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Vegas Auto Dealer Told to Furl U.S. Flag
Breitbart ^ | 08/02/2007

Posted on 08/02/2007 1:12:35 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd

LAS VEGAS (AP) - An auto dealer vowed Thursday to fight a city order to take down the 109-foot pole from which he flies an American flag about the size of a competition volleyball court. The City Council voted Wednesday to order the Towbin Hummer dealership to take down the flag after officials said the pole was too high and neighbors complained the flag flapped too loudly.

"The American flag stays," dealership owner Dan Towbin declared. "I'm not convinced that people are complaining because of noise. This is about vindictiveness and power."

Towbin says the 30-foot-by-60-foot flag fits with his oversized dealership selling oversized cars, but rejects opponents' claims that it's an advertising tool.

"All I can tell you is we never sold a vehicle based on a flag," he said.

The council action followed a similar decision in May. Towbin sued the city, and a state judge last month sent the issue back to the council, ruling that he should have been allowed to have an attorney represent him before the body.

Towbin's lawyer, David Chesnoff, said Thursday that case remains pending.

"We're going to do whatever we can to keep the American flag flying," he said.

City regulations limit poles to 40 feet, but the council grants case- by-case exceptions.

Towbin got permission for a 100-foot pole in 2006, and the city has approved eight other flagpoles of that height or higher. Assistant City Attorney Bill Henry, however, said Towbin acknowledged last year that the council could revisit the decision if it bothered neighbors.

"We think it's arbitrary that they decide who gets it and who doesn't," Towbin said Thursday, adding that noise meters he put at a neighboring house didn't support complaints about loud flapping.

"If I was convinced I was truly disturbing people, I would have taken it down a long time ago," he said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: figantice; flag; hugeflag; oldglory; verypatriotic; zoning
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A car dealership with a huge figantice US Flag??

Whoever heard of such a thing.

Seriesly though; Is this an advertising gimmick or is Towbin all that patriotic?

1 posted on 08/02/2007 1:12:40 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

figantice???

I bet you know I meant gigantic.


2 posted on 08/02/2007 1:14:13 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

figantice?........


3 posted on 08/02/2007 1:15:07 PM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Seriesly though; Is this an advertising gimmick or is Towbin all that patriotic?”

hard to imagine a car salesman doesn’t consider the impact on sales of a particular gesture or 30x60 flag.


4 posted on 08/02/2007 1:15:14 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Responsibility2nd

190 foot pole? volleyball court sized flag? that seems a bit excessive. even for a hummer dealership.


5 posted on 08/02/2007 1:16:07 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: Responsibility2nd
> Seriesly though; Is this an advertising gimmick or is Towbin all that patriotic?

If he's got another one like it at his residence, he's patriotic.

If not, it's an advertising gimmick.

I think it's fine, in a commercial zone. if it meets the local requirements for height and noise. I love to see big Old Glories flying.

6 posted on 08/02/2007 1:16:23 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

How did this story get out of Vegas?


7 posted on 08/02/2007 1:16:30 PM PDT by SGCOS
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To: Responsibility2nd

Fig & ice......

8 posted on 08/02/2007 1:16:58 PM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: Red Badger

Figantice. As this thrad is so figantice.

Look. It even is a keyword!

lololol


9 posted on 08/02/2007 1:17:45 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

Really does not matter to me whether he flies the flag to bring attention to his dealership or because he is very patriotic ... I love to see flags of great proportions. Can’t imagine that anyone would complain about the flapping noise, if there is indeed any, unless they were not particularly aligned with what the flag stands for.


10 posted on 08/02/2007 1:17:50 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: thefactor

i meant 109 foot pole...


11 posted on 08/02/2007 1:18:30 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: thefactor
190 foot pole?

Close. Not quite. Off by 81'.

12 posted on 08/02/2007 1:19:33 PM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: Responsibility2nd

Well the son has his own reality show on a&e and has a huge flag inside his dealership. His son owns the number one car dealership in the world.

http://www.aetv.com/kingofcars/


13 posted on 08/02/2007 1:20:17 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Responsibility2nd

It will go down in FRHistory along with Hugh! & Series & Beeber-like device!.........


14 posted on 08/02/2007 1:20:24 PM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: thefactor

No, you meant a figantice pole.


15 posted on 08/02/2007 1:21:15 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Red Badger; al baby

Me, the next al baby?????

NOOOOooooooo!


16 posted on 08/02/2007 1:22:08 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd
Not sure if it is an advertising gimmick or not. But, here is an interesting twist: the local ACLU is actually supporting the car dealership on this one. Here is a link to the article today in the Las Vegas Review Journal:
http://www.lvrj.com/news/8869482.html
17 posted on 08/02/2007 1:22:28 PM PDT by Nevadan (nevadan)
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To: Responsibility2nd

It’s a American flag. Where’s the advertising gimmick to our flag.


18 posted on 08/02/2007 1:22:30 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: thefactor
190 foot pole? volleyball court sized flag? that seems a bit excessive. even for a hummer dealership.

For Vegas? I guess if he installed a volcano, two pirate ships and a light that could be spotted from Mars, that would be okay, but the flag isn't?

19 posted on 08/02/2007 1:22:57 PM PDT by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Look. It even is a keyword!

Is it possible we just invented a new FR vocabulary word?
20 posted on 08/02/2007 1:23:11 PM PDT by JamesP81 (Keep your friends close; keep your enemies at optimal engagement range)
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To: Responsibility2nd
A car dealership with a huge figantice US Flag??

Whoever heard of such a thing.

Most of the car dealerships I've seen in Texas have a huge American flag flying from a very tall flag pole. Some of them even have a large Texas flag to keep it company. You should also see the flags American Bank flies over each of its branches.

21 posted on 08/02/2007 1:23:15 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Red Badger

fig & ant & ice...

22 posted on 08/02/2007 1:23:24 PM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: Responsibility2nd

Maybe if he stationed a stripper at the base of the pole it would be ok.


23 posted on 08/02/2007 1:23:32 PM PDT by JZelle
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To: Clam Digger

haha, i corrected myself before you did! one post too late, my friend.


24 posted on 08/02/2007 1:24:47 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: Responsibility2nd

Figantice is even bigger than hugh!


25 posted on 08/02/2007 1:24:56 PM PDT by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: Responsibility2nd

A new word has been coined! This is a figantice day for Free Republic!


26 posted on 08/02/2007 1:25:06 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

LOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!......


27 posted on 08/02/2007 1:25:17 PM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I don’t care why he’s flying the flag. I think every American should have one.

There is too much hate for our country(and flag) these days.


28 posted on 08/02/2007 1:25:26 PM PDT by Tex Pete
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To: em2vn

Patriotism sells.

God Bless the USA and all that.

“Look at how pro-American I am. You want to buy from me, cause I fly the biggest flag.”

Stuff like that.


29 posted on 08/02/2007 1:26:05 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

They overdo just about everything in Vegas, why not the flag. The West used to be populated with people who valued freedom. But the Hate America crowd has no appreciation for being able to fly as big as flag as one can, nor do they appreciate the treasure and blood sacrificed for the right to fly that flag.


30 posted on 08/02/2007 1:26:47 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: Responsibility2nd
For some reason, unknown to me, there is a tradition among car dealerships to fly huge American flags, about the size of the original Star-Spangled Banner (30 feet by 42 feet). So, what this dealer is doing is not at all unusual.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Who's in Charge of America?"

31 posted on 08/02/2007 1:27:04 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Please visit www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: JamesP81

Only if you see this used in another thread somewhere else.

lolol

Geez, I hope not....


32 posted on 08/02/2007 1:27:59 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Red Badger

“Hugh! & Series & Beeber-like device!.........”

I adore our lovely Freeper vocabulary. I think we should always talk in code for safety purposes like spies!

Don’t forget that old standard “Thailand??” and our new favorite phrase:

“No wait, scratch that....”


33 posted on 08/02/2007 1:30:03 PM PDT by bunches (Irish people enjoy whimsical humor)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Whenever I see American flags all over a car dealership I remember Dr. Johnson’s comment that “patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel”.


34 posted on 08/02/2007 1:31:38 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: Congressman Billybob
The mitsubishi dealer across the street from my office has one about that big, no complaint from me.
35 posted on 08/02/2007 1:32:23 PM PDT by KEVLAR
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To: wideminded

Adding new tagline....


36 posted on 08/02/2007 1:33:13 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Figantice. "You know what I mean.")
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To: Congressman Billybob
alot of the car dealers here have huge flags. Ford and Hummer both have flags that would cover my house.

My little girl gets very excited when we see one on the highway, and to be honest, so do I.

I hope US flags DO bring in business. one, so that more car dealers will put them up and two, because it means there are still patriotic people out there.

37 posted on 08/02/2007 1:34:36 PM PDT by stompk
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To: bunches

I am stuned......


38 posted on 08/02/2007 1:35:03 PM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: windcliff

new freeper word ping and check out the picture.


39 posted on 08/02/2007 1:35:25 PM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: Responsibility2nd

After 9-11, I couldn’t even look at an American flag without getting all misty.

Power to this guy and his figantous flag and pole.


40 posted on 08/02/2007 1:39:58 PM PDT by wolfcreek (2 bad Tyranny, Treachery and Treason never take a vacation...)
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To: WoofDog123
hard to imagine a car salesman doesn’t consider the impact on sales of a particular gesture or 30x60 flag.

Here in Charleston, SC a dealership has a huge flag on their lot (it has been there for several years). It has become a land mark.

I wonder if the dealership can get the neighbors removed for the lound whining they are doing over this?

41 posted on 08/02/2007 1:44:36 PM PDT by submarinerswife ("If I win I can't be stopped! If I lose I shall be dead." - George S. Patton)
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To: Responsibility2nd

You need to tune ur beeber. I think it’s a bit stuned.


42 posted on 08/02/2007 1:46:26 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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"If I was convinced I was truly disturbing people, I would have taken it down a long time ago," he said.

Oh, it's disturbing people, all right, but they're lying when they say it's the noise that bothers them.

43 posted on 08/02/2007 1:47:04 PM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

LOL. This thread is too funny....


44 posted on 08/02/2007 1:52:44 PM PDT by cpanter
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To: Slings and Arrows

The birth of a new freeper term: figantice


45 posted on 08/02/2007 2:00:51 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: I Drive Too Fast

I’m going to use that word on Festivus.


46 posted on 08/02/2007 2:02:07 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: SGCOS
How did this story get out of Vegas?

LOL!

47 posted on 08/02/2007 2:08:11 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: Responsibility2nd

Now I can’t get this guy’s theme song from his A&E reality show out of my head:

(He….He-He-He He’s the king… of cars)
King of cars, baby
We dooz-it large, baby
First in the nation
And it isn’t not no mirage, baby
I got the blue genie
Need a deal, come see me
Chopper edition low pros in the in the sign teaasies
We got the dope whips
You need to come and cop ‘em
We got the low prices
Cause I chop ‘em chop ‘em
(He….He-He-He He’s the king… of cars


48 posted on 08/02/2007 2:09:39 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: Biblebelter
They overdo just about everything in Vegas, why not the flag.

I didn't think anything could be too big in Las Vegas. Outrageous is the name of the game.

49 posted on 08/02/2007 2:10:34 PM PDT by vox humana
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To: denydenydeny

I liked that show.

It had a real inside look at the seedy operations of high-pressure dealerships.

That guy - the King of Cars? He is now on my local (San Antonio) TV station on TV commercials for a local used car dealership.

I suppose he is nationwide now.... working for any dealership that will throw him a few dollars to hawk their cars.


50 posted on 08/02/2007 2:14:57 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Figantice. "You know what I mean.")
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