Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #4 - Des Moines, IA 08/05/07 - Official Discussion Thread

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[CounterCounterCulture]

Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #4 – Des Moines, Iowa 08/05/07 - Official Discussion Thread

ABC News will be conducting a debate to be aired on This Week. The nine announced GOP presidential candidates meet in a campaign debate at Drake University in Des Moines, Iowa. George Stephanopoulos is the moderator; Des Moines Register political writer David Yepsen poses additional questions. Debate starts at 8 am CT (9 am ET/ 6 am PT) * check local stations for broadcast time in your area *

Candidates participating

• Sam Brownback
• Rudy Giuliani
• Mike Huckabee
• Duncan Hunter
• John McCain
• Mitt Romney
• Ron Paul
• Tom Tancredo
• Tommy Thompson

[tiredoflaundry]

This "debate" is not about finding out which Rep candidate is the best candidate for President, rather is is an exercise for the Dims to increase the hate for the Rep. party.

What a joke.

[TomGuy]

parrots the usual RNC Establishment line

The RNC, McCain, Graham, Kyl are flipflopping on amnesty worse than a flounder caught for Long John Silver's.

They have seen the light and are now pushing more for enforcement, per their PR releases.

I caution, read the fine print on any bill or amendment they try to put through during the next 18 months, however.

[Son House]

Julianne weak ness and appeasement shouldn’t be policy, NY times, ‘just might win in Iraq’. Bring stability to Iraq. No dem mention Islamic terrorism.

[steveegg]

> Do you have a link to the streaming feed?

I couldn't find any.

Neither abcnews.com, Des Moines Register newspaper, nor the abc affiliate in Des Moines are streaming it.

Which really sucks. The worst ABC station in the nation (WISN-Milwaukee) has chosen a second local hour of blather.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

“What do you plan on doing to end the War in Iraq?”

Ron Paul: “Just come home.” Thunderous applause

[Son House]

Rules of engagement, have got to be reviewed, un acceptable

[George W. Bush]

Duncan countered RP and made an argument for the Marines’ progress in Anbar. Crowd responded well to that. Huckabee is waffling in a middle position, pitching energy independence. Got applause. Senator Switchback now complaining about the dysfunctional Iraqi government, pitching the three-state solution.

[CounterCounterCulture]

BTW: The Democrats have their turn in this “format” in two weeks on August 19.

[TomGuy]

Tancredo: Rules of engagement are the problem.

We can win ANY battle on the ground.

[Or lose it in Washington, and that includes milquetoast leadership in the Oval Office.]

[steveegg]

The only “good” thing about being an hour behind is I know what pratfalls are going to happen :-)

[tiredoflaundry]

Tancredo is correct.............. we cannot fight this war & win while our troops have one hand tied behind their backs.

[steveegg]

This "debate" is not about finding out which Rep candidate is the best candidate for President, rather is is an exercise for the Dims to increase the hate for the Rep. party.

I didn't know that was possible.

What a joke.

Agreed. Of course, that's what presstitutes do.

[Son House]

That’s sickly funny,

Paul, no reason to go to war with 3rd world nations, unconstitutional undeclaired wars.

McCain, war mismanaged at first, but now succeeding.

[johnny7]

What a joke.

WHAT A JOKE!

There... that's better.

[tiredoflaundry]

I didn't know that was possible.

It is possible alright.

[George W. Bush]

Mitt: “Barrack has gone from Jane Fonda to Dr. Strangelove in one week.”

[tiredoflaundry]

;-)

[AmericanInTokyo]

Are they REALLY coming up with that CRAP??

Sheesh, it's worse than I thought.

I hope somebody trustworthy on the illegal immigration side, a true believer like Tancredo, Hunter or Paul, tears those Johnny Come Lately-types a new one. What political chameleons!

[TomGuy]

Huckabee on health care.

Cutzie remark, but rather stupid — ‘make Congress have the same kind of health care as the rest of America.’

[MNJohnnie]

Well that what Paddy B did in 2000. He got less then 1% of the vote. So I guess no one is too worried abut losing your vote. It a waste of time ever trying to placate this “My way our the highway” mindset of the Dinocons.. They have ZERO loyalty to anything. They merely desperate flail around for the next thing to whine hysterically about.

There is the door. Since you are so desperate to be the Democrat PR stoodge with your constant fragging of your OWN side, just do us a favor and go join the Democrat party. Drop the fraud about you being a “Conservative” and join with your heros in the Democrat Party. Ask them what THEY are going to do for you since you spent all your time the last 7 years doing nothing but fragging your OWN side for them

Either that or surprise us, stand FOR something ONE time instead of just whining about everything. Demanding 100% dogmatic purity to your own personal political whimsy's may make the Freeper Know Nothing’s emotionally giddy, it does not win any elections.

[mainepatsfan]

Good line.

[Son House]

Tancredo is correct.............. we cannot fight this war & win while our troops have one hand tied behind their backs.

Amen! Unfortunately we who support fully engaging the enemy get lumped in with those who would retreat to show a bigger poll number for lack of support for the war, Democrat Majority Press double speak.

[AmericanInTokyo]

Are you finished with your sermon now, Father?

[SE Mom]

ROFL! Good one, Mitt:)

[mainepatsfan]

Debates at this stage are like NFL pre season games. Too many players on the field you know won’t be there when the real games start.

[MNJohnnie]

Curious. “Thounderous applause” for surrender? Where are all these Surrender Now clowns when you look at the polls? See Congress’s current 3% approval on Iraq?

Just where did the Drive by Media get the audience for this clown act?

[mainepatsfan]

I hope (as I’m sure Mitt does as well) that Obama responds.

[tiredoflaundry]

Just where did the Drive by Media get the audience for this clown act?

Overflow from the Kos Convention?

[steveegg]

Mitt: “Barrack has gone from Jane Fonda to Dr. Strangelove in one week.”

That calls for a photo...

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Just where did the Drive by Media get the audience for this clown act?

See #55. ;)

[TomGuy]

Walmart is starting to offer some basic medical care at some of their stores.

Walmart will end up doing more for health care than Congress, just like they did with the $4 generic prescriptions.

Turn health care over to Walmart and everyone benefits.

[grin]

[mainepatsfan]

Probably folks that work in the ABC newsroom.

[Son House]

Expantion of child health care; Free market system, BrownBeck;

Jullianee: Dems taking us to socilized medicine, tax deduct for private ins., not good to move toward more Gov. control.

[GOP_Raider]

Just where did the Drive by Media get the audience for this clown act?

Tough to say, but according to another poster (George W. Bush)...

the word is that Ron Paul's supporters are outnumbering the opponents 20-1

George W. Bush, if you wouldn't mind following up on this, we'd appreciate it. Thanks.

[TomGuy]

Giuliani wants health savings and tax deductions, etc.

[We don’t need MORE complication, Rudy! That only ADDS to the cost.]

[Son House]

BrownBack on health care, more market forces in health care, Dems step by step to Gov health care.

[MNJohnnie]

“milquetoast leadership in the Oval Office.]”

Really a mornic statement about the President responsible for more dead terrorists then all the bellicose macho boy Net warriors EVER will be.

Maybe the Know Nothings ONE time might giving their bigoted mindless Bush hate a rest and try actually LEARNING somethings about Iraq.

Russians followed you arm chair warriors “kill them all” dogmas in Afganistan. How that work out for them?

Counter Insurgency is not Total War. Difference has been explained a few thousand times to you stupid Know Nothings. Instead of mindlessly clinging to dogma screamed at you by never been anything Talk Radio hosts, GROW UP.

The real world is not a Hollweird action movie. Something it is wasy past time you arm chair Rambos learned.

[mainepatsfan]

Heck I always get their generic drugs anyways.

[George W. Bush]

the word is that Ron Paul's supporters are outnumbering the opponents 20-1

George W. Bush, if you wouldn't mind following up on this, we'd appreciate it. Thanks.

Sure. The RP supporters were huge at the pre-debate rally. But the applause levels for other candidates have been as strong as those for Ron Paul. So ABC didn't pack the place with RP supporters from what we can see. Every candidate is getting some decent applause lines, I think.

[GOP_Raider]

Debates at this stage are like NFL pre season games. Too many players on the field you know won’t be there when the real games start.

To me, it's more like a training camp scrimmage when they're not even in full pads yet. But I still liked the comparison. :)

[Son House]

Obama Pakinstan comment,

Romney; Obama confused about enemies and friends, keep our options quiet, win war on jeehaw, help moderates muslin defeat extreme.

Julliane; Encourage mussarif to allow us to gop in, take that option if no other way, Pak not making efforts, seek permission from Pak

[GOP_Raider]

Okay, thanks.

[mainepatsfan]

Too bad we can’t call some of them into our office and tell them to bring their playbook.

[TomGuy]

Typical namecalling personal attacks, MN.

You still can’t respond to others without having to rely on such tactics. You need to quit reading the Clinton books on politics of personal destruction and scorched earth.

Debate the issues instead of attacking those raising the issues. When you rely on personal attacks, that is an admission that you can’t defend your position.

[Calpernia]

Thank you very much.

B4DH

[AmericanInTokyo]

I see it started on you, too. LOL ;-)

[Beagle8U]

OK thanks.

Its only on network here and I only get static on that.

[Earthdweller]

You are a man ahead of your time Johnnie. Lighten up. Not everyone is visonary. That's the way God made it.

Take a vacation and let it be.

[CounterCounterCulture]

Seconded. :-)

[AmericanInTokyo]

Third-ed ;-)