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A Big Problem For Democrats (Joseph Farah On Democrats' Defeatism Alert)
Worldnetdaily.com ^ | 08/06/2007 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 08/05/2007 10:17:24 PM PDT by goldstategop

I don't know if this is a precipice from which there is any return for the party of Pelosi and Reid. These are turncoats in the truest form of the word. These are people who are secretly – and, now, not so secretly – praying for, hoping for and acting in the best interests of victory for Osama bin Laden and his cohorts who would chop off their heads just as fast as they would chop off yours and mine.

Imagine political power meaning so much to you that you would sell out your own country – perhaps even the very lives of your children and grandchildren – to retain it, consolidate it, expand it.

That's what it is all about with the party of Pelosi and Reid. It's not about ideology. It's not that they like al-Qaida or Islamo-fascism. But they do have enough disrespect for their nation that they would tolerate – even welcome – more death, more carnage, more crisis, more Sept. 11s.

I fear for our nation's future.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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Party Of Treason Exposed Bump

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 08/05/2007 10:17:30 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

Whom the gods destroy, they first make mad.


2 posted on 08/05/2007 10:20:22 PM PDT by Steely Tom
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To: goldstategop

Farah nailed it, good post.


3 posted on 08/05/2007 10:30:15 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: goldstategop

These Democrats today are the children of the Dr. Spock 1960’s. The World was them, only them, and still is.


4 posted on 08/05/2007 10:31:26 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: goldstategop
[. . . with a corrupt, megalomanical president fighting a war with no intention of winning. . .]

Nixon worked with what he inherited from LBJ. With his campaigns into NVA sanctuaries in Laos and Cambodia and the strategic bombing campaigns on Hanoi and Haiphong, Nixon waged a more intense, precise war. He also insinuated through diplomatic back channels that he could be forced to use nuclear weapons on North Vietnam. The North finally came to the peace table and stayed until an agreement was signed. After the bulk of US forces were withdrawn the South Vietnamese Army was able to beat back two major, bloody offensives from the North. Then Watergate removed Nixon and Congress cut off all funding and military assistance to RVN. The rest is sad history.

A student of popular history and the MSM would call Nixon a "corrupt megalomaniac." The real history is more complex:

http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20051101faessay84604/melvin-r-laird/iraq-learning-the-lessons-of-vietnam.html

5 posted on 08/05/2007 10:43:26 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: goldstategop
[. . . with a corrupt, megalomanical president fighting a war with no intention of winning. . .]

Nixon worked with what he inherited from LBJ. With his campaigns into NVA sanctuaries in Laos and Cambodia and the strategic bombing campaigns on Hanoi and Haiphong, Nixon waged a more intense, precise war. He also insinuated through diplomatic back channels that he could be forced to use nuclear weapons on North Vietnam. The North finally came to the peace table and stayed until an agreement was signed. After the bulk of US forces were withdrawn the South Vietnamese Army was able to beat back two major, bloody offensives from the North. Then Watergate removed Nixon and Congress cut off all funding and military assistance to RVN. The rest is sad history.

A student of popular history and the MSM would call Nixon a "corrupt megalomaniac." The real history is more complex:

http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20051101faessay84604/melvin-r-laird/iraq-learning-the-lessons-of-vietnam.html

6 posted on 08/05/2007 10:43:37 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Sorry for the double post.


7 posted on 08/05/2007 10:44:34 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: goldstategop
"That's why this admission from Clyburn, this confirmation of what we suspected all along about the Democrats, is so significant. The worst news Democrats could hear is that the forces of good are triumphing in Iraq."

I've kept my tagline the same for quite awhile now, because this is the most important issue in our political system right now -- we have a whole generation of MSM and Demagogues who have developed a powerful interest in our defeat in Iraq. They are Defeatocrats through and through. Yes, they want to see disaster in Iraq because they think it will help them politically. If/when enough of the public becomes convinced that the 'surge' is the correct course and is working, the political crisis for the Defeatocrats will become acute, and they will become ever more desperate.
8 posted on 08/05/2007 10:45:22 PM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: Enchante
What kind of political party do we have that can benefit politically only if their country loses abroad? The Democrats have twisted themselves into a pretzel and they don't know the way back to sanity. Just ask H. Barack Obama.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

9 posted on 08/05/2007 10:48:24 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

It was worth it, Brad.


10 posted on 08/05/2007 10:49:10 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for those in the womb.)
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To: rockinqsranch; goldstategop
First:

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There is a book (now available in paperback ):

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Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left
(Hardcover)
by David Horowitz

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And reviews:

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Editorial Reviews

Rich Lowry, Editor National Review

David Horowitz is synonymous with pyrotechnics. A historian and polemicist of the first order, he is paid the ultimate compliment --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.

Davis Hanson, Author, Ripples of Battle

An original look at those who want us to fail in the Middle East, both at home and abroad. The --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.

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See all Editorial Reviews

Fascinating Analysis of Leftist Goals, August 13, 2006

Reviewer: N. Sincerity - See all my reviews

A former 1960s radical, Horowitz is well-acquainted with the Leftist mindset. In this book, he strives to explain the modern alliance between left wing progressivists and radical Islamofascists. He argues that this alliance is based on a common desire to destroy Western capitalism. Leftist sympathy with Islamofascist ideas makes no sense from an intellectual point of view, given that countries ruled by radical Islamists are among the most racist, sexist, theocratic states in the world today. However, Leftists have recognized that they can benefit politically from destructive terrorist attacks on the Western world. A West under attack can be made to turn on its leaders in fear and desperation (as they did in Spain after the Madrid train bombings). Only once people reject current government structures can the Left execute its anti-capitalist revolution and build a new reality that mirrors the Leftist view of utopia.

The complete and utter idealogical hypocrisy of the Islamofascist-Leftist alliance is distressing, but as Horowitz reminds us,

Leftists radicals truly believe the ends justify the means.

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And there is this:

Terrorists in Their Own Words -(A compilation drawn from translations ......)

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Islamist terrorists have long been at war with the United States and frequently have proclaimed their determination to win the war. In fact, they see their enemies' unwillingness to acknowledge this war as an act of cowardice. If their enemies refuse to wear the mantle of warrior, terrorists assume that they are weak, lacking in honor, and spiritually infe­rior—and the notion that their enemy is vulnerable emboldens them. Failing to acknowledge that we are at war only encourages the enemy to be more warlike.

Conclusive proof that terrorists are at war with us requires little more than reading their own words. A compilation drawn from translations of a number of authoritative sources illustrates the nature of the challenge that America and its allies face and what needs to be done to combat it.

11 posted on 08/05/2007 10:55:38 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Granddaughters!!!)
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To: SandRat; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; blam; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; Allegra; onyx; ...

fyi


12 posted on 08/05/2007 10:57:31 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Granddaughters!!!)
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Imagine political power meaning so much to you that you would sell out your own country – perhaps even the very lives of your children and grandchildren – to retain it, consolidate it, expand it.
No need to imagine -- the Dhimmicrats are the Party of Treason.
14 posted on 08/05/2007 11:07:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, August 6, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: goldstategop
Those idiots will do anything for power. They say Bush is more of a terrorist the OBL. The Internet has unleashed the most vile and hateful people the Democrat party has to offer. I suppose they were always out there but no one would listen to them. The Internet has given them a collective voice.
15 posted on 08/05/2007 11:19:18 PM PDT by skimask (The Democratic mantra.."Appeasement works. I'd rather live my life on my knees than die standing up)
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To: goldstategop
You know this; I know this and most folks on this website know this. The question is:
HOW DO WE CONVINCE THE VOTERS OF THIS BEFORE NOVEMBER '08?
16 posted on 08/06/2007 12:24:01 AM PDT by no dems (Dear God, how long are you going to let Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd and John Conyers live?)
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To: goldstategop

There is an answer to this problem but it would unfortunately require more nerve than exists presently at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue:

Direct Attorney General Alberto VO5 to place the entire Democrat leadership under arrest for subverting the war effort, giving aid and comfort to our enemies, to encouraging the fifth column within our borders, and misappropriation of defense funding (can we say $150 million bucks to Yellow-Stain Murtha folks?).

And after placing said subversives under arrest, wait for the first squawks out of the New York Slimes and their America-hating brethren, and lock up those al Qaeda sympathizers too.

Send them all to Gitmo for the duration of the War.

Well, it was a nice thought anyway.


17 posted on 08/06/2007 12:40:46 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Nixon had no more intention of winning that war than LBJ did.


18 posted on 08/06/2007 1:32:06 AM PDT by jwh_Denver (Ok, it's time for the Republicans to start ripping themselves apart.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Nixon had no more intention of winning that war than LBJ did.


19 posted on 08/06/2007 1:32:10 AM PDT by jwh_Denver (Ok, it's time for the Republicans to start ripping themselves apart.)
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To: Kaslin; Jen's Mom

ping

Read the article.


20 posted on 08/06/2007 3:07:26 AM PDT by Tut
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“However, Leftists have recognized that they can benefit politically from destructive terrorist attacks on the Western world. A West under attack can be made to turn on its leaders in fear and desperation (as they did in Spain after the Madrid train bombings). Only once people reject current government structures can the Left execute its anti-capitalist revolution and build a new reality that mirrors the Leftist view of utopia.”

Thanks for this Ernest_at_the_Beach as it is quite true. Haven’t read the book yet, but will with this although is preaching to the choir so-to-speak with myself. I was raised mired in Liberal perspective saved only by the fluke of learning to read early in life, and I read considerably. (Lifelong Conservative from a Liberal family) I was actually punished for doing so. Leave it at that.

Perhaps a discussion of the self centeredness (due lack of belief in God) is also in the book. It is this aspect of the Liberal I often address in my posts. The Liberal percieves oneself above all others, as only those whom lack belief in higher authority do, thus selectively deaf to discussion of others perspectives.

Yes, they do believe the Islamic Terrorists are their foot soldiers, and they do believe they can “TALK” to, and “CONTROL” them due their SUPERIORIORITY.

Liberals don’t get it...THEY would/will be the first to lose their heads when/if THEY (Libs) successfully cause the defeat of the West.

I strongly believe we can take back America with a coordinated effort by Adults. My Dr. Spock commentary is analogeous to the childishness of the Godless children that is the mindset of the mainstream Liberal. Their followers be damned as they are the scum of the Earth simply living as Parasites off of those whom produce.

I’m trying to keep this brief, so hopefully not resulting in confusion. One cannot discuss the basis of the Liberal in “sound bites”.


21 posted on 08/06/2007 4:41:59 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: goldstategop


22 posted on 08/06/2007 4:56:22 AM PDT by Stepan12 ( "We are all girlymen now." Conservative reaction to Ann Coulter's anti PC joke)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Sorry for the double post.

Don't worry about it... you know REAL history.

23 posted on 08/06/2007 5:00:23 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Great article on Vietnam / Iraq from Melvin Laird, thanks for the link!


24 posted on 08/06/2007 5:27:42 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Tut
Thanks for the ping.

Like my tagline says the surge is working and the liberals know it

25 posted on 08/06/2007 6:04:05 AM PDT by Kaslin (The Surge is working and the li(e)berals know it)
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To: jwh_Denver
“Nixon had no more intention of winning that war than LBJ did.”

These guys have a different viewpoint of “winning.” In the beginning Vietnam was important because it was a land route into China. Later it was an expendable battleground on which communists resources could be drawn while the more developed countries of the western Pacific built up military and political strength. There were insurgencies in the Philippines, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Burma, etc. at this time. These countries prevailed. What was left of Indochina was abandoned when U.S. domestic politics favored disengagement.

26 posted on 08/06/2007 7:06:27 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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