP has plenty of its own problems. Like the membership of Hagel.
16 posted on 08/01/2007 12:32:35 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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The question is...will we stop this for 2008.

Kansans do not support Boyda and Moore’s liberalism, but they keep squeaking by due to this strategy.

It has to end.


17 posted on 08/01/2007 12:33:08 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Dick Cheney should have gone hunting with Hillary." -- Yakov Smirnoff)
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This loyalty thing may help, but it can only go so far.


18 posted on 08/01/2007 12:33:31 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Dick Cheney should have gone hunting with Hillary." -- Yakov Smirnoff)
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Yeah, how clumsy of me to forget if Allende were Governor, you'd be supporting him to the hilt. ;-)

"So you're all for dumping party loyalty at one end of the political spectrum but damn those souls to hell who dare do it at the other end?"

Easy, because I just said there is no reason for the Republican party to exist if it supports liberal candidates and causes. There's already a Democrat party for that.

19 posted on 08/01/2007 12:40:56 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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I think the real estate problem caused Ryun more problems than the Foley issue.

That townhouse was bought in 2000. It hadn't made a difference in 2002 or 2004. On the other hand, last year Ryun was stupid enough to tell his district that he barely knew Foley and didn't even know he lived across the street from him. Then it turns out that he was hosting fund raisers with him in that very townhouse neighborhood. People out here take a dim view towards being lied to.

What is clear is that Boyda is incompetent since taking office and is a bonafide moonbat.

If incompetence was a bar to re-election we'd depopulate the House and the Senate ever couple of years. But a moonbat she may be, she'll still probably beat Ryun like a drum again if he's the GOP nominee after the bitter primary that's shaping up. Kobach needs to take matters in hand and unite everyone around a third candidate.

20 posted on 08/01/2007 12:41:38 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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