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Bombing Islamic sites an option: US presidential hopeful-(nuclear attack against US soil "imminent")
thenews ^ | 8/3/07 | the news

Posted on 08/02/2007 6:30:59 PM PDT by Flavius

WASHINGTON: Republican presidential hopeful Tom Tancredo says the best way he can think of to deter a nuclear terrorist attack on the US is to threaten to retaliate by bombing Islamic holy sites.

The Colorado congressman on Tuesday told about 30 people at a town hall meeting in the state of Iowa that he believes such a terrorist attack could be imminent and that the US needs to hurry up and think of a way to stop it.

“If it is up to me, we are going to explain that an attack on this homeland of that nature would be followed by an attack on the holy sites in Mecca and Medina,” Tancredo said at the Family Table restaurant.

“Because that’s the only thing I can think of that might deter somebody from doing what they otherwise might do,” Tancredo said in comments recorded and posted on the Web site iowapolitics.com.

A Washington-based Islamic civil rights and advocacy group responded in anger on Thursday, calling Tancredo’s statement “unworthy of anyone seeking public office in the United States.” “Perhaps it’s evidence of a long-shot candidate grasping at straws and trying to create some kind of a controversy that might appeal to a niche audience of anti-Muslim bigots,” said Ibrahim Hooper, spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

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1 posted on 08/02/2007 6:31:03 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: Flavius

Seems like I have heard this idea before here on this site. Like on 9/12?


2 posted on 08/02/2007 6:33:10 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Al Gore is Soylent Green!)
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To: Flavius

Dear CAIR,

The truth hurts, doesn’t it?

I don’t CARE what CAIR thinks about anything.


3 posted on 08/02/2007 6:33:16 PM PDT by bfree (liberalism is the enemy of freedom!!!)
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To: Flavius
He upset a “Islamic civil rights & advocacy group”?? Makes me love him even more.
4 posted on 08/02/2007 6:33:36 PM PDT by Millee (Tagline free since 10/20/06)
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To: Flavius

If thats how Hooper feels, Tancredo must be right.


5 posted on 08/02/2007 6:33:37 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: isthisnickcool
Seems like I have heard this idea before here on this site. Like on 9/12

It was a good idea then and is still an excellent idea now.

6 posted on 08/02/2007 6:34:46 PM PDT by bfree (liberalism is the enemy of freedom!!!)
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To: Flavius

Tancredo is exactly right. Any major attack on our soil - nuclear or otherwise - perpetrated by Islamists should be met with the annihilation of Mecca, Medina, and whatever other sites those cultist freaks consider “holy.”


7 posted on 08/02/2007 6:36:55 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo (There are four types of homicide: felonious, accidental, justifiable, and praiseworthy)
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To: Flavius
Hey, Doc Wheeler has said...much the same thing.

"For the phenomenon of Islamofascism as a whole, this must be understood as a pathological frenzy. All such frenzies are unstable. The list of ways to destabilize fragile fanatical minds is long.

Is there a suitcase nuke already secretly buried in Mecca that will vaporize Islam's most sacred shrine if America suffers another 9/11? Who knows? Maybe.

Has an experimental biofuel made with pig fat been secretly added to the world's airline fuel supplies, spreading pig fat molecules in the atmosphere of the Middle East, so impregnating the lungs of Moslem fanatics that the doors of Islamic heaven are shut to them? Maybe. Could be."

8 posted on 08/02/2007 6:37:55 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: bfree

I think we should give them an example. Then take a poll. See if they want more.


9 posted on 08/02/2007 6:40:43 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: Flavius
he believes such a terrorist attack could be imminent and that the US needs to hurry up and think of a way to stop it.

By far the best way to stop an attack is to go after the terrorists where they have their havens, which is basically the Bush doctrine (although we haven't found a way to effectively get at them in the northwest of Pakistan).

If the Rats either through control of Congress or the Presidency withdraw our efforts to mostly within our own borders, then Tancredo is right in that it will just be a matter of time before a WMD attack here. Neither the Rats nor the Chamber of Commerce Republicans have the desire to control our borders or track dangerous foreigners in the country.

10 posted on 08/02/2007 6:40:58 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: bfree

Andrew Wilkow had one of the “CAIR” jihadists on his show today-he absolutely destroyed the guy over the “queeranne in a toilet” at Pace. The guy got po’ed and hung up on Wilkow.


11 posted on 08/02/2007 6:43:10 PM PDT by mrmargaritaville
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To: Flavius
I agree with Tancredo, but Ron Paul might be opposed. Don't want to give them a reason to be mad, you know.

Okay, have I stirred things up a bit?

12 posted on 08/02/2007 6:44:30 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: Flavius

The only thing the Children of Ishmael understand is brute force. If it’s at all possible for them to “respect” anything, it’s that.

The only question is, does this nation have the testicular fortitude to actually DO that, should something terrible happen to us at the hands of the Mohammedans?

Honestly, I don’t think we do. The 5th Column will see to that.


13 posted on 08/02/2007 6:47:50 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow (FR Member ItsOurTimeNow: Declared Anathema by the Council of Trent)
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To: Flavius

One our greatest Crusaders against the Cult of Hate and Intolerance is Robert Spencer and CAIR has him in their sights. CAIR is currently trying to put pressure on colleges and universities to revoke his various invitations to speak.
Nobody in our country understands or speaks out against the muslims as much as Robert Spencer.


14 posted on 08/02/2007 6:54:45 PM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: isthisnickcool
Seems like I have heard this idea before here on this site. Like on 9/12?

Yeah, crazy stuff. Your plan to send Al Qaeda a stern letter of rebuke after a U.S. city gets nuked is a much more sensitive and open-minded approach.

15 posted on 08/02/2007 6:57:53 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Flavius

Imminent nuclear attack? Yawn.

If moos had nukes, they’d have blown their wad already.


16 posted on 08/02/2007 6:59:00 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: Flavius

Hmmmmmm perhaps Tancredo is right, it certainly got a reaction. Why the the Islamists be upset were he not right. They would simply say that it wouldn’t work.


17 posted on 08/02/2007 7:00:21 PM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: shield
That is how Pershing handled these extremists in WW1. He executed the group, one by one, and made sure they watched as the bullets were dipped in pigs blood. If I remember correctly he poured it over them after they died as well, but not sure bout that. (I have the story on my PC somewhere)
18 posted on 08/02/2007 7:09:35 PM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: Flavius
I think that threatening to obliterate Muslim holy sites is the stupidest thing I ever heard. What would all 2 billion Muslims do, then? Convert to Hinduism, knit, watch TV?

It certainly would not make them back down and offer an olive branch.

Think back a couple thousand years- Rome was tired of a particular religious rabble rouser, and they handled it by torturing him to death in public. His followers scattered and continued to preach their messiah’s words, and eventually Rome officially converted to this new religion.

Nuking the K’abbah would be an event of Biblical proportions; one that would never ever be forgotten, and it would become the central point of focus for a billion people who were not polarized before the event.

Don’t forget, the holiest thing in the K’abbah is a piece of fused sand (from a meteor strike). It’s not very big. A 20 MT groundpounder would make a huge area of fused sand- tens of thousands of times bigger than the piece that’s there now. That’s big enough that every mosque in the world could have one- Trinitite on a wholesale level.

19 posted on 08/02/2007 7:10:21 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
Ishmael

"Behold, you are with child, and shall bear a son; you shall call his name Ishmael; because The Lord has given heed to your affliction. He shall be a wild ass of a man, his hand against every man and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell over against all his kinsmen." (Genesis 16:11-12 RSV).

20 posted on 08/02/2007 7:20:36 PM PDT by Socratic (“Worry does not empty tomorrow of its sorrow; it empties today of its strength.” - Corrie Ten Boom)
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To: Flavius; zencat

Alright folks . . . let’s get real here. Would we nuke the Vatican for the actions of a group of Marxist crazed Liberation Theology priests??? All this would do is piss off A-L-L Muslims, ( both the Islamofacists and Moderates ) , you’d be turning people who are currently our allies, ( those who have lived under Sharia law and hated it ) into our enemies. Think these things through just a L-I-T-T-L-E B-I-T ! ! !


21 posted on 08/02/2007 7:21:17 PM PDT by GravityFree (Death is not the end, nor the beginning of the end, but only the end of the beginning.)
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To: Junior_G
Your plan to send Al Qaeda a stern letter of rebuke after a U.S. city gets nuked is a much more sensitive and open-minded approach.

?? My plan??

22 posted on 08/02/2007 7:23:45 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Al Gore is Soylent Green!)
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To: Socratic

“A wild ass of a man” is putting it lightly, but an effective description


23 posted on 08/02/2007 7:27:33 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow (FR Member ItsOurTimeNow: Declared Anathema by the Council of Trent)
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To: GravityFree

No Muslim is by fiat by All.h an ‘ally’ of any infidel, etc..a lack of an appropriate very definitive response will doom the victim always to the wishes of this particular perpetrator. The third and greatest jihad in history has been in growing progress since 1979..the only opponent is a certain Constitutional Republic (for a while yet) that remains as their sole possible effective opponent, and, I am wondering if that nation is wavering...non-Churchillian thought this time virtually guarantees defeat...Churchill has just been removed from the ‘high school history’ curriculum in a rapidly Islamizing Britain...eom


24 posted on 08/02/2007 7:28:11 PM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: GravityFree

No Muslim is by fiat by All.h an ‘ally’ of any infidel, etc..a lack of an appropriate very definitive response will doom the victim always to the wishes of this particular perpetrator. The third and greatest jihad in history has been in growing progress since 1979..the only opponent is a certain Constitutional Republic (for a while yet) that remains as their sole possible effective opponent, and, I am wondering if that nation is wavering...non-Churchillian thought this time virtually guarantees defeat...Churchill has just been removed from the ‘high school history’ curriculum in a rapidly Islamizing Britain...eom


25 posted on 08/02/2007 7:28:26 PM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: Flavius

The Hoopster has been busy this week. That’s S-CAIR-Y.


26 posted on 08/02/2007 7:30:58 PM PDT by BigFinn
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To: shield
So that's what those "chem-trails" are.
27 posted on 08/02/2007 7:33:58 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: givemELL; zencat

During WWII we did not nuke Tokyo or the Japanese Imperial Palace ! ! ! We nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki which were both centers of industrial production and important military bases. It would have made far more sense to nuke Tora-Bora than to nuke Mecca and Median at some point in the future.


28 posted on 08/02/2007 7:36:25 PM PDT by GravityFree (Death is not the end, nor the beginning of the end, but only the end of the beginning.)
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To: Flavius
I don’t think holding Mecca hostage is gonna deter bin Laden & co. one bit. They want a global war between Islam & everybody else, & blasting Mecca might just start one.

Tancredo would do better to threaten Riyadh, Tehran, Islamabad, Damascus, etc. with destruction in retaliation for a WMD attack in the USA. These are the people who are supporting the terrorists, & have the most to lose if it comes to that.

Also, by threatening Mecca, Tancredo as president, is effectively declaring war on islam, so why not outlaw islam as a satanic cult, & expel the muslims in our midst who are the prime source of terrorism in this country. This would do far more to block domestic terrorism than simply threatening Mecca, & be a huge setback for the caliphate & jihad - much like Spain (Andalusia) in 1491. And for good measure, we could expel the Palestinians from Gaza & the West Bank - Palestinian statehood problem solved. If we’re gonna PO the muzzies, might as well do it right.

29 posted on 08/02/2007 7:38:11 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: gidget7
Wrong war, and there is no historical evidence that your Pershing solution is anything other than an Urban myth cycled though the Internet every few months by folks who think they just discovered it.
30 posted on 08/02/2007 7:40:15 PM PDT by ASA Vet (http://www.rinorepublic.com)
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To: bfree
Correct -- not exactly a new idea...


31 posted on 08/02/2007 7:40:19 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Flavius

A little common sense. What’s going on?


32 posted on 08/02/2007 7:40:43 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Mohamed was not a moderate Muslim)
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To: BenLurkin

It’s all about messin’ with their minds...Doc Wheeler says it’s easy...hope we’re doin’ it...in the ME...


33 posted on 08/02/2007 7:42:34 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Flavius

I’d go for a preemptive strike


34 posted on 08/02/2007 7:44:34 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: shield

Yes.

Did you know that using a cell phone causes the male member to shrivel?


35 posted on 08/02/2007 7:45:31 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Flavius

I agree.

Maybe Tancredo lurks on FreeRepublic. ;^)


36 posted on 08/02/2007 7:47:48 PM PDT by airborne (ATTENTION PA FREEPERS !! https://contribute.gohunter08.com/contribute.asp)
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To: GravityFree
“During WWII we did not nuke Tokyo “

We used conventional incendiaries and HE gravity bombs in March 1945. We vaporized the center of Tokyo- 17 square miles turned to ash and rubble- and killed over 100,000 civilians. Estimates are still hazy- I read numbers between 80,000 and 200,000. More people were killed by LeMays’ firestorm than at Hiroshima.

Oh yeah we spared Tokyo!

37 posted on 08/02/2007 7:49:06 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

In the end, only one person has the final authority on nukes—the POTUS. Everyone else is just uselessly exercising their piehole on the subject.


38 posted on 08/02/2007 7:49:22 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: GravityFree
It would have made far more sense to nuke Tora-Bora than to nuke Mecca and Median at some point in the future.

Where do I forward my application for the targeting committee?

But it’s not so much the reason they need it, it’s more the size of the yield that concerns me.

39 posted on 08/02/2007 7:49:43 PM PDT by zencat (The universe is not what it appears, nor is it something else.)
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To: Mister Da
>"why not outlaw islam as a satanic cult, & expel the muslims in our midst who are the prime source of terrorism in this country."

Sounds like a good start. I wouldn't rule out turning the entire ME into a glow in the dark glass parking lot! It might be the only way to purge the earth of satanallahs mohamicidal maniacs!

40 posted on 08/02/2007 7:55:15 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist
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To: BenLurkin

Oh my.... ;o)


41 posted on 08/02/2007 8:01:00 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: bfree

Agreed.


42 posted on 08/02/2007 8:02:21 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: DBrow
Oh yeah we spared Tokyo!

I understand the point, however that took thousands of raids, instead of a single ordinance of a completely different caliber.
43 posted on 08/02/2007 8:03:42 PM PDT by zencat (The universe is not what it appears, nor is it something else.)
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To: isthisnickcool

I’ve offered that solution several times myself.


44 posted on 08/02/2007 8:05:42 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: TXnMA; Flavius; bfree; ItsOurTimeNow; zencat; givemELL

Let’s try another example: Suppose the Aryan Nation boys manage to hijack a Minuteman warhead up there in Montana and somehow or other they manage to get it to Red Square and detonate it ( all 335 kilotons ). Would it really be in Vladimir Putin’s best interest to nuke Jerusalem and Rome because they are sacred to Christianity ???

To DBrow: I’m fully aware of Lemay’s fire bombing of Tokyo. I was just trying to make a point without going into detailed history.


45 posted on 08/02/2007 8:06:27 PM PDT by GravityFree (Death is not the end, nor the beginning of the end, but only the end of the beginning.)
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To: Flavius

Actually you know, you wouldn’t even have to drop a explosive device, you just use another kind of bomb on their Holy Sites.

You go to Jimmy Dean, Zeigler, and any other ‘sausage’ company and tell them you need blood, hooves, snots, ears ect, and a big ol cargo plane and you drop it all, all over the places.

If they wish to defile America, you defile them right back.

And the sausage companies could get a tax break for their contribution.

Ham steaks a la Mecca.

And do it every day for several days.

They’d go stark raving crazy.


46 posted on 08/02/2007 8:07:42 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Flavius
A Washington-based Islamic civil rights and advocacy group responded in anger on Thursday, calling Tancredo’s statement “unworthy of anyone seeking public office in the United States.” “Perhaps it’s evidence of a long-shot candidate grasping at straws and trying to create some kind of a controversy that might appeal to a niche audience of anti-Muslim bigots,” said Ibrahim Hooper, spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

Ummmm, he did get their attention...

47 posted on 08/02/2007 8:07:52 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Mr. Mojo

Tancredo is completely wrong. The US isn’t going to nuke innocents, even if we take a nuclear hit.


48 posted on 08/02/2007 8:08:53 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("Lord, give me chastity and temperance, but not now." - St. Augustine)
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To: Shadowstrike

Sausage falling from the sky? I’d be in near heaven.


49 posted on 08/02/2007 8:09:38 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: Mr. Mojo

If we are attacked en masse by more islamic terrorists on our soil, I say put our biggest atomic bomb right down the throat of Mecca and then tell the Muslims of this world...pray for peace and beg big-time for forgiveness...and we will think about it before we unleash the next 16,999 atomic bombs on your miserable @sses!


50 posted on 08/02/2007 8:11:02 PM PDT by Stayfree (*************************Get your copy of The Fred Factor by David Gill at Capitol Hill Comedy.com)
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