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NYC Man Cited for 1775 Submarine
ABC News ^ | August 3, 2007 | DAVID SCHOETZ

Posted on 08/03/2007 5:34:17 PM PDT by libstripper

A man in a Revolutionary War-era submarine was cited by the U.S. Coast Guard for drifting into a security zone, and for unsafe sailing in New York's East River near the Queen Mary 2 luxury liner, the Coast Guard and New York City Police Department said Friday.

The man in the replica vessel was identified as 35-year-old Philip "Duke" Riley of Brooklyn, N.Y., according to Coast Guard spokesman Petty Officer Seth Johnson.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: eastriver; nyc; submarine; submersible; turtle; wot
The Revolutionary War submarine in question was the Turtle, a vessel shaped somewhat like an elongated egg with a manually operated propeller at the bow. It carried a bomb containing about 100 pounds of black powder on its back and a screw device to attach the bomb to the bottom of an an enemy ship's hull. It failed in its first and only mission because the operator tried unsuccessfully to run the screw through the copper sheathing on the hull of a British warship. However, the Turtle avoided the Hunley's fate in that it safely returned to its dock. IIRC that was the first time a submarine was employed in combat.
1 posted on 08/03/2007 5:34:19 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

I love it! The turtle was re-enacted? The geek in me salutes the guy.


2 posted on 08/03/2007 5:36:51 PM PDT by doodad
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To: libstripper

Probably cited for no running lights or life preservers...


3 posted on 08/03/2007 5:37:23 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Doohickey; judicial meanz; submarinerswife; PogySailor; chasio649; gobucks; Bottom_Gun; Dog Gone; ..
Bushnell-wannabe ping!

Well, I'm impressed!

4 posted on 08/03/2007 5:39:28 PM PDT by SmithL (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: libstripper

Probably no license plate.


5 posted on 08/03/2007 5:43:39 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dutchy; Yehuda

re-enactment ping


6 posted on 08/03/2007 5:44:06 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: tet68
"Probably cited for no running lights or life preservers..."

I hope he wasn't smoking on board or he'll get another citation.

7 posted on 08/03/2007 5:45:49 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

Probably ran over a manatee.


8 posted on 08/03/2007 5:47:39 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: libstripper

Was Ron Paul inside?


9 posted on 08/03/2007 5:51:40 PM PDT by rhombus
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To: libstripper
The man in the replica vessel was identified as 35-year-old Philip "Duke" Riley of Brooklyn, N.Y.,

Hope all the ten foil hat crowd on the earlier thread see this guys name.

10 posted on 08/03/2007 5:52:55 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: libstripper
Declaring a revolution and attempting to overthrow King George is frowned upon now.
11 posted on 08/03/2007 5:53:05 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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To: doodad

It’s a sad day when “joe average” gets a creative idea, acts upon it, and then gets sited with tickets out the wazoo.....

Good for him though, the Turtle was man powered and very green as it had foxfire inside to light the interior compartment.

Sure that it wasn’t Al Gore in there?


12 posted on 08/03/2007 5:56:49 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: doodad

It’s a sad day when “joe average” gets a creative idea, acts upon it, and then gets sited with tickets out the wazoo.....

Good for him though, the Turtle was man powered and very green as it had foxfire inside to light the interior compartment.

Sure that it wasn’t Al Gore in there?


13 posted on 08/03/2007 5:56:49 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: org.whodat

I’m sure that George Noory and Art Bell will qualify this incident as an alien invasion... I was listening to their show a few days ago and Noory was saying that the Earth is hollow and that near the North Pole there’s an entrance for alien aircraft...

Weirdo’s.


14 posted on 08/03/2007 5:57:06 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (I'm Puerto Rican, but I ain't no "Welfare Queen"!)
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To: libstripper

That is too cool.

Maybe he should have included the 100 lb. black powder “torpedo” and made the voyage worth the trouble.


15 posted on 08/03/2007 6:02:28 PM PDT by EricT. (The tree of liberty needs to be watered...)
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To: libstripper

OMG! Somebody actually posted a picture of the Turtle in an earlier thread. Reality follows satire?


16 posted on 08/03/2007 6:05:34 PM PDT by tanuki (u)
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To: tet68

Oh, the hewed Manatee!


17 posted on 08/03/2007 6:08:09 PM PDT by Erasmus (My simplifying explanation had the disconcerting side effect of making the subject incomprehensible.)
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To: padre35
It’s a sad day when “joe average” gets a creative idea, acts upon it, and then gets sited with tickets out the wazoo....

He was an idiot for launching it where he did.

18 posted on 08/03/2007 6:09:10 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: KarlInOhio

That’s “GR” to you, mere peasant! GR stands for...

GEORGICUS REX!

You are not expected to grasp latin though, givin your inferior stock.

btw, don’t forget to pay your tea tax you insolent tramp!


19 posted on 08/03/2007 6:10:42 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: libstripper
He's got an interesting web site:

www.dukeriley.info

20 posted on 08/03/2007 6:13:04 PM PDT by katnip
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To: Erasmus
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
21 posted on 08/03/2007 6:16:58 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Nothing is better than eternal happiness. A ham sandwich is better than nothing. Therefore...)
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To: Moonman62

“Idiot”?

Yeah probably, but what do you want, more then likely the current took them into the vicinity of the QE2.

IMO, he should have been warned and towed out of the area with tresspasing charges if the Turtle made it back into the region.


22 posted on 08/03/2007 6:48:48 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: Peanut Gallery; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; alfa6; Iris7; Valin

ping


23 posted on 08/03/2007 7:03:49 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (Postal?? You ain't seen nothing until you've seen someone Go Engineer.)
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To: katnip

http://dukeriley.info/

It’s not a www, I guess, couldn’t get your link to work, so I googled this link.

And you’re right...it is interesting (if that’s the right word, LOL.)


24 posted on 08/03/2007 7:06:29 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: Professional Engineer

pong :-)

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


25 posted on 08/03/2007 7:18:45 PM PDT by alfa6
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To: libstripper

A man in a Revolutionary War-era submarine

In another article it was a wwII era submarine. Do these reporters know anything?


26 posted on 08/03/2007 7:26:04 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: dawn53
From the link you provided:

"From 1992 to 1997, I lived and worked in an 8 by 10 foot pigeon coop constructed out of a widow's walk on the roof of an old dilapidated building in Providence, RI. I shared the space with both domestic and street pigeons. A series of assemblages made with materials collected directly from the site and some photo documentation are all that remains of, what I now regard as my first conceptual performative and multimedia project. To this day, I continue to build functioning pigeon coops as sculptural gestures on the landscape, and to include images of birds in my work."

What a freak. Five years in the pigeon poop...

LINK


27 posted on 08/03/2007 7:26:39 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 ... Go ahead, look it up!)
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To: DocRock
I totally agree..quite bizarre. I found his mission statement interesting...just not quite sure what he means.

My work addresses the prospect of residual but forgotten unclaimed frontiers on the edge and inside overdeveloped urban areas, and their unsuspected autonomy. I am interested in the struggle of marginal peoples to sustain independent spaces within all-encompassing societies, the tension between individual and collective behavior, the conflict with institutional power.

28 posted on 08/03/2007 7:34:20 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: DocRock
"A series of assemblages made with materials collected directly from the site..."

IOW, his artistic medium was pigeon guano.

"What a Freak" indeed!

29 posted on 08/03/2007 7:59:55 PM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD -"What would Jack Bauer do?")
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To: dawn53

Thanks for the correct link. My HTML skills are rusty :-)

I love his Dead Horse Inn project. Sounds like fun!


30 posted on 08/03/2007 8:21:48 PM PDT by katnip
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To: dawn53

I think he has in mind things like the homeless living in remote crannies of the subway tunnels. At one time I believe there was a regular little community of them down there, living in truly horrendous conditions. I think they got rooted out when they started to gain attention.


31 posted on 08/03/2007 8:48:08 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: SmithL; Doohickey

Are you a turtle?


32 posted on 08/03/2007 9:22:48 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: BIGLOOK

You bet your sweet @ss I @m.


33 posted on 08/03/2007 9:30:12 PM PDT by SmithL (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: DocRock
"Five years in the pigeon poop"

Well, it was the Clinton years...

34 posted on 08/03/2007 9:30:16 PM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: org.whodat

yeah, Phil instead of Ahkmed.


35 posted on 08/03/2007 9:33:01 PM PDT by isom35
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To: libstripper
Reminds me of the movie "Down Periscope".


36 posted on 08/03/2007 10:18:11 PM PDT by capt. norm (Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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To: SmithL
Drinking to that, Smitty!


37 posted on 08/03/2007 10:20:35 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: tet68
Probably cited for no running lights or life preservers...

You're close. The Coast Guard issued two citations - one for having an unsafe vessel, the other for violating a security zone. Then the city got involved and got him for reckless operation of a craft and towing in a reckless manner.

I'm sure other citations are pending.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070804/ap_on_re_us/nyc_submarine

38 posted on 08/03/2007 11:20:39 PM PDT by scott7278 (Free soil, free labor, free speech, free men!)
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To: KarlInOhio
Declaring a revolution and attempting to overthrow King George is frowned upon now.

Indeed, and attaching the bomb to the QM II would be even harder than the Turtle's first effort.

39 posted on 08/04/2007 5:17:04 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

If it can be done its a possibility that terrorists can do it, think of an all wood and non ferrous disposable sub on a one way mission to attach itself like a sea lamphrey upon an ultra large tanker or LNG vessel. And all made from available hardware from Home Depot and a NAPA parts store.
No war is ever won by being defensive, we must become ever more offensive and strike at the heart of terrorism, cut their heart out and destroy their desire to want to rule the world.
My rant of terrorism and this article is a little off the wall and slanted but just think about it now and hopefully not after an event when we are all scratching our heads trying to figure out if a major disaster was terror related or expertly disguised as an accident of design or flaws in the structure etc.


40 posted on 08/04/2007 5:30:21 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: EricT.

I doubt there is enough black powder in all of America to blow up all of the idiotic bureaucrats, and other assorted, sordid socialism hangers on, now greedily feeding at the gooberment troughs.

Therefore, since the powder box (cartridge box) is too small, just as the Founders thought might happen, there is the soap box and the ballot box in November, 2008.

We are all on a journey. Whether towards a Republic or towards socialism is the question.

Time to seize the helm, as the “Ship of State”, so to speak, is wallowing without a helmsman.

The “New Media” is the soap box of our day. Indeed, it may prove to be the reason that the cartridge box will not be needed. Given the realities of a ‘wired world’, crooks & commies can be exposed easily and their evil deeds shown to all.

Now that cell phones are de facto camcorders, the evil deeds are easy to publish. And, with the Internet, something unconceivable to the Founders has occurred.

In the Founders era, they knew that “’freedom of the press’ belongs to he who owns one”. With the Internet and camcorders/cell phones, anyone can exercise and enjoy ‘freedom of the press’.

Extra! Extra! “Watch the Lil’ Bachelor’s Child”! “Watch What He Did”!

The Eyes Of The Pajama Brigade Are Upon You.

;-)


41 posted on 08/04/2007 6:08:05 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: GladesGuru

Why was the reconstructed Turtle launched in New York Harbor? Because the first one was launched there! ! !

Please note that the first launch was a failure, as was this one. BUT, in both cases, fear was created by the failure.

Who says history does not repeat if we don’t learn from it.

Here’s a link of interest, especially as th sub project came from an individual, and the project was not ‘supported’ by a huge Federal grant:
http://www.oldsaybrook.k12.ct.us/HSWebsite/Turtle_Webpage/Turtle.html


42 posted on 08/04/2007 6:19:56 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: libstripper

Being ABC News, you can count on something in the story to be incorrect. In this instance, the headline is incorrect. The Turtle was built in 1776, not 1775.


43 posted on 08/04/2007 6:54:44 AM PDT by CivilWarguy (CivilWarGuy)
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To: Professional Engineer

LOL. Good story and great thread comments! Gotta love FReepers. :-)


44 posted on 08/10/2007 10:52:44 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: dawn53

It means he’s interested in homeless squatters sticking it to The Man.


45 posted on 08/10/2007 10:57:16 PM PDT by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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