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T'wit, FReeper extraordinaire, has died.
self | August 5, 2007 | 8mmMauser

Posted on 08/05/2007 3:55:55 AM PDT by 8mmMauser

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To: bjs1779

Is that an actual quote from Felos? What would make him think it was smart to say such a thing?


151 posted on 08/08/2007 10:26:37 PM PDT by LilAngel (No blood for quislings)
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To: wagglebee

>> 8mm is fairly rhetorical; but if the topic is cheese, BB is the resident expert!

Is it good to be a rhetorical? If so I will try to be one. I like cheese.


152 posted on 08/09/2007 3:22:31 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
The sun shines in Virginia...

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FRONT ROYAL, Virginia, August 8, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - College students are not exactly renowned for their ability to wake up at the crack of dawn, especially on Saturday mornings, when they typically catch up on a week's lost sleep and recover from a hard night of partying the night before. Yet, at one small college in Virginia, for almost three decades now, students have woken up as early as 6:30am every single Saturday morning when school is in session, to attend 7:00 Mass and then travel the hour and fifteen minutes to the Planned Parenthood clinic in Washington D.C.  Rain, shine, snow, sleet, or hail, dozens of students from Christendom College in Front Royal, Virginia are found at the Clinic by 9:00 Saturday morning, praying and counseling women who have appointments to abort their unborn children. Only in the most extreme weather, when it has been absolutely impossible to make the trip into D.C., have the students canceled this weekly love effort.

~Snip~

And indeed, said Kujawski, Shield of Roses has, by all accounts, saved more than a few lives. In the last several years alone, due to the direct efforts of the group's counselors, at least several women have turned away from Planned Parenthood, and decided not to have abortions. And while the students may never know the unseen successes of their efforts, they are confident that they are there, their hidden victories.

Virginia Students Prepares for 28th Year of Student-Initiated Sidewalk Counseling/Prayer

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153 posted on 08/09/2007 3:35:53 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
This text didn't make it to the above post...

Longtime members of Shield have a host of stories about "saves," and about some of the more dramatic moments in the lives of Shield members, including a trip that many of the members took to Florida to the hospice where Terri Schiavo was living. The students made the 16-hour trip, each way, in a single weekend, to join other Terri supporters in the weeks leading up to her court-ordered execution. "That was an incredible weekend," says Bodoh. "We had to skip classes and push back midterms to go, but just the chance to be there and to do something, even if it was only praying, was something that we could not pass up."

154 posted on 08/09/2007 3:37:58 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
All may recall the work by Bobby Schindler in bringing this travesty to light. Who knows, maybe Dr. Death's visit will sputter even as supporters are dying to hear him speak...

Gainesville, FL (LifeNews.com) -- Assisted suicide crusader Jack Kevorkian is headed to the University of Florida for an October 11 speaking engagement -- which will have the college pay him $50,000. But the event isn't going over well with students there, who are upset that state taxpayer dollars will be used to pay the convicted murderer.

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"Once again my school is making national headlines for reasons that make me cringe. It very rarely speaks for me, and I am ashamed my fellow students in the governing body want the cache of Kevorkian at the expense of respect or dignity," Emans says in the Town Hall editorial.

Emans pointed out the irony that Terri Schiavo was a victim of euthanasia in the same state and that the judge who allowed her former husband to take her life was University of Florida graduate George Greer.

"Bioethicist Bill Allen teaches here, who said in an interview that he believed Terri Schiavo was not a person," she added.

Jack Kevorkian Visit to University of Florida Upsetting to Students There

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155 posted on 08/09/2007 3:45:06 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Wow, some are not happy with serial killer Dr. Death coming to haunt! Especially, it is irritating because guess who picks up the tab. I am puzzled and maybe someone can help out. Is it University of Florida, (UF) or Florida University, (FU)?

On October 11, 2007 Dr. Jack Kevorkian will speak at the University of Florida. His resume includes at least 130 assisted suicides, several notable writings, and an eight year stint in prison (out of the 10-25 years sentenced for second-degree murder in the 1998 poisoning of Thomas Youk). Kevorkian accepted my school's offer by ACCENT, which is the largest student-run speaker's bureau in the nation, as well as a Student Government agency.

Therefore, his $50,000 honorarium is subsidized by taxpayer dollars. Kevorkian's UF stop will probably be his first paid public speaking engagement since his June 1 release from prison, according to Kevorkian's lawyer Mayer Morganroth. "They were actually the first ones to call," Morganroth said of ACCENT. "They sent the request almost immediately after he was out."

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Terri Schiavo was euthanized in Pinellas Park, Florida on the order of Pinellas County Court Judge George Greer, a UF alum. Bioethicist Bill Allen teaches here, who said in an interview that he believed Terri Schiavo was not a person (Terri's Foundation already has an email petition setup to oppose Kevorkian's appearance at Florida). The verdict is in: UF does not value life, and espouses the "Culture of Death" Pope John Paul II warned of. How sad we no longer expect anything else from our public universities.

Florida Taxpayers Foot the Bill for Dr. Death

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156 posted on 08/09/2007 3:54:22 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
How much is a picture worth? A decade and half ago, we learned the effect first hand when carrying posters from HLI showing aborted children. The shock of onlookers was palpable. Oh! that is a........BABY! And the look of demonic fury of those supporting that killing chilled us to the bone and galvanized our resolve.

Thread by wagglebee...

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A leading pro-life advocate says that the new trend in state legislation toward requiring abortion practitioners to allow women to see an ultrasound image of their unborn child prior to the abortion is changing hearts and saving lives. Gary Bauer, the former GOP presidential candidate, says more states should follow the lead.

Ultrasound images have worked in pregnancy centers. When women see a technologically amazing picture of their baby, they typically realize abortion is the worst decision they could make.

Pro-Life Leader Says Abortion-Ultrasound Bills Changing Hearts, Saving Lives

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157 posted on 08/09/2007 4:07:00 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; Lesforlife; TheSarce; wagglebee; Wampus SC
In a sense this is an update of the aftermath of Andrea Clark, Emilio and others in the wake of the exposure (originally on our Terri Dailies) of the Texas Futile Care Law. Thread by wagglebee.

The journey to reform Texas’ Futile Care Law, Texas Right to Life’s number one priority for the 80th Texas Legislative Session, was a challenging and often embittered battle that ended in a disappointing stalemate in the House.

However, the efforts of hundreds of activists, including families whose ailing loved ones were victims of the law and the attorneys and doctors who offered benevolent services to the patients, were not in vain. The statewide and national awareness provoked by this battle will not be forgotten by Texas legislators and the citizens they represent. The end of life euthanasia war has only just begun.

Texas Pro-Life Group's Effort to Change Futile Care Law Held Up by Politics

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158 posted on 08/09/2007 4:18:43 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; Coleus; bjs1779; BykrBayb
Harvest festival and Hootan redux

If you are going to San Francisco, you're sure to find an organ grabber there. It is dangerous to mistake Hooters for Hootan.

Sayyyyyy, isn't Hootan an Islamist? Those wacky Islamists, they'll steal your heart away. The best way to a man's heart is through his stomach. (Ok, enough...)

Thread by Coleus.

The San Luis Obispo County district attorney's office accused Dr. Hootan Roozrokh, 33, of dependent adult abuse, administering a harmful substance and prescribing an unlawful controlled substance without legitimate medical purpose. The surgeon allegedly ordered massive amounts of narcotic painkillers and sedatives for Ruben Navarro, a physically and mentally disabled man, "to accelerate Mr. Navarro's death," according to a written release from the district attorney. In addition, Roozrokh is accused of administering Betadine, a topical antiseptic, into Navarro's stomach.

Transplant surgeon, allegedly seeking organs, is charged with trying to hasten patient's death

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159 posted on 08/09/2007 4:33:42 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

Dang, I’m so sorry Mauser. He was a fine man. Prayers up for you and his family.


160 posted on 08/09/2007 5:44:50 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Backing Tribe al-Ameriki even if the Congress won't.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Agitate; AliVeritas; Alouette; Annie03; aposiopetic; attagirl; Augie76; ...

One of FR’s most ardent and eloquent defenders of life has died.


161 posted on 08/09/2007 5:46:05 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Backing Tribe al-Ameriki even if the Congress won't.)
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To: 8mmMauser
"Bioethicist Bill Allen teaches here, who said in an interview that he believed Terri Schiavo was not a person,"

Not wishing it on anyone, but one would hope he'd have a change of heart if it were his child.

162 posted on 08/09/2007 7:20:46 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: 8mmMauser

When did those students stand in front of Woodside in Pinellas Park with a banner no less?


163 posted on 08/09/2007 7:34:47 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's List - 8mmmauser & DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: bjs1779
I'm thinking t'wit was right. When I say Go Bobby, it is with regard to him being on the radio this past weekend and that interview was very motivating and impressive. I'm supporting Terri's Foundation myself. Context is everything.

I must say though, that I don't think Bobby is corruptible like run of the mill politicians. But, t'wit's not here to reply back so let's just let it go at that.

164 posted on 08/09/2007 7:46:03 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's List - 8mmmauser & DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: floriduh voter

Good morning, FV.

I don’t remember them specifically, but do remember groups coming in for a while, doing their thing, and then leaving. Some were really passionate but couldn’t stay long although they may have traveled quite a bit.

Now that I look again, I do not see the snow fences up, so maybe it was fairly early. The banner looks very well made, so somebody would remember it, I think.


165 posted on 08/09/2007 7:50:38 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: floriduh voter; bjs1779

T’wit and I were talking during that time about how power corrupts nearly anyone, even some of the best and how few survive that filter. He saw it as a frightening peril to any who tried. I pointed out some did weather it, those of very strong faith, and I thought Bobby would be able to weather it, too. We had differences of opinion just slightly. He was so admiring of Bobby, he didn’t want Bobby hurt.

Where we agreed, we thought Bobby had a date with destiny in some way or another, whether politics or another role. He must be listening to his muse or guardian angel and is moving right along.

We can pray that he safely weathers the perils sure to cross his path as certainly as trolls appear here.


166 posted on 08/09/2007 7:59:33 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

50,000 bucks? I don’t blame the students for being angry. I hope the allumni is paying attention to this gross misapropriation of funds.


167 posted on 08/09/2007 8:48:30 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (If the families still ran Las Vegas, Harry Reid would be napping at the bottom of Hoover Dam)
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To: 8mmMauser; BykrBayb
Bobby on the radio was the best interview I've heard in a while here. http://www.johnsipos.com

IMO,Glenn Beck now w/CNN, toned down his rhetoric for the 2nd vigil due to market forces and maybe he was already talkin to CNN. He toned it way down but he did attend the Gulfport Mass and talked about attending Terri's mass on his radio show.

He described seeing me at Terri's Mass on the radio. I was just one of many grieving folks at the Mass but as you may have discovered, I have this aura thing and well, I guess I'm stuck with it. Seriesly.

168 posted on 08/09/2007 8:57:22 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's List - 8mmmauser & DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: 8mmMauser

Thank you for posting this. Prayers are up for him and his family. He was a super person.


169 posted on 08/09/2007 9:07:03 AM PDT by dixie sass
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To: dixie sass

Thank you.... T’wit would have been pleased and honored at your recognition. He remembered well, as we try to.

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170 posted on 08/09/2007 10:26:12 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

#153 — 8mm - This is awesome!! I will remember them when I am out there at PP praying every morning, M-F. It will help me know I am not alone. I will also remember them when I am sieging PP on Saturdays with BOUND4LIFE from 11-1! HOW COOL! Thanks for sharing it. WOOOHOOOOO Christendom College students!!


171 posted on 08/09/2007 10:55:20 AM PDT by MountainFlower (There but by the grace of God go I.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Jack K. is one evil man. He even looks evil.


172 posted on 08/09/2007 11:10:26 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: 8mmMauser

And a horrible murder at that. I naively believed the Bush brothers would save her. And Greer sill on the bench in spite of all his perversions.


173 posted on 08/09/2007 11:33:08 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
A candle has been lit on Terri's Memorial website. T'wit would want us to remember Terri.

Memorial Candles

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"We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest."

174 posted on 08/09/2007 11:55:46 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: LilAngel
Is that an actual quote from Felos? What would make him think it was smart to say such a thing?

Yeah, he said it.

I don't know if he meant it to be smart, he is just proud of the fact that the door is opening to bump more people off. As you may know, Felos served on the board of directors of the Hospice of Florida Suncoast, the corporation which operates the Woodside Hospice.

175 posted on 08/09/2007 1:17:36 PM PDT by bjs1779 ("The force that created today’s hospice also propels the right-to-die movement." George Felos)
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To: All
Theresa Marie Schindler  

Terri has touched the lives of millions of people throughout the entire world.  For a woman who was unable to speak or permitted to appear publicly for more than a third of her short life, she had the most profound effect on people all over the world. She has opened the eyes of the world bringing awareness to the importance of our end of life wishes.

Terri's plight opened serious discussions and debates involving closed head injury, the disabled, cerebral vascular accidents, definitions of life support, the eugenics movement, and the exposure of special interest groups such as the bioethicists.

Terri's life will never be held in vain for she has forever influenced the world view of the disabled and the importance of our responsibilities to those who are vulnerable. She has brought recognition to the life's work of physicians, nurses, researchers, and lawmakers who have made tremendous contributions in their areas of expertise.

Thank you Theresa Marie Schindler for opening our eyes to the meaning of life.

Friends who have since joined Terri in Heaven..........
All who have left the earth, but never to be forgotten.
Rest In Peace Dear Angels..........

Bishop Craig, 2006
Maura, 2006
Johnny Shestag, June 2007
Tim Wheeler, August 2007


Fight4Terri@aol.com




Her legacy

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176 posted on 08/09/2007 1:22:01 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
It was very nice of Cheryl to do that.

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Cheryl Ford RN lit a candle on 08/09/2007:
"Another friend of Terri joins her heaven.
Tim, T'wit Freeper, a long time fighter for Terri,
now may he rest in peace."

177 posted on 08/09/2007 2:29:00 PM PDT by bjs1779 ("The force that created today’s hospice also propels the right-to-die movement." George Felos)
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To: Dante3

“I naively believed the Bush brothers would save her.”

Me too. They don’t have enough courage. Hope we get a conservative in the White House, and other offices, who have the courage of their pro-life conservatism.


178 posted on 08/09/2007 7:35:44 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Sun; EternalVigilance; floriduh voter

Lots of people were just confidently expecting Jeb to come through at the end, just to follow through and do the right and proper thing, and instead got a door slammed and stony silence.

Say it ain’t so, Jeb.


179 posted on 08/10/2007 3:31:45 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Yes, Jeb, that's great, but...

Somebody snatched defeat from the jaws of victory at the very last moment. Somebody let Terri die when she could easily have been saved. Somebody separated faith from politics. Who was that, Jeb? Please speak louder. I didn't hear well enough how Catholic you are in practice. Tell us all the story of Pontius Pilate and how it fit with the Easter sacrifice of Terri.

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ATLANTA, Georgia, August 9, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Republican governor of Florida, Jeb Bush, brother of President George Bush, described his "faith journey" to audiences at a Catholic conference this summer, emphasizing that faith and politics should not be separated.

The devout Catholic and pro-life politician received a standing ovation from a crowd of families, children, priests and young people before he even began his speech at the 11th Youth and Family Encounter conference at the Georgia World Congress Center in Atlanta. The event was sponsored this July by the international Catholic lay movement Regnum Christi.

He underlined the fact that leaders should not separate their faith from their political careers. "I don't know how one can do that," he said. "As governor I didn't do that. I tried not to."

"I don't think you can separate your personal faith from your public actions, and I don't think you need to. I think transparent, openly expressing your faith is a good thing."

~Snip~

Jeb Bush was closely involved in the case of Terri Schiavo in 2004 as governor of Florida. Putting his own words into practice, Bush signed Terri's law - a move approved by the State legislature - that would remove her from her husband's authority and thereby protect her life. Bush also appealed the Supreme Court to change its mind when it struck down the law (see http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2004/oct/04100602.html).

Leaders Shouldn't Separate Faith and Politics, Catholic Governor Jeb Bush States

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"We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest."

180 posted on 08/10/2007 3:52:10 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Liberal fantasies...I'm not quite sure I want to know.

I am not sure I would even want to know the PG-13 fantasies of the left, not even a cozy night with Dr. Kervorkian or the cuddly side of O.J. but this fantasy rerun hits me in the face regularly. They love to dream of us "social conservatives" or whatever, us who believe in good and God as failed. It would top the hottest dreams of a wild weekend romp with Paris Hilton and Cindy Sheehan.

So to keep this thought like a trophy of a serial killer, they cherish the thought that America loved the killing an innocent like Terri and the concept that anyone might try to save that life is, well, "evil".

I would post even more, but will have another cup of coffee instead. Here is a part of that fantasy:

Republicans have also whipped up a storm of opposition among middle-of-the-road voters on social issues. The religious right's opposition to abortion has always been an electoral liability: only 30% of voters favour overturning Roe v Wade. But in the past few years social conservatives tested people's patience still further over a federal marriage amendment and Terri Schiavo. Fully 72% of Republican voters opposed the Republicans' attempt to use the might of the federal government to keep the severely brain-damaged woman alive. The voters got their revenge in the 2006 mid-term elections—“bloody Tuesday” in the words of Troy Newman, the president of Operation Rescue, an anti-abortion group. Rick Santorum, once the religious right's most prominent champion in the Senate, barely scraped 41% of the vote in Pennsylvania. Ken Blackwell, social conservatism's most prominent black champion, went down to a humiliating defeat in the race for the Ohio governorship. Social conservatives lost ballot initiatives on everything from abortion to gay marriage.

The American right... Under the weather

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181 posted on 08/10/2007 4:24:09 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
See what I mean with my post above? The Economist has a matching article, same pub, same issue, repeating their fantasy.

To be stuck in their fevered brains so deeply, Terri's Legacy must be one potent fright!

Yet this President Bush is not a good scapegoat. Rather than betraying the right, he has given it virtually everything it craved, from humongous tax cuts to conservative judges. Many of the worst errors were championed by conservative constituencies. Some of the arrogance in foreign policy stems from the armchair warriors of neoconservatism; the ill-fated attempt to “save” the life of the severely brain-damaged Terri Schiavo was driven by the Christian right. Even Mr Bush's apparently oxymoronic trust in “big-government conservatism” is shared in practice by most Republicans in Congress.

Is America turning left?

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182 posted on 08/10/2007 4:33:14 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
No brickbats with this one, but I didn't see the HBO. Anyone?

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BRICK — The little things impress Tom Segars' loved ones the most.

Last weekend, he got up and made a pot of coffee.

"I know it sounds like something so small, but it's huge," said Lynda DeLorenzo, the woman Segars proposed to two months before he fell off the second-floor balcony of his Point Pleasant apartment.

Segars remained in a coma for five weeks, suffering with a traumatic brain injury.

For two years, since he awoke, Segars, now 34, has been working to rehabilitate himself, with De-Lorenzo, now 29, sticking faithfully by his side.

"She is the reason he has come back as far and as quickly as he has," said Segars' mother, Veronica Segars, 55, of Brick. "If there was ever a love story, this is it."

Their story, and the rest of Segars' first year of rehabilitation was captured in the HBO documentary called "Coma." The 101-minute program, directed by Academy Award-nominated Liz Garbus, follows four brain injury survivors during their critical first year of treatment at John F. Kennedy Medical Center in Edison.

Sheila Nevins, president of documentaries at HBO, asked Garbus to look into the phenomenon of coma, the director wrote in an e-mail to the Asbury Park Press.

"In the wake of the Terri Schiavo case, there was so much misinformation about the various disorders of consciousness, that we wanted to probe deeper into that world and show what it is really like," Garbus said.

Garbus said she thinks her documentary shows "the phenomenal commitment of family members to those with brain injury" and "the extraordinarily painstaking process by which these patients are rehabilitated . . . and how that can work well."

"We should only hope all brain injury patients in America were afforded such care," she added.

HBO'S "COMA" IS LIFE-AFFIRMING

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Here is the show schedule. (Wide Awake????? Nawww, couldn't be them.)

COMA

183 posted on 08/10/2007 4:59:45 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Senator Brownback has a campaign event in Des Moines, Iowa this Saturday. Bobby Schindler is on the program.

* 12:15 pm - Pro-Life, Whole-Life program with Lou Engle (national evangelical leader), Bobby Schindler (brother of the late Terri Schiavo), Norma McCorvey (the "Roe" of Roe v. Wade), Luana Stoltenberg (Iowa pro-life activist) and Eduaro Verostegui (star of the hit movie Bella).

Sam Brownback: Brownback Straw Poll Schedule

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184 posted on 08/10/2007 5:06:07 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Wagglebee has a thread on Dr. Death coming to FU.

Gainesville, FL (LifeNews.com) -- Assisted suicide crusader Jack Kevorkian is headed to the University of Florida for an October 11 speaking engagement -- which will have the college pay him $50,000. But the event isn't going over well with students there, who are upset that state taxpayer dollars will be used to pay the convicted murderer.

Ashley Emans, a junior at the university, wrote more about the speaking engagement in an editorial on Town Hall.

She said that the student-run speaker's bureau called ACCENT sent Kevorkian the speaking offer shortly after his released from prison, where he served eight years of a 10-25 year prison sentence for the murder of a disabled patient.

"Kevorkian's UF stop will probably be his first paid public speaking engagement since his June 1 release from prison," Emans says and "his $50,000 honorarium is subsidized by taxpayer dollars."

Jack Kevorkian Visit to University of Florida Upsetting to Students There

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185 posted on 08/10/2007 5:11:43 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser; floriduh voter

No more Bushes in politics, please. They just aren’t strong enough fighters of the good fight, I’m sad to say.


186 posted on 08/10/2007 7:15:54 AM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: All; pissant

Duncan Hunter and one of his sons (son’s FReeper name is “Duncan Hunter Ambassador”) are going to visit us for awhile on Monday, around lunchtime, Pacific time. Info here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1878883/posts

This is a good time for me to repost that Duncan Hunter was on Terri’s side, as was Sam Brownback, but Rudy McRomney were not (from the 1st debate):

“MR. MATTHEWS: Okay.

Let me ask you a question which has grabbed a lot of Americans personally, the Terri Schaivo case. Again, it was a question of whether the United States — the U.S. Congress should have intervened and passed a law to advise the appellate court whether to act or not in this case, the district court it was. Terri Schaivo, should Congress have acted or let the family make the decision, the husband?

MR. ROMNEY: I think we should generally let the family make a decision of this nature. In the case —

MR. MATTHEWS: The husband should have decided?

MR. ROMNEY: Generally we should make that decision.
In the case here, the courts decided that — what they thought was the right thing to do, and then I think Jeb Bush and the Florida legislature did the right thing by saying we’ve got a concern. They looked over the shoulder of the court. But I think the decision of Congress to get involved was a mistake.

MR. MATTHEWS: Okay.

MR. ROMNEY: I think that Congress’s job is to make sure that laws are respecting the sanctity of life. But to actually adjudicate a case like this, better done at the state level by the governor, the legislature and the court.
MR. MATTHEWS: Senator Brownback, should Congress have gotten involved in that personal case?

SEN. BROWNBACK: Yes, it should have, and it gave her the right and the family the right to take that appeal to the court. That’s what the Congress did.

And her life is sacred. Even if it’s in that difficult moment that she’s in at that point in time, that life is sacred. And we should stand for life in all its circumstances.

MR. MATTHEWS: Senator McCain, was Congress right in intervening in that case?

SEN. MCCAIN: It was a very, very difficult issue. All of us were deeply moved by the pictures and the depiction of this terrible, tragic case. In retrospect, we should have taken some more time, looked at it more carefully, and probably reacted to hastily.

MR. MATTHEWS: Mayor Giuliani, was that a good thing for Congress to do, to get involved that weekend?

MR. GIULIANI: The family was in dispute. That’s what we have courts for. And the better place to decide that in a much more — I think in a much fairer and even in a deeper way is in front of a court.

snip

“MR. MATTHEWS: Okay. Congressman, Bill Clinton back home.

REP. HUNTER: You know, Bill Clinton cut the U.S. Army by almost 50 percent. In this war against terror, he’s the wrong guy to have in there.
==>And incidentally, on the Schiavo case, you know Ronald Reagan said on the question of life, when there’s a question, error on the side of life. I think Congress did the right thing.”

http://www.iht.com/bin/print.php?id=5562636

You know, Duncan Hunter could have just ignored the question about Terri, because he wasn’t asked about it, but he proudly showed the country that he supported Congress decision to help Terri, even though he had to add it while answering an entirely different question.

Now THAT I like, because not all people supported Terri, either because of ignorance, or they are downright antilife, but Hunter didn’t care.”


187 posted on 08/10/2007 7:38:46 AM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: 8mmMauser

Thanks for the link, I lit another one.

http://theresa-schindler.memory-of.com/Candles.aspx?c=1#NewCandleForm


188 posted on 08/10/2007 9:50:07 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: bjs1779

Felos is deranged. Criminally insane. His delusional rantings about telepathic communication and crashing planes with his mind are creepy.


189 posted on 08/10/2007 1:14:56 PM PDT by LilAngel (No blood for quislings)
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To: 8mmMauser
Terri’s case was so horrific that it attracted support form select liberals - I do not know how many, but certainly a number of them. Yet Jeb Bush only wrong his hands, claiming falsely that there was nothing he could do.
190 posted on 08/10/2007 3:47:49 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dante3
Yet Jeb Bush only wrong his hands, claiming falsely that there was nothing he could do.

That episode almost reminds me of how brave the republicans were during the Clinton years, until they were informed of the information on them in the FBI files the Clinton's had. Jeb was brave just one day before saying that he was going to save her if you recall.

191 posted on 08/10/2007 4:36:02 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779
IMHO, he never had any intention of saving her, had little interest in the case. At the time I kept wondering why he wasn’t acting quicker.
192 posted on 08/10/2007 4:54:31 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: LilAngel
Felos is deranged. Criminally insane. His delusional rantings about telepathic communication and crashing planes with his mind are creepy.

I don't remember the Main Stream Media mentioning any of that. His insanity was published in his own book after all. Just goes to show you where the Main Steam Media priorities lie.

193 posted on 08/10/2007 4:57:50 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: Dante3
IMHO, he never had any intention of saving her, had little interest in the case. At the time I kept wondering why he wasn’t acting quicker.

I understand how you feel. Remember he sent in Dr. Cheshire to observe her on March 23rd I think. The next day Jeb held a news conference saying that there "was new evidence" in the case and that he was going to act, based on Cheshire's report. Something happened. That is what I want to know.

194 posted on 08/10/2007 5:07:30 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
What is going on???

Hailey and Haleigh, a new case!

......................................

A New Brighton mother, Marlene Medina, is charged with beating her 20-month-old daughter into a near-death state -- yet she still has the right to make life-or-death decisions about her daughter's medical care.

"Only a parent or guardian can consent to a 'do not resuscitate' order," said Sheila Stainback, a spokeswoman for the city Administration for Children's Services. "These parents' rights have not been suspended."

Hailey Gonzalez, the toddler whose lung collapsed and brain swelled after she was beaten on Tuesday, is not expected to survive her injuries. She's in critical condition in Richmond University Medical Center, West Brighton.

~Snip~

It may seem inherently wrong for parents to hold sway over their children's lives after they have routinely imperiled them. But officials often struggle to strike a balance between honoring the bonds of family and ensuring a child's protection.

It would take a court decision for the city to assume ultimate authority over Hailey's medical care -- a scenario that's not without precedent.

A strikingly similar case in Massachusetts involved a ruling in that state's highest court last year that gave the Department of Social Services the authority to take a badly beaten 11-year-old victim off life support.

In that highly publicized case, Haleigh Poutre's doctors said the girl would never regain consciousness. Her adoptive mother, charged in the beating, died two weeks later in an apparent murder-suicide; the girl's stepfather, who also was charged, unsuccessfully fought the court's decision to end Haleigh's life.

Lawyers in the Poutre case raised the question of whether the state was acting to hasten the girl's death because of the high cost of life support, while opposing attorneys stressed that the stepfather had a vested interest in the ruling because he could face murder charges in the event of Haleigh's death. The DSS commissioner was fired after he was criticized for his handling of the case: Just after the court ruled for Haleigh's "right to die," her health suddenly improved. The girl, who did not fully recover, is now 13.

The Gonzalez case could give rise to a similar battle, one in which the guardians of the child, albeit responsible for her injuries, could need to fight for their right to keep her alive. The Administration for Children's Services and its commissioner, John B. Mattingly, also have come under fire since the city's Department of Investigation reported Thursday that 10 children had died as a result of bungled investigations since the end of 2005.

While citywide media reported yesterday that doctors were considering whether the decision to end Hailey's life support should fall to the ACS, law experts said that only a judge would make that determination.


Mom charged in beating of her tot retains life-and-death power

8mm


195 posted on 08/11/2007 4:41:32 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: T'wit

I wish you could give us your insight...


196 posted on 08/11/2007 4:42:59 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; Sun
Coming up on the Straw Poll tomorrow...

The eight GOP presidential hopefuls in attendance will each have 15 minutes to deliver their straw poll addresses. At the conclusion of their 15-minute speech, the microphone will go dead.

The RPI announced the speaking order for the event in July. The order is Mitt Romney, Tom Tancredo, John Cox, Ron Paul, Mike Huckabee, Duncan Hunter, Tommy Thompson and Sam Brownback.

SATURDAY'S CAMPAIGN SCHEDULES

Read below for what each candidate has planned:

Sam Brownback: Famous Dave's will be catering for Brownback's tent, which will be air-conditioned and seat up to 600 people. The Kansas senator will also serve snow cones, cotton candy and popcorn. There will also be an intern dunk tank. Some dignitaries on site include: Chris "Zip" Rzeppa and Drew Mariani of Relevant Radio, national evangelical leader Lou Engle, Norma McCorvey ("Roe" in Roe v. Wade); Bobby Schindler the brother of Terri Schiavo, and Eduaro Verostegui of the movie "Bella."

~Snip~

Duncan Hunter: Elvis will be in the building, or at least in Hunter's tent. The California congressman is bringing in Ace Trie, who placed third in an international Elvis impersonation contest. Other entertainment includes a couple Iowa young ladies who will be playing fiddle. The Hunter camp is also serving corn on the cob, and will have a homemade ice wagon on hand to help cool off those who want to beat Saturday's heat. The congressman, who is a strong supporter of the right to bear arms, will hold a raffle to give away a Ruger shotgun.

Politically speaking

8mm

197 posted on 08/11/2007 4:50:29 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
From the, uhhhh, Washington Post...

Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback did not visit the fair Friday, going instead to the famed "Field of Dreams" before a scheduled rally at his headquarters in the evening. His campaign, which is counting on support from conservatives, did offer interviews with Bobby Schindler, the brother of the late Terri Schiavo, whose husband fought an extended battle to take her off life support.

A Fair Day for Politicking

8mm

198 posted on 08/11/2007 4:53:30 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; Lesforlife
And from the Denver Post...

But it looks like U.S. Sen. Sam Brownback may have the most elaborate plans. His tent - fully air conditioned - holds up to 600 people and includes an intern dunk tank. Famous Dave's BBQ, snow cones, cotton candy and popcorn will be served. And at an event that turns out many religious conservatives, Brownback has snagged the Po-Life all-star team for his backers: evangelical leader Lou Engle, Bobby Schindler, the brother of the late Terri Schiavo, and Norma McCorvey, better known as "Roe" of Roe v. Wade.

Dispatches from the Iowa Straw Poll

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199 posted on 08/11/2007 4:57:13 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Another case...

...................................

The cases differ in a crucial way: unlike Schiavo, Devlin signed a health care proxy during his health crisis. Nevertheless, debate persists about who should carry out his wishes, and how.

In his July 2004 proxy, Devlin, who was diagnosed with esophageal cancer, gave control of his medical treatment to his brother, Dan Devlin.

Ten months later, Al Devlin suffered severe brain damage during surgery to remove cancerous tissue. Soon after, his wife successfully sued for control of her husband's treatment.

Earlier this week, state Appellate Justice Salvatore Martoche denied Dan Devlin's appeal of that ruling. Devlin said he may next take his case to the state's highest court, the Court of Appeals, or to a federal court.

"If a judge is able to get away with this, a (proxy) is useless," he said.

:My bold:

Dan Devlin, 60, believes that a treatment might be found to help his 55-year-old brother regain consciousness. He is so adamant that he has vowed to pursue murder charges if life support is discontinued before every option is explored.

Life support decision divides Buffalo family

8mm

200 posted on 08/11/2007 5:04:33 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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