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How Psychiatry Makes "Patients" of Normal Children
press release | 06/22/07 | Fred Baughman, MD

Posted on 08/02/2007 7:05:34 AM PDT by Lennyq

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To: MichiganCheese
I also think it is criminal on the part of the school since they diagnosed the “problem” and essentially prescribed medication by using bully tactics.

They should be arrested for practicing medicine without a license.

41 posted on 08/02/2007 8:38:13 AM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: sam_paine

My information is obviously dated, and I stand corrected. The military probably had to change its rule due to the large number of potential recruits that would be turned down.


42 posted on 08/02/2007 8:38:39 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Lennyq

There are some fundamental problems with the medical industry and their methods of prescribing drugs. My brother’s 95 pound mother-in-law, 93, has dementia, was booted out of two nursing homes because she was “disruptive” and “dangerous” . . . at 95 pounds.

She was sent to a nursing home with psychiatric treatment capabilities. They put her on anti-psychotic drugs that doped her up and she lost 9 pounds in 2 weeks. When my sister-in-law complained about the damage it was doing to her mother and removed her from that nursing home, a nurse admitted that to collect from the payer, in this case the Federal government, they had to be administering some type of anti-psychotic drug. So the reimbursement rules were dictating her treatment.

There is no telling how much of this type of thing goes on, but I know of a number of elderly who have been over-medicated, my grandmother included This needs to be addressed big time.


43 posted on 08/02/2007 8:40:05 AM PDT by RatRipper
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To: sam_paine

I just called the local Marine recruiter. He said that if a person has been off Ritalin since age 12, then it would not likely be a deal-breaker for joining. If you are still on it in high school, that would be a disqualifier.


44 posted on 08/02/2007 8:47:55 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: LibKill; JamesP81

Teachers are encouraged to label kids as ‘ADHD’ so the school can receive enhanced funding from the feds.

Schools need more arts and activity in the curriculum. Boys in particular need physical challenge as well as mental challenge. If they could run off some energy they’d be better able to sit still through classes.

Yet another illustration of why we need less big government and more small government.


45 posted on 08/02/2007 8:56:29 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Kozak

OK, which psychiatric “disease” has a physical component ?

Guess what - those diseases would then be treated by neurologists, not psychiatrists.


46 posted on 08/02/2007 8:58:17 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: lepton

No, it doesn’t. The “symptoms” of the ADHD “disease” are simply a list of behaviors that make adults in certain situations uncomfortable.

It is a completely subjective diagnosis.


47 posted on 08/02/2007 9:00:04 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Follow the money.

Agreed, that is why it is interesting to note that this doctor is also selling a book from which this 'teaser' information comes from.

Follow the money - a knife that cuts both ways.

48 posted on 08/02/2007 9:03:30 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA (Never argue with an idiot. He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience)
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To: Dogrobber
It was called a "ruler."

Try hitting a child with a ruler today and see how fast one ends up in a local jail cell and losing every possession owned.

49 posted on 08/02/2007 9:05:14 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA (Never argue with an idiot. He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Teachers don’t have to pressure parents in such overt ways; oftentimes they are a bit more roundabout than that. They can (and often do) just cause so much trouble for your kid that it makes you want to do “something” just to get the negative and destructive teacher attention off your kid.

I succumbed - I homeschooled mine. I don’t know who was more relieved - me for not having to put up with the teacher BS or the kid for not having to deal with the problem teachers.


50 posted on 08/02/2007 9:06:28 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Cogadh na Sith

Why don’t you try some facts instead of a smear ? The man is a board certified neurologist, and his arguments should be considered on their scientific merits, not on your illogical unsupported statement.

Being a consultant to an organization that you (and I for that matter) find kooky does not invalidate everything he does.


51 posted on 08/02/2007 9:09:37 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: scrabblehack

Rudolph Flesch called it disteachia.


52 posted on 08/02/2007 9:10:11 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: sam_paine

I suppose you believe in the human cause of global warming just because the majority says it exists ?

Your gubmint skrewel taught you well.


53 posted on 08/02/2007 9:12:06 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Marylander

single malt usually manages mine just fine ;)


54 posted on 08/02/2007 9:13:09 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Lennyq

But let a kid give another kid an aspirin or a Mydol and wham....enemy of the state.


55 posted on 08/02/2007 9:13:37 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: Eagles Talon IV

Two weeks ago, I put my eleven year old in the car and drove five hundred miles to visit family. He spent the night with my younger sister and her husband... they are both fun, boisterous, and energetic people.

My son became excited and played really hard... and had a difficult time calming down when asked. He had just spent eight hours cooped up in a vehicle! He was happy to spend time with his fun-loving uncle who wrestled, jumped around, made lots of noise and cracked many jokes. Of course my son was excitable and boisterous!

My sister and her husband have no children... but they were quick to pronounce that my son must be ADHD... because he was hyper! Oh, my goodness! They know nothing about raising children and their energy levels. I was really annoyed.

At school, my son fidgets ALL THE TIME. That is because he becomes bored as he absorbs the lessons faster than others. He is highly intelligent and doesn’t need to be spoon-fed the answers. His teacher learned to give him things to do with his hands and to fast-forward him ahead of his class and started teaching him division when the others were still beginning to learn multiplication.

My son is bright, imaginative, happy and a very good student. Should a future teacher complain about his behavior, I will resist all labels and any attempt to hint at a phychological problem or a course of medication. It is my responsibility to guard his health from the ignorance of others.

Why more parents don’t take their children’s health more seriously is beyond me. They are guilty of abuse and neglect should they blindly follow the prescriptions of a 24 year old teacher or school social worker who know nothing about the child.


56 posted on 08/02/2007 9:17:32 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Life isn't fair. It's just fairer than death, that's all.--William Goldman)
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To: scan59

Interesting article and replies.


57 posted on 08/02/2007 9:22:55 AM PDT by scan58 (Diversity results in a collection of unconnected individuals.)
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To: Lennyq
ADHD is not a disorder, disease, syndrome or chemical imbalance of the brain.

Horsecrap. By definition, any identified group of symptoms constitutes a "syndrome", whether it means anything (or even exists) or not. And while it is ridiculously overdiagnosed, ADHD does exist. My wife has it. She takes Strattera, a non-stimulant drug; she used to take Ritalin but it interfered with her already severe heart problems.

58 posted on 08/02/2007 9:25:38 AM PDT by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
My son is bright, imaginative, happy and a very good student. Should a future teacher complain about his behavior, I will resist all labels and any attempt to hint at a phychological problem or a course of medication. It is my responsibility to guard his health from the ignorance of others.

Why more parents don’t take their children’s health more seriously is beyond me. They are guilty of abuse and neglect should they blindly follow the prescriptions of a 24 year old teacher or school social worker who know nothing about the child.

My grandson is so smart he scares me. Yet my daughter has allowed him to be poisoned by drugs because the teachers "find him disruptive". He probably belongs in a class for advanced students but of course there are none of those in this school (supposedly an excellent one) because it would make the students not in an advanced class to have injured self esteem.

I have expressed my sorrow for her and her child for the world they will be living in by 2040 or so. She has no idea what I am talking about.

59 posted on 08/02/2007 9:27:26 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: lepton

It may exist but more like one case in every ten that is diagnosed. You ignore the totally artificial enviroment of the elementary classroom. Boys are naturally more active than girls; they are taught by women who expect boys to behave like girls. In many schools, even recess has been abolished. This used to let high energy kids—and there are always some girls who fit this description also—throw off the excess energy. Add to this the change in the psychiatric industry, where psycholoanalysis has been abandoned in favor of the new drugs. Clinical depression is something real, but often patients are simply a matter of people who are unhappy and neurotic simply because they feel they ought to be happy all the time and, like being what it really is, they are not. So billions of upper and billions of downers. Many of these hyper kids would be better off have some wine coolers in their lunch than taken the R. medicine.


60 posted on 08/02/2007 9:28:13 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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