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Tighter gun-buy checks advance - Response to Tech tragedy hopes to block criminals, mentally ill...
RICHMOND TIMES-DISPATCH ^ | Aug 03, 2007 | PETER HARDIN

Posted on 08/03/2007 11:43:50 AM PDT by neverdem

Edited on 08/03/2007 5:19:50 PM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON -- Two weeks before students return to classes at Virginia Tech, a Senate panel voted yesterday to strengthen the national instant background-check system for gun buyers.

Responding to the Virginia Tech massacre, the Senate Judiciary Committee voted unanimously to advance a measure aimed at closing gaps in the national background-check system.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 110th; backgroundcheck; banglist; vatech
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1 posted on 08/03/2007 11:43:54 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

If he is sane enough to be allowed on the streets....he is sane enough to buy a gun, is he not? If he is THAT dangerous, shouldn’t he be locked up? After all....he may go for a knife...or a box-cutter.


2 posted on 08/03/2007 11:52:38 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: 2harddrive

More caving by the NRA


3 posted on 08/03/2007 12:14:56 PM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: neverdem
"Obviously there is no magic congressional response that will be guaranteed to prevent another horrific school tragedy," said Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick J. Leahy, D-Vt

"but we're not gonna let that stop us and are spending like hell so we look good," he should have continued.

4 posted on 08/03/2007 12:22:21 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Brian J. Marotta, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub, (1948-2007) Rest In Peace, our FRiend)
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To: tiger-one
A spokesman for the National Rifle Association, Andrew Arulanandam, said his organization continues to "be supportive of the legislation that would add the names of those adjudicated as mentally defective to the national instant check list."

"More caving by the NRA"

How so? Seems to me that the grabbers just lost the NRA's support. We shall see, but someone dropping a dime, i.e. "tip lines about potentially dangerous students," is hardly an adjudication. It reminds me of Lautenberg's S. 1237 which would enable the Attorney General to designate anyone as a terrorist to deny an OK by NICS.

5 posted on 08/03/2007 12:32:47 PM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem
I think that we will end up with a stupid system that will any arbitrary medical or governmental entity to permanently bar any one person from owning firearms simply by declaring that person to be "mentally unfit."

I believe that the NRA is wrong to support on this bill.

A spokesman for the National Rifle Association, Andrew Arulanandam, said his organization continues to "be supportive of the legislation that would add the names of those adjudicated as mentally defective to the national instant check list."

I agree with the Liberty Coalition and Gun Owners of America that this is a horrendously bad idea.

From a letter (it's in Word format) they have published: “Action to retroactively label people mentally defective without notice and a hearing is a violation of basic fundamental fairness and due process. Further, now declaring persons who in the past voluntarily submitted to mental health evaluation and/or treatment as mentally defective would deter people from seeking mental health assistance in the future. Finally, millions of Americans and veterans who might have undergone post-combat zone counseling or other treatment could find themselves unknowingly in violation of federal gun laws, or, lose their security clearance or employment.”

6 posted on 08/03/2007 12:44:59 PM PDT by snowsislander (NRA)
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To: tiger-one

Whenever a tragedy like VT happens, you can count on ‘Rat knee-jerk responses and the NRA being stupid enough to think that the ‘Rats will be satisfied with the latest new restrictions.


7 posted on 08/03/2007 1:13:17 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ...
I note that the same $400 million dollars that the dems are happy to spend to infringe our God-given freedoms is the same amount they want to slice from the Airborne Laser (ABL) program, a much worthier endeavor, IMHO.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

8 posted on 08/03/2007 1:37:22 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: neverdem

Will Jorge sign it???


9 posted on 08/03/2007 1:40:16 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Joe Brower

The citizens are more of a threat than the North Koreans right now I guess. I’m sure Richardson has assurances.


10 posted on 08/03/2007 1:45:43 PM PDT by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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To: neverdem
Odd Angry Shot: Who Killed Our Kids - by John Conner

/jasper

11 posted on 08/03/2007 1:55:08 PM PDT by Jasper (To hell with the "devil you know" - shoot 'em both!)
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To: snowsislander
After Clinton did the same thing to over 90,000 vets in 1998, Congress passed a law that I think GW signed stating that the VA Hospitals are specifically prohibited from submitting any info on a patients mental health to any federal or state law enforcement agency absent a judges ruling. The law apparently has considerable teeth in the form of monetary relief to victims. That's what I was told by the Miami VA a couple of years ago. I forget the name of the laws that were hooked together.
12 posted on 08/03/2007 2:16:03 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: snowsislander
The NRA is ABSOLUTELY on the wrong side of this issue.

A spokesman for the National Rifle Association, Andrew Arulanandam, said his organization continues to "be supportive of the legislation that would add the names of those adjudicated as mentally defective to the national instant check list."

Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, applauded the Senate committee.

Second Amendment Sisters have opposed this from the beginning. I can't believe that the NRA is on the same side as the "brady bunch" on this! The NRA has become "mentally defective". I stopped supporting the NRA a long time ago.

13 posted on 08/03/2007 2:22:13 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: neverdem

So they simply declare us all insane.


14 posted on 08/03/2007 2:31:20 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Joe Brower

It’ll be very reasonable at first, and will grow to become a monster, with govt. commissar’s blocking millions from being able to buy or own guns.

If we haven’t learned this by now.....


15 posted on 08/03/2007 2:31:46 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: ZULU

Does Hillary have rabies?


16 posted on 08/03/2007 2:32:30 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: 2harddrive
he may go for a knife

Funny thing about knives - they never run out of ammunition.

17 posted on 08/03/2007 2:37:12 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: neverdem

If they want a gun, they’ll find a way to find one.


18 posted on 08/03/2007 2:52:55 PM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings - Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime)
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To: tiger-one
More caving by the NRA

Surrendering is what the NRA does best. They especially like pre-emptive surrender where they give up without ever having fought so they can say they didn't lose. Well technically they didn't, but the end result is the same.

19 posted on 08/03/2007 3:30:45 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

If your gun group is so good at accomplishing something, why don’t they stop this legislation?

I already know the answer to that but I’m interested in your opinion.


20 posted on 08/03/2007 3:48:15 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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