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English girl barred from Government job...because she is wrong kind of white
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | August 5, 2007 | MARK NICOL

Posted on 08/05/2007 9:55:18 AM PDT by Stoat

English girl barred from Government job...because she is wrong kind of white

By MARK NICOL - More by this author » Last updated at 10:27am on 5th August 2007

A teenage science student has been banned from applying for a training programme with the Environment Agency because she is white and English.

The recruitment agency handling the scheme told Abigail Howarth, 18, that there was no point in her submitting an application because of her ethnic background.

But bizarrely she could have applied if she had been white and Welsh, Scottish or Irish.

Abigail, who wanted to join the Agency's flood management programme, saw an advert in a local newspaper offering positions in the Anglia region where she lives, complete with a £13,000-a-year tax-free grant.

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Turned down: Abigail Howarth

It made no mention of the ban on white English applicants, merely noting that candidates from ethnic minorities, such as "Asian, Indian' and "White Other, e.g. Irish, Welsh, Scottish', were encouraged to put themselves forward.

Abigail, of Little Straughton, Bedfordshire, said: "I was really disappointed. To be told being "White English" ruled me out in my home county shocked me. I know why there are positive action training schemes to assist those who are genuinely discriminated against but when it's broken down to this level it seems crazy to me.

"I really wanted to work for the agency and I was very excited - followed by feeling very disappointed.

"I would not have minded had I been beaten for the position by somebody better able than me."

Abigail, who is awaiting the results of A-Levels in environmental science, geography and geology, emailed PATH National Ltd, the company handling applications.

She asked: "Am I correct in assuming that as I am English (White) I need not apply as the preference is for the minorities you have listed, or can I apply anyway?'

Three days later, PATH recruitment officer, Bola Odusi, replied: "Thank you for your enquiry unfortunately the traineeship opportunity in <\[>sic] targeted towards the ethnic minority group to address their under representations in the professions under the Race Relations Act amended 2000."

Such a policy may breach Race Relations legislation as employers must prove ethnic groups are under-represented before using positive discrimination strategies.

The Environment Agency admitted it had 'no evidence that white Welsh, Scottish or Irish workers were under-represented' in the Anglia region.

South West Bedfordshire Tory MP Andrew Selous said: "I think this is complete nonsense and the Environment Agency should be taking the best people, irrespective of their background.

"This is obviously borne out of some idiotic quota system. Abigail should have been able to apply and been judged on her own merits. I will raise this when I have a meeting with the Environment Agency next month."

PATH National's organisational development manager, Mary McDowell, said: "The "White Welsh", "White Irish" and "White Scottish" is a technicality in law - if they are a minority, they are entitled to places on these schemes - they are not part of the majority group, which is "White English".

"The "White English" in this area are the majority group and hence could not apply.

"That is the way the law is laid. This is a chance for people who might be less employable to gain experience, just experience. Public-sector organisations have a duty to ensure they reflect the make-up of the society they serve."

The Environment Agency says 387 of its 12,000 workers claim BME (Black and Minority Ethnic) status. A spokesman added: "The Commission for Racial Equality has confirmed we are acting legally."

A CRE spokeswoman said: "The Commission will be checking with the Environment Agency to clarify the current situation regarding their positive action initiatives.

"Positive action can only be used to encourage or train particular under-represented groups."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: abigailhowarth; britain; discrimination; eugenics; govwatch; greatbritain; ofpureblood; pc; politicalcorrectness; race; racism; reverseracism; uk; unitedkingdom
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1 posted on 08/05/2007 9:55:27 AM PDT by Stoat
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To: Stoat

Wow...I wouldn’t turn her down.


2 posted on 08/05/2007 9:57:23 AM PDT by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: Stoat

Welcome to the club, Abigail. I am part of a generation of White males caught in the generation that had to watch all the Affirmative Action types get appointments and jobs and grants and so on, to make up for generations of bias. You’ll get used to it, but you may never like it.


3 posted on 08/05/2007 9:59:03 AM PDT by Bernard (The Fairness Doctrine should be applied to people who follow the rules to come to America legally)
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To: Stoat

Take a look America, this is your future.....


4 posted on 08/05/2007 9:59:44 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: Stoat

There is no such thing as racial equality in government. Discrimination is SOP when it comes to the white man - and in this case, woman.


5 posted on 08/05/2007 10:00:02 AM PDT by SaveTheChief (Chief Illiniwek (1926-2007))
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To: Stoat

I had a sister who was turned down for welfare benefits, and food stamps and the Latino princess in the Glendale Ca office told her she was being turned down because she was,,,, WHITE.


6 posted on 08/05/2007 10:00:07 AM PDT by television is just wrong (deport all illegal aliens NOW. Put all AMERICANS TO WORK FIRST. END WELFARE.)
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To: krb
Wow...I wouldn’t turn her down.

Me neither   :-)

This is merely another installment in the long, ugly story of how how Socialism and all it's myriad related cancers destroy every aspect of life, wherever the policies may be implemented.

7 posted on 08/05/2007 10:00:42 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

I had a sister who was turned down for welfare benefits, and food stamps and the Latino princess in the Glendale Ca office told her she was being turned down because she was,,,, WHITE.

They furthered that by telling her that she can send her Iranian husband down and they would give him benefits, but not her.


8 posted on 08/05/2007 10:00:48 AM PDT by television is just wrong (deport all illegal aliens NOW. Put all AMERICANS TO WORK FIRST. END WELFARE.)
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To: Stoat

Exactly this kind of thing has been happening for years here in the US, but it rarely gets attention, for obvious reasons.

Being discriminated against is just fine as long as you are not a members of some minority.


9 posted on 08/05/2007 10:01:10 AM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: Stoat

The Euro-peons are committing cultural suicide. How do whites think they’ll be treated once they become the minority? The same thing is happening here.


10 posted on 08/05/2007 10:03:36 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth shall set you free))))
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To: Stoat
Related FR threads that may also be of interest:

Here is another related article.

4,000 PEOPLE A WEEK TRYING TO LEAVE UK

11 posted on 08/05/2007 10:05:21 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Stoat

My suggestion. Take it to a lawyer and the bank. That is how the left screwed things up and it is the only recourse.


12 posted on 08/05/2007 10:05:31 AM PDT by Maelstorm (When ideas are considered equal regardless of content, then arriving at truth becomes an accident.)
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To: krb

Amen brother.


13 posted on 08/05/2007 10:08:24 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: krb

This whole world has gone nuts!


14 posted on 08/05/2007 10:09:03 AM PDT by angelcindy (Where's the Fence?????)
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To: Stoat

She should go into fashion modeling. She’s very attractive.


15 posted on 08/05/2007 10:15:07 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Stoat

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1876680/posts


16 posted on 08/05/2007 10:16:43 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Stoat

Simple, re-apply with the ethnicity they are asking for.


17 posted on 08/05/2007 10:21:52 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Stoat

I see that she stated that she understood why these programs existed to help those truly discriminated against, but when the quota program was applied against her, it was nonsense.
Nothing like a wake up call.


18 posted on 08/05/2007 10:21:59 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Stoat
She also has another thing going against her.. she is beautiful. Watch BBC news or any CSPAN coverage of Parliament and you’ll see that there are zero beautiful women hired to government jobs (this excludes those who are appointed due to family ties.)

I would bet she is a Tory as well. The Tory/Labor line jumps out as much as the Conservative/Liberal line here in the US.. You can glance at most people and tell if they are conservative or liberal.. Conservatives always look confident, liberals beaten down.

19 posted on 08/05/2007 10:24:58 AM PDT by mnehrling (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: Bernard
In the ‘80s, I went to school to become a computer tech. I studied my butt off! My grades were perfect. I corrected all the mistakes in the school’s new textbooks. I graduated #1. The instructor had taken a job at the Lewis Research Center, and wanted to take me with him. At my job interview I was told that despite my high grades, and despite my instructor’s high praise, they could only hire a black women at that time. I had to take a job working night shift in a factory in order to pay off my school loan.
20 posted on 08/05/2007 10:28:17 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Free ThinkerNY
You are a little off here.. this isn’t about white/black or whatever, this is about Liberals putting everyone into boxes and telling you that you fit into X mold because of your box and you can’t do X because of your box.. The racial component to this is just the current box.. just like the box has been subdivided even more.. the next thing we’ll see is boxes for ugly vs beautiful, fat vs thin, long hair vs short hair..
21 posted on 08/05/2007 10:28:41 AM PDT by mnehrling (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: Stoat

From reverse discrimination to perverse discrimination.


22 posted on 08/05/2007 10:29:01 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: DumpsterDiver
Anyone want to co-sponsor her for a visa?
23 posted on 08/05/2007 10:29:36 AM PDT by mnehrling (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: mnehrling
Anyone want to co-sponsor her for a visa?

"waving furry stoat paw in the air"

24 posted on 08/05/2007 10:37:43 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat
The English are the "white males" of the UK. The Celts are considered honorary Third World "indigenous peoples."

Interestingly, our own neo-Confederates base their claim to "Southron nationhood" on their Celtic identity. But don't expect them to criticize their Communist-supported brethren, or even ask why they are treated differently!

25 posted on 08/05/2007 10:41:08 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Lo' tishma` 'el-divrey hanavi' ha hu' 'o 'el-cholem hachalom hahu'; ki menasseh HaShem 'etkhem.)
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To: Stoat

Not Guilty. But I would like to be an unindicted co-conspirator.


26 posted on 08/05/2007 10:44:33 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: Stoat

Come here to the US.


27 posted on 08/05/2007 10:49:43 AM PDT by monkeycard (There is no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To: Stoat

Now, that’s the kind of environmentalist we need.


28 posted on 08/05/2007 10:50:45 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: krb

“Wow...I wouldn’t turn her down.”

I don’t think many people would. LOL. I’ll bet they are taking a long second look and whoever turned her down head is going to roll.


29 posted on 08/05/2007 10:54:03 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: SaveTheChief

Don’t forget diversity which only prolongs the pain and does not work.


30 posted on 08/05/2007 10:54:57 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: television is just wrong

Even thought I was qualified; I was turned down for a small business loan because I am married to a white man.

Update: Still married to him. Coming up on 24 years in Oct.


31 posted on 08/05/2007 10:56:30 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: Stoat

You’re Caucasian and your long-dead forbearors oppressed other long-dead people?

Well, F-— You!

(the sort of attitude you encounter in the rarified atmosphere of
academia)


32 posted on 08/05/2007 10:59:47 AM PDT by VOA
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To: freekitty

We do the same nonsense.

A friend of mine named Carlos was offered a job at HUD. They liked him quite a bit during the interview. But upon looking at his application closely, they discovered that he wasn’t Hispanic. His Mother simply liked the name Carlos. HUD retracted the offer!


33 posted on 08/05/2007 11:02:20 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: freekitty
Even thought I was qualified; I was turned down for a small business
loan because I am married to a white man.


I wonder if "minor legend" business success here in Oklahoma
caused that problem.

IIRC, a highly successful bidness in Oklahoma was started with
SBA loans taken out by a lady (using "Native American" status)
to start what became a booming bidness run by her (dare I say)
"paleface" spouse and workforce.

NO FLAMES PLEASE!!!
Plenty of Okies from across the spectrum of "Indian" to "white"
to "black" start and run a lot of successful bidnesses.

But I wonder if this one example caused the SBA to shut down the
"spouse as a front" avenue to loans based on some sort of "oppressed"
or "minority" status.
34 posted on 08/05/2007 11:08:09 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Stoat

Does she want to work in Los Angeles?


35 posted on 08/05/2007 11:08:53 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: whitedog57

” But upon looking at his application closely, they discovered that
he wasn’t Hispanic. His Mother simply liked the name Carlos.”

Good thing Juan Trippe was working in the private sector, building
American’s aviation industry and hastening the arrival of the Boeing 747.
(He was named after a Cuban step-grandfather, IIRC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Trippe


36 posted on 08/05/2007 11:12:13 AM PDT by VOA
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To: mnehrling

Another strike against her is the attempt to fix her teeth. How un-English!


37 posted on 08/05/2007 11:13:03 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: BurbankKarl
Does she want to work in Los Angeles?

Perhaps the Daily Mail reporter who is credited with writing this story (Mark Nicol) can contact her family and get that information.

Here is the Mail's contact information page:

Contact the Daily Mail and Mail on Sunday the Daily Mail

38 posted on 08/05/2007 11:23:27 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

The network I use to work at instructed us not to put “caucasian or white” on breakdowns when casting specific roles, even if it was what we were looking for. We could put “Hispanic,” “African-American,” etc., but not “caucasian”. The role’s ethnicity could not be mentioned when looking for whites. So stupid.


39 posted on 08/05/2007 11:23:44 AM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: Stoat

Note that they can’t even use the “prior discrimination” excuse.

This is pure, undiluted social engineering.


40 posted on 08/05/2007 11:26:36 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: Stoat

Geez. I’d start my own company to hire her!


41 posted on 08/05/2007 11:31:57 AM PDT by CaptRon (Pedicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: krb

Ditto... Can’t we find her a job over here?


42 posted on 08/05/2007 11:33:53 AM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar
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To: Stoat

So THAT’S what my future ex-wife looks like. Not bad.


43 posted on 08/05/2007 11:56:56 AM PDT by lowbridge
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Wo! If I’m Earth Czar, the assclown(s) that banned her are canned immediately, and she gets any job she wants.


44 posted on 08/05/2007 12:00:41 PM PDT by isom35
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Take a look America, this is your future.....

America invented this future more than a third of a century ago by that famous RINO Richard Nixon, who was also into wage and price controls, EPA, OSHA, and the 55-mph federal speed limit.

45 posted on 08/05/2007 12:01:17 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: VOA

I don’t know about OK. This happened in CA back in the 90’s.

Btw, my husband has Indian blood.


46 posted on 08/05/2007 12:20:12 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: freekitty
Don’t forget diversity which only prolongs the pain and does not work.

"Diversity" is the real bumper sticker slogan that will ruin all of Western Civilization.

47 posted on 08/05/2007 12:32:33 PM PDT by SaveTheChief (Chief Illiniwek (1926-2007))
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; freekitty

When you were rejected, did the idea of going into business for yourself ever cross your mind?


48 posted on 08/05/2007 12:41:24 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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To: B4Ranch

Gee, I was already into business for myself with my own money. Just wanted to expand.


49 posted on 08/05/2007 12:48:43 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Take a look America, this is your future.....

It's been here a long time. I once applied at a local power company, only to be told by the black interviewer that their next hires had to be female. Check out the gender breakdown at many government agencies. White males need not apply.

50 posted on 08/05/2007 12:58:17 PM PDT by aimhigh
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