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China tells living Buddhas to obtain permission before they reincarnate
Times Online ^ | August 4, 2007 | Jane Macartney in Beijing

Posted on 08/04/2007 8:46:01 AM PDT by jrg

Tibet’s living Buddhas have been banned from reincarnation without permission from China’s atheist leaders. The ban is included in new rules intended to assert Beijing’s authority over Tibet’s restive and deeply Buddhist people.

“The so-called reincarnated living Buddha without government approval is illegal and invalid,” according to the order, which comes into effect on September 1.

The 14-part regulation issued by the State Administration for Religious Affairs is aimed at limiting the influence of Tibet’s exiled god-king, the Dalai Lama, and at preventing the re-incarnation of the 72-year-old monk without approval from Beijing.

It is the latest in a series of measures by the Communist authorities to tighten their grip over Tibet. Reincarnate lamas, known as tulkus, often lead religious communities and oversee the training of monks, giving them enormous influence over religious life in the Himalayan region. Anyone outside China is banned from taking part in the process of seeking and recognising a living Buddha, effectively excluding the Dalai Lama, who traditionally can play an important role in giving recognition to candidate reincarnates.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: buddha; china; reincarnation; religion
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.....How can they be so ignorant? (ig'nert as we say in Alabama).

Guess they'll have to be edited by the Chinese first
1 posted on 08/04/2007 8:46:05 AM PDT by jrg
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To: jrg

Communists are funny sometimes. How the heck do they expect to convert the whole population to atheism while claiming to be in control of reincarnation?


2 posted on 08/04/2007 8:48:37 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: jrg
permission from China’s atheist leaders

Funny stuff. Atheists denying atheists the right to reincarnate.

3 posted on 08/04/2007 8:49:51 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: jrg

Next Jesus’s Second Coming and the Resurrection will have to have the proper permits filled out in advance with prior approval.


4 posted on 08/04/2007 8:50:01 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rear view mirror.)
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To: BipolarBob

-what they don’t tolerate illegal immigrants there?


5 posted on 08/04/2007 8:51:05 AM PDT by tioga
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To: jrg

“..obtain permission before they reincarnate..”

Now, that is what I call clout.


6 posted on 08/04/2007 8:51:45 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: RightWhale
Funny stuff. Atheists denying atheists the right to reincarnate?

More like atheists denying heathens/pagans the right to reincarnate....................

7 posted on 08/04/2007 8:51:46 AM PDT by Red Badger (All I know about Minnesota, I learned from Garrison Keilor.............)
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To: Red Badger

Pagans have gods.


8 posted on 08/04/2007 8:53:18 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

It’s my karma and I’ll reincarnate if I want to......../leslie Gore music.......


9 posted on 08/04/2007 8:53:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (All I know about Minnesota, I learned from Garrison Keilor.............)
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To: RightWhale

So don’t Bhuddists?.....


10 posted on 08/04/2007 8:53:56 AM PDT by Red Badger (All I know about Minnesota, I learned from Garrison Keilor.............)
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To: Red Badger

No, it’s blasphemous.


11 posted on 08/04/2007 8:55:20 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: jrg

This reads like something from The Onion.


12 posted on 08/04/2007 8:55:27 AM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: jrg
I initially thought this was from the Onion. It should be, lol.

5.56mm

13 posted on 08/04/2007 8:56:23 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: BipolarBob
Next Jesus's Second Coming and the Resurrection will have to have the proper permits filled out in advance with prior approval.

I wonder what the environmental impact statement would look like. Does the EPA have regulations concerning this???

14 posted on 08/04/2007 8:56:34 AM PDT by teacherwoes ("It is vain to expect a well-balanced government without a well-balanced society" -Gideon Welles)
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To: jrg

I get it... Communism OWNS reincarnation also.. BRILLIENT!...


15 posted on 08/04/2007 8:58:08 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: jrg

When government chooses your God, your government is your God.


16 posted on 08/04/2007 8:58:48 AM PDT by Lexington Green (Remember when Hispanics were White?)
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To: RightWhale

What/who is Buddah, then? Chopped Liver?.......


17 posted on 08/04/2007 9:01:37 AM PDT by Red Badger (All I know about Minnesota, I learned from Garrison Keilor.............)
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To: BipolarBob

In China’s legal Christian churches, they leave out Revelation in their Bibles. I guess they don’t think that Jesus will really return.

This action is proof that atheistic governments are a religion unto themselves, and act as such.


18 posted on 08/04/2007 9:03:15 AM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: Lexington Green

What is the difference between Hillary! and God?................God doesn’t think He’s Hillary!...........


19 posted on 08/04/2007 9:03:15 AM PDT by Red Badger (All I know about Minnesota, I learned from Garrison Keilor.............)
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To: Red Badger

The Buddha is a man. The original one was a man and all subsequent ones are men. Don’t know if wimmin are allowed to be the Buddha, maybe somebody can answer that one.


20 posted on 08/04/2007 9:04:00 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: hosepipe
I get it... Communism OWNS reincarnation also.. BRILLIENT!...

They also invented it.

21 posted on 08/04/2007 9:05:04 AM PDT by liege
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To: RightWhale

I am Buddah. You are Buddah. We are Buddah.........OMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM................oMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM,,,,,,,,,


22 posted on 08/04/2007 9:07:15 AM PDT by Red Badger (All I know about Minnesota, I learned from Garrison Keilor.............)
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To: TruthConquers
China’s legal Christian churches

China's legal churches are not true churches. Check it out yourself at Voice of the Martyrs and while you're there sign up for the free newsletter. It will change your life!

23 posted on 08/04/2007 9:09:48 AM PDT by Former Fetus
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To: Former Fetus

Thank you, I already read Voice of the Martyr’s. That is why I specified “legal”. May God bless the real church in China and strengthen her.


24 posted on 08/04/2007 9:13:10 AM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: jrg

I am laughing uncontrollably right now.


25 posted on 08/04/2007 9:14:55 AM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: jrg

Is there a form to fill out?


26 posted on 08/04/2007 9:16:56 AM PDT by P.O.E. (School's Out. Drive Safely)
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To: liege
I get it... Communism OWNS reincarnation also.. BRILLIENT!... They also invented it.

Naw, algore invented it....at least I expect this revelation any second now....

Brilliant move by the communists. Disbelieve, forbid, and threaten, cheat if necessary (LOL)....the communists must be copying our democrats.

27 posted on 08/04/2007 9:17:05 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes.)
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To: M Kehoe; Numbers Guy

The Onion’s satire is usually a lot more plausible than this. I thought it had to be some Onion wannabee.


28 posted on 08/04/2007 9:19:44 AM PDT by magslinger (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors. And miss. R.A.Heinlein)
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To: jrg
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29 posted on 08/04/2007 9:48:36 AM PDT by lesser_satan (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: jrg
I must need more caffeine because when I read this

Reincarnate lamas, known as tulkus, often lead religious communities and oversee the training of monks, giving them enormous influence over religious life in the Himalayan region.

the image if a Llama appeared in my mind. I pondered what type of training does a llama provide for the monks??? lol

30 posted on 08/04/2007 9:49:26 AM PDT by JesusBmyGod (1 Corinthians 2:5)
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"I pondered what type of training does a llama provide for the monks??? lol"

How to spit.

31 posted on 08/04/2007 10:00:07 AM PDT by Pablo64 (Ask me about my alpacas!)
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To: jrg

Saw the headline and thought it may have been from The Onion


32 posted on 08/04/2007 10:01:11 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.youtube.com/cafenetamerica)
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To: jrg

I guess next they will ban the Catholic Church from transubstantiation—the literal turning of the wine and bread into the body and blood of Christ during the Mass.


33 posted on 08/04/2007 10:08:07 AM PDT by Burkean
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To: jrg
preventing the re-incarnation of the 72-year-old monk without approval from Beijing.

If it was me, I'd try reincarnating in a "Buddhist protection program", kinda like the secret town in a "witness protection program" they have here......not even the Mafia can find ya.

34 posted on 08/04/2007 10:21:53 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (If your cat was big enough it would probably eat you)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Actually, the Vatican does that. There is at least one Chinese cardinal who has not been announced. I forget the Latin phrase for it it but it means, I think something like, “kept close to the heart.”


35 posted on 08/04/2007 10:28:00 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: Dr. Marten

self ping.


36 posted on 08/04/2007 10:45:33 AM PDT by Dr. Marten (http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com)
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To: Dr. Marten

self ping.


37 posted on 08/04/2007 10:45:44 AM PDT by Dr. Marten (http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com)
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To: RightWhale

Actually, we are all Buddhas - even Buddha said that upon his enlightenment.


38 posted on 08/04/2007 1:57:00 PM PDT by Humvee (Beliefs are more powerful than facts - Paulus Atreides)
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To: Humvee

Sure, just emphasizing different aspects of Enlightenment.


39 posted on 08/04/2007 2:03:03 PM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: jrg

China has had somewhat of a hand in it for a long time: http://www.tibet-tour.com/tibet/reincarnation.html


40 posted on 08/04/2007 2:10:12 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: jrg; Dr. Marten

More proof of Chicom “Freedom of Religion”.


41 posted on 08/05/2007 7:25:51 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: jrg

The Buddha that must be authorized by the government is not the true Buddha.


42 posted on 08/05/2007 7:27:11 AM PDT by RichInOC (If you meet the Buddha-authorization officer on the road, kill him.)
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To: jrg

the amount of paperwork the candidate has to fill out to get the reincarnation permit is probably mindboggling!


43 posted on 08/05/2007 7:28:33 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: jrg

A Karma Crackdown. This can’t be good for China... Watch for floods, volcanoes, earthquakes, locusts, and general plague stuff. The only ones laughing silently will be the Tibetan monkeys, strangely garbed in robes, and making fruitcakes with omens and karma curses baked inside.


44 posted on 08/05/2007 7:36:35 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness ( Bumper sticker idea: Hillary/Obama Nation '08. Let the desolation begin)
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To: Paul Ross
I posted on this one yesterday.  Amazing how terrified the Chinese government is of one little, old, peace-loving man.
45 posted on 08/05/2007 8:50:47 AM PDT by Dr. Marten (http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Irony Ping.


46 posted on 08/05/2007 8:52:01 AM PDT by Dr. Marten (http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com)
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To: RightWhale
The Buddha is a man. The original one was a man and all subsequent ones are men. Don’t know if wimmin are allowed to be the Buddha, maybe somebody can answer that one.

There have been several female bodhisattva (enlightend or awaken human beings) the most famouse is Kwan Yin.
47 posted on 08/05/2007 8:52:33 AM PDT by Talking_Mouse (O Lord, destroy Islam by converting the Muslims to Christianity.)
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To: RightWhale
Don’t know if wimmin are allowed to be the Buddha, maybe somebody can answer that one.

Tara, the protectress is a feminine Buddha. An emination of Chenrizik, or Avalokiteshvara, the Buddha of Infinite Compassion
48 posted on 08/06/2007 10:36:50 AM PDT by jrg
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the Buddha of Infinite Compassion

Do they have a Buddha for everything? Our Buddha of Indefinite Compression seems to be busy on Wall Street.

49 posted on 08/06/2007 10:40:54 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: RichInOC
The Buddha that must be authorized by the government is not the true Buddha.

The Panchen Lama is an example of what happens if you're not the authorized one....
50 posted on 08/06/2007 10:41:58 AM PDT by jrg
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