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Quebec-based troops in Afghanistan can't fathom antiwar sentiment back home
CanadaEast ^ | August 3rd, 2007

Posted on 08/04/2007 8:01:27 PM PDT by nuconvert

Quebec-based troops in Afghanistan can't fathom antiwar sentiment back home

MARTIN OUELLET

August 3rd, 2007

SHAWALI KOT, Afghanistan (CP) - Pte. Francis Archambault says he couldn't believe what he was hearing during a conversation he had before he left Quebec for Afghanistan.

"Somebody who's educated, who has diplomas galore, told me there would be no war in the world if people like me didn't exist," Archambault, 23, said in an interview with The Canadian Press.

"It really shocked me to hear that from someone who should know better."

Archambault and other Quebec-based soldiers in Afghanistan expressed frustration and exasperation with the widespread opposition in their home province to Canada's military mission in the country.

One poll suggested 70 per cent of Quebecers were opposed to the continued presence of Canadian soldiers in the war-torn land, while some members of the national assembly refused to stand up when several soldiers visited the legislature earlier this year.

Archambault said people who are against the mission are misguided when they accuse Prime Minister Stephen Harper's Conservatives of wanting to endorse U.S. foreign policy just to stay in the good books of the Bush administration.

"That has nothing to do with it," he said. "Canada is not getting a lot out of its presence here. It costs lives and it costs money but we're trying to give a chance to people who need help.

"It's probably the biggest thing I'll do in my life."

Canada has about 2,500 troops in Afghanistan as part of the NATO force supporting the Afghan government. In the new rotation, most of them will be from CFB Valcartier, near Quebec City.

Canada is slated to leave Afghanistan in February 2009 and Harper has said extending the mission would require the consensus of Parliament.

Master Cpl. David Martel, one of the Van Doos charged with patrolling the Shawali Kot district in southeastern Afghanistan, said the attitude of some people is disheartening.

"You come here because you believe in what you do," Martel said.

"You want to provide security and help people improve their lot, while back home people aren't very receptive to that. They say you're just off to kill people."

Sgt. Steve Dufour said people are entitled to their opinion but believes the Canadian mission is not understood and is often misinterpreted.

"I spoke to one student who was against the mission," he said. "I told her 'In Canada, does anyone prevent you from going to school and getting an education?' Well, that's what it's like here (in Afghanistan)."

On Friday, some of the Van Doos went out on foot patrol with a contingent of Afghan police officers.

At one point, one of the policemen fired his weapon by mistake, leading the Canadians to believe they were being attacked. No other shots were fired and nobody was injured.

Capt. Stephane Girard said later he was angry that the Afghan police had told villagers not to venture outside during the visit by the Canadian soldiers.

"We wanted to meet the locals and speak to them," Girard said.

"But they (the Afghan police force) got there before us and scared them."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; canada; frenchcanada; military; quebec; vandoos; wot

1 posted on 08/04/2007 8:01:31 PM PDT by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert

At the beginning of World War 2 (Sept 1939), A majority of Quebeckers were opposed to any involvement in the war.


2 posted on 08/04/2007 8:06:05 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney for President 2008)
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To: Perdogg

Quebecers are all French, are they not? Need we say more?


3 posted on 08/04/2007 8:10:48 PM PDT by MCH
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To: nuconvert
The Canadian troops from Quebec, as they return from Afghanistan, should seize the provincial government by force (and maybe the national government if they get in the way) and begin a major purge of their enemies.

This garbage has gone on too long for the comfort of the folks in the rest of the continent. Even Mexicans are at great risk of terrorists who get the idea that Americans are easy pickings.

4 posted on 08/04/2007 8:12:59 PM PDT by muawiyah
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5 posted on 08/04/2007 8:17:40 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: nuconvert

They’ve got the same problems we do...good soldiers, with some rotten civilians.


6 posted on 08/04/2007 8:21:44 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: MCH

In my 60 years on this earth, I’ve met two frenchmen who were men. One of them was a french Canadian who enlisted with me into the U.S.Marines to hurry up the immigration process (he was buried under an AMERICAN flag), as he was kia serving with 1/9,RLT 26 in Viet Nam.

The other was a french of Jewish descent who was a veteran of the Israeli Army and the invasion of Lebanon to kick yasser out of that country.

Haven’t met any others male or female I’d waste spit on if they were on fire.


7 posted on 08/04/2007 8:25:42 PM PDT by stumpy
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To: nuconvert
Van Doos - a French Canadian regiment. The soldiers in Afghanistan are serving bravely and honorably. My native province isn't doing them favors by failing to back them in the defense of their country.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

8 posted on 08/04/2007 8:41:38 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: nuconvert

How can we communicate to Mr. Archambault that some men - like himself - are warriors, and some are pissants?


9 posted on 08/04/2007 8:47:52 PM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD -"What would Jack Bauer do?")
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To: Perdogg
"At the beginning of World War 2 (Sept 1939), A majority of Quebeckers were opposed to any involvement in the war."

As were a majority of Americans.
As you'd know if you'd care to research the matter.

10 posted on 08/04/2007 8:49:11 PM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD -"What would Jack Bauer do?")
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To: nuconvert
"Somebody who's educated, who has diplomas galore, told me there
would be no war in the world if people like me didn't exist,"
Archambault, 23, said in an interview with The Canadian Press.


That is because you, Private Archambault, are a man.

And that diploma person is a "pseudointellectual".

This is a replay of the Vietnam war as it played out in the USA.

And once again the guy doing the heavy lifting has to take guff
from some pencil-necked geek.
11 posted on 08/04/2007 8:57:08 PM PDT by VOA
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To: nuconvert
Quebec is a quagmire. Perhaps Canada should pull its troops out immediately from there.
12 posted on 08/04/2007 8:57:17 PM PDT by teacherwoes ("It is vain to expect a well-balanced government without a well-balanced society" -Gideon Welles)
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To: Redbob

you beat me to it. I was going to say the ssme thing. An ignorant response should be challenged at all times.


13 posted on 08/04/2007 9:20:06 PM PDT by bubman
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To: nuconvert
"Somebody who's educated, who has diplomas galore, told me there would be no war in the world if people like me didn't exist," Archambault, 23, said in an interview with The Canadian Press.

That "educated someone" would be bowing to Mecca 5 times a day if men and women like this soldier didn't exist.

God Bless the men and women who are the warriors protecting us from the evil ones!

14 posted on 08/04/2007 9:27:01 PM PDT by NRA2BFree
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To: nuconvert

btt


15 posted on 08/04/2007 10:55:59 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: nuconvert

Sticking Canucks in a hellhole like Darfur with no support and no real mission apart from some vague mandate to do good-good.

Sticking Canucks in a well-supported, clearly defined mission which is showing real progress-bad.

Is there something wrong with this picture?


16 posted on 08/04/2007 11:20:22 PM PDT by tanuki (u)
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To: muawiyah

The Canadian troops from Quebec, as they return from Afghanistan, should seize the provincial government by force (and maybe the national government if they get in the way) and begin a major purge of their enemies.


the same thing should happen here, or at least start arresting the seditionists in the Demorat Party and the MSM.


17 posted on 08/04/2007 11:29:19 PM PDT by balch3
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To: balch3

Just doing it in Quebec would probably scare the Dem’s pants off sufficient for them to run back to their little friends in Cuba and Venezuela.


18 posted on 08/05/2007 7:04:19 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: nuconvert

The Quebecois largely stayed out of World War I—they didn’t give a damn for France and saw it as Britain’s war. The mere hint of conscription was enough to spark riots.

The Quebecois opposed conscription in World War II while the rest of the country supported it, even though in both wars, there was little actual conscription carried out.

One of the dirty little secrets of Canadian history is just how much pro-Axis and pro-Vichy sentiment there was in Quebec, especially in the early years of World War II. Not majority support, but not insignificant either.


19 posted on 08/05/2007 7:50:40 AM PDT by Loyalist (Social justice isn't; social studies aren't; social work doesn't.)
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To: Perdogg
At the beginning of World War 2 (Sept 1939), A majority of Quebeckers were opposed to any involvement in the war.

In 1939 a majority of Americans were, too.

20 posted on 08/05/2007 7:57:30 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Perdogg
I aint sure, are Quebeckers French descendants?
21 posted on 08/05/2007 9:07:16 AM PDT by do the dhue (Don't let Jihad Jane do what Hanoi Jane did!!!! SEP 15, 07 Gathering of EAGLES DC)
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To: hinckley buzzard

The major difference was that Canada declared war on Germany three days after the United Kingdom did.


22 posted on 08/05/2007 10:14:04 AM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney for President 2008)
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To: MCH

Quebeckers are mainly descended from the French colonists who lived there before 1763, but there are a lot of immigrants from elsewhere in Montreal, and there are some small areas that are historically English-speaking (mostly along the border with New York, I think). Plus there are some members of the so-called First Nations (Indian or Eskimo).


23 posted on 08/05/2007 2:14:13 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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