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Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #4 - Des Moines, IA 08/05/07 - Official Discussion Thread
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Posted on 08/05/2007 5:29:36 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #4 – Des Moines, Iowa 08/05/07 - Official Discussion Thread

ABC News will be conducting a debate to be aired on This Week. The nine announced GOP presidential candidates meet in a campaign debate at Drake University in Des Moines, Iowa. George Stephanopoulos is the moderator; Des Moines Register political writer David Yepsen poses additional questions. Debate starts at 8 am CT (9 am ET/ 6 am PT) * check local stations for broadcast time in your area *

Candidates participating



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1 posted on 08/05/2007 5:29:39 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Each candidate hopes they’ll be the one who gets the question about Obama’s plan to invade Pakistan.


2 posted on 08/05/2007 5:32:26 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: CounterCounterCulture

I’m working right now—unfortunately—so I can’t watch the damn thing with the sound off.

Mr. Alexandra Wentworth is moderating this thing too. That’s like Walt Coleman refereeing a football ga——oh, wait, that happens. Grrrrrrr.


3 posted on 08/05/2007 5:33:33 AM PDT by GOP_Raider (Your one stop shop for all your useless information needs.)
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To: Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator

Debate, Part 4... breakfast not included. :-)


4 posted on 08/05/2007 5:34:19 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture

This early?


5 posted on 08/05/2007 5:36:01 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
.. breakfast not included. :-)

damn.................. ;-)

6 posted on 08/05/2007 5:36:07 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Bill O'Reilly is a pinhead.)
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To: Sun; WalterSkinner; Ciexyz; Calpernia; RasterMaster

Courtesy Ping


7 posted on 08/05/2007 5:36:32 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

thanks


8 posted on 08/05/2007 5:37:02 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: CounterCounterCulture

How about brunch?


9 posted on 08/05/2007 5:38:41 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: BunnySlippers
Yeh, tell me about it. I'm up at 5:30am and I don't even get a live feed on the left coast, unless there's a live internet feed somewhere.

Makes it tough to do live commentary.

10 posted on 08/05/2007 5:39:09 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Breakfast? I’m about to have dinner! Nothing like working graveyard...


11 posted on 08/05/2007 5:39:30 AM PDT by GOP_Raider (Your one stop shop for all your useless information needs.)
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To: mainepatsfan

Sure, if you’re buying. ;-)


12 posted on 08/05/2007 5:40:36 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: GOP_Raider
Its Sunday. I wish i didn’t need to curse mcPain out on a Sunday. Oh well... what has to be has to be.
13 posted on 08/05/2007 5:42:23 AM PDT by Weeedley (Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Well I could run to Dunkin Donuts and grab us a bag of Munchkins.


14 posted on 08/05/2007 5:43:19 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: CounterCounterCulture

..we have to wait until 8 AM our time-—nuts!


15 posted on 08/05/2007 5:43:31 AM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

This Week is running an expanded edition.

Check Tvguide.com for local times.

Also, abcnews.com is running a streaming feed.


16 posted on 08/05/2007 5:46:01 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: CounterCounterCulture
WABC New York 9:00 AM
Excellent! I like the idea of radio debates in general. Their advantage over TV is that since time isn't as precious/scarce as TV time, the debates can in principle be far less of a pressure cooker affair. And the lack of video removes the hair factor from consideration . . .

I would however prefer true debates in which two individuals squared off without questions or limitations from a moderator - only a chess timer controlling the microphones. If the candidates actually need a moderator, they are pretty worthless at public speaking in the first place. In reality the moderator is normally an "objective" (note the scare quotes) journalist whose fondest hope is that the conservative(s) in the debate will commit "gaffes."


17 posted on 08/05/2007 5:49:30 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Sam Brownback
Rudy Giuliani
Mike Huckabee
Duncan Hunter
John McCain
Mitt Romney
Ron Paul
Tom Tancredo
Tommy Thompson

.
They only have to beat Biden on substance, Obama on style.


18 posted on 08/05/2007 5:50:09 AM PDT by Son House ($$Proud Memeber of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

I hope Steffie in the Republican Debate asks the hard questions, like the Youtubers did, so we can get answers:

Who was your favorite teacher?
What was your favorite subject in high school?
At what age did you go on your first date?
What is your favorite book?
What is your favorite movie?
Who is your favorite actor?
Who is your favorite actress?
What is your favorite color?
Boxers or briefs?

[/s]


19 posted on 08/05/2007 5:50:09 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: CounterCounterCulture; Obadiah; Mind-numbed Robot; Zacs Mom; A.Hun; johnny7; ...
WABC New York 9:00 AM
Excellent! I like the idea of radio debates in general. Their advantage over TV is that since time isn't as precious/scarce as TV time, the debates can in principle be far less of a pressure cooker affair. And the lack of video removes the hair factor from consideration . . .

I would however prefer true debates in which two individuals squared off without questions or limitations from a moderator - only a chess timer controlling the microphones. If the candidates actually need a moderator, they are pretty worthless at public speaking in the first place. In reality the moderator is normally an "objective" (note the scare quotes) journalist whose fondest hope is that the conservative(s) in the debate will commit "gaffes."


20 posted on 08/05/2007 5:50:32 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

I’m in LA. Does it say it’s on KABC? That’s channel 7.

Lemme turn it on.


21 posted on 08/05/2007 5:52:01 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

BTTT


22 posted on 08/05/2007 5:53:29 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: mainepatsfan
Each candidate hopes they’ll be the one who gets the question about Obama’s plan to invade Pakistan.

But they'll get... global-warming, decayed-infrastructure, Iraq withdrawal, domestic-spying, culture-of-corruption, Terry Schiavo...

23 posted on 08/05/2007 5:54:37 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: TomGuy

Do you have a link to the streaming feed?


24 posted on 08/05/2007 5:56:13 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Any streaming audio ANYWHERE to be found, of this event, live? (I doubt it, due to copyright laws).

Just wondering.

Many overseas would like to tune in!

25 posted on 08/05/2007 5:56:40 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time-an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the USA)
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To: johnny7

Don’t forget Scooter Libby.


26 posted on 08/05/2007 5:57:29 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Anyone know if there’s a live feed of this debate anywhere? I don’t have a TV.


27 posted on 08/05/2007 5:58:01 AM PDT by AfterManyASummer (Hunter/Huckabee '08)
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To: TomGuy

You forgot these: What do you think about Hillary Clinton?What do you think about Hillary Clinton’s cleavage? How can global warming successfully be stopped? Exactly how bad is President Bush? Why do all of you have a problem with the gay lifestyle? Why do all of you have a problem with all minority groups? Why do all of you want to kill our troops instead of safely bringing them back home? What’s wrong with having Bill Clinton back at the White House? Why is the Republican Party so evil?


28 posted on 08/05/2007 5:59:09 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: TomGuy

I think they should ask Shrillary the last question...


29 posted on 08/05/2007 6:00:54 AM PDT by econjack
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To: BunnySlippers

What a bizzare time to hold a debate and what a screwy format for a debate.

It won’t air in my area until 11:00 am.


30 posted on 08/05/2007 6:00:57 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: TomGuy

Giving everybody’s poll number.


31 posted on 08/05/2007 6:02:03 AM PDT by Son House ($$Proud Memeber of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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To: padre35

Robo-call(?) is on, first caller ‘abortion’.


32 posted on 08/05/2007 6:03:19 AM PDT by Son House ($$Proud Memeber of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

How about: Do you think Hillary will ever wear something other than a pants suit?

(Answer: Only after she puts her ankles on a diet. Besides, she’s always worn the pants in the family, anyway.)


33 posted on 08/05/2007 6:03:32 AM PDT by econjack
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To: Son House

Of course.


34 posted on 08/05/2007 6:03:58 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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For those watching live, give detailed accounts so that those with latter video feeds can follow along later.

Instead of “What a stupid answer,” explain what the candidate’s stupid answer was. That goes double for stupid questions. :-)


35 posted on 08/05/2007 6:04:38 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: mainepatsfan
It is Stephie... LMAO!

This'll be worse than Spitboy's, DNC talking-points debate.

36 posted on 08/05/2007 6:04:52 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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37 posted on 08/05/2007 6:05:29 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Wow thanks so much for doing this!!
38 posted on 08/05/2007 6:05:53 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: E.G.C.
I (and I sense many others here on FR) personally want to hear a CLEAR, EMPHATIC, INCONTROVERTIBLE BREAK FROM THE PRESIDENT on a number of the BIG TICKET policy items. Shamnesty for Illegals, Big Government, Pandering to Islamics/Political Correctness.

Any Presidential Candidate this morning up there who cannot bring himself to do that, but instead just parrots the usual RNC Establishment line, or worse yet, tries to split hairs and talk out of two sides of his mouth, hasn't a hope or a prayer for THIS conservative's vote in the primaries next year.


39 posted on 08/05/2007 6:06:11 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time-an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the USA)
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To: Son House

Romney ‘tired of holier then thou’ that have been pro-life longer then him, says he is pro-life.


40 posted on 08/05/2007 6:06:42 AM PDT by Son House ($$Proud Memeber of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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placemark


41 posted on 08/05/2007 6:08:47 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Bill O'Reilly is a pinhead.)
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To: TomGuy

Is it on C-span?


42 posted on 08/05/2007 6:11:25 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: George W. Bush

Thanks for the ping.


43 posted on 08/05/2007 6:13:07 AM PDT by rineaux (the powers that be are laughing at us)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Do you have a link to the streaming feed?

I couldn't find any.

Neither abcnews.com, Des Moines Register newspaper, nor the abc affiliate in Des Moines are streaming it.
44 posted on 08/05/2007 6:13:11 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Son House

still on abortion, I don’t think Thompson is present, 13% in polls.

Steph to McCain, De-emphisise abortion to security? A:COnnected, radical Islam a problem,

Iraq ending war, Q from Dem debate, Paul, come home, we’re losing, run down, moral, change rules for rest.

Hunter on Iraq Q; Salvador standing side by side in Iraq, Marines turned situation araond ,no dem paused from their exit to say good job to marines, no stamped to leave.


45 posted on 08/05/2007 6:13:37 AM PDT by Son House ($$Proud Memeber of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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To: Beagle8U
Nope, or at least not live.
46 posted on 08/05/2007 6:14:17 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Ditzy (my name for her, sorry I forgot what it was) from Grinnell, IA “What do you plan on doing to end the War in Iraq?”

Ron Paul: “Just come home.” Thunderous applause, I think some scattered boos.


47 posted on 08/05/2007 6:14:21 AM PDT by GOP_Raider (Your one stop shop for all your useless information needs.)
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To: TomGuy
Steffie: "Gentleman. All of you profess to be religious. Why aren't you in church today??"

".....??...uh...????....:

Steffie: "That's what I thought. More hypocrisy from the right."

"...........?.........."

48 posted on 08/05/2007 6:14:34 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness ( Bumper sticker idea: Hillary/Obama Nation '08. Let the desolation begin)
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To: Son House

Huckabee, stay and win, money used against us come from middle east, end dependance on foriegn ooiil,

excuse spelling, I am trying to type too fast.


49 posted on 08/05/2007 6:15:07 AM PDT by Son House ($$Proud Memeber of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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To: Son House

Q lack of politcal progress to MCCain, yes their is progress, American national interest, We will be back if we lose. Moral is good, no date for surrender.


50 posted on 08/05/2007 6:17:15 AM PDT by Son House ($$Proud Memeber of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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