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Japan remembers Hiroshima
Reuters ^ | August 6, 2007 | Toru Hanai

Posted on 08/06/2007 5:13:57 AM PDT by period end of story

HIROSHIMA, Japan (Reuters) - Japan marked the 62nd anniversary of Hiroshima's atomic bombing with a solemn ceremony on Monday as the city's mayor criticized the United States for refusing to give up its nuclear weapons program.

Tens of thousands of elderly survivors, children and dignitaries gathered at the Peace Memorial Park, near ground zero where the bomb was dropped, to remember the more than 250,000 people who ultimately died from the blast.

"Even to those who managed to survive, it was hell where they envied the dead," Hiroshima Mayor Tadatoshi Akiba told the crowd, describing scenes from the bombing such as charred faces and torn clothes.

In a speech followed by the release of 1,000 white doves into the sky, Akiba singled out the United States for failing to halt nuclear proliferation.

"The Japanese government, which has the duty to work for the abolition of nuclear weapons through international law, should protect its pacifist constitution which it should be proud of, and clearly say 'no' to antiquated and wrong U.S. policies."

The crowd bowed their heads for a moment of silence as two children rang the Peace Bell at 8:15 a.m., the same time the Enola Gay B-29 bomber dropped the bomb on the western Japanese city on August 6, 1945.

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1 posted on 08/06/2007 5:13:58 AM PDT by period end of story
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To: period end of story
Japan remembers Hiroshima

Too bad Islamist Terrorist Nations cant say the same thing.

2 posted on 08/06/2007 5:17:50 AM PDT by Long Island Pete
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To: period end of story
I understand that they don’t do much on December 7th though....
3 posted on 08/06/2007 5:19:32 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: period end of story

I dropped a bomb 15 years ago today, My darling son was born : )


4 posted on 08/06/2007 5:23:51 AM PDT by alisasny (RIP Lt. Kevin “Kojak” Davis BLUE ANGELS #6 THANKYOU!!)
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To: period end of story

I’d say it’s preferable to the memorial that would have been held for the million or more who would have died in a homeland invasion. Hiroshima and Nagasaki should never be “celebrated” as good things: They were grim choices that were only slightly better than the other grim choices before this nation in 1945.

I guess we will never hear from them, “We are deeply sorry that our leaders made this necessary.”


5 posted on 08/06/2007 5:24:06 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (It's never a good time to get sucked into an evil vortex.)
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To: SlowBoat407

It was grim, but Japan, surely, would have used the bomb had they harnessed the technology first.


6 posted on 08/06/2007 5:29:31 AM PDT by period end of story (What is the antonym of competition?)
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To: period end of story
"Even to those who managed to survive, it was hell where they envied the dead," Hiroshima Mayor Tadatoshi Akiba told the crowd...

Just once I'd like to hear such people say: "We regret our heinous attack on Pearl Harbor and we realize that what we did was wrong and the consequence of those actions was the only two nuclear attacks in history. Our bad."

7 posted on 08/06/2007 5:29:31 AM PDT by econjack
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To: period end of story

Because America continues to provide the military support that Japan needs, Japan will never have to dip its toes into the murky waters of self-preservation, national security or the viability of nuclear weapons.


8 posted on 08/06/2007 5:29:42 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Life isn't fair. It's just fairer than death, that's all.--William Goldman)
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To: period end of story
I wonder how often the Japanese "remember" Nanking...

or Bataan...

or Palawan...

et cetera...
9 posted on 08/06/2007 5:30:06 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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To: SlowBoat407

Rough and Ready Island near Stockton, CA. was where the invasion was to shove off.


10 posted on 08/06/2007 5:30:53 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: econjack


NO regrets on my part. They had it coming.
11 posted on 08/06/2007 5:31:44 AM PDT by Kozak
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To: econjack

Goodness, you are starting to sound like the Chinese, with them harping on and on about WWII.


12 posted on 08/06/2007 5:33:04 AM PDT by Philly Nomad
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To: period end of story

What, August already?


13 posted on 08/06/2007 5:34:37 AM PDT by metesky (Brought To You By Satriales Aerosol PorkChop Mist - The Finest New Jersey Has To Offer!)
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To: alisasny
I dropped a bomb 15 years ago today, My darling son was born : )

Priorities, girl!

14 posted on 08/06/2007 5:34:49 AM PDT by period end of story (What is the antonym of competition?)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

The Japanese government pays the US tab for “security.”


15 posted on 08/06/2007 5:35:40 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: period end of story

Maybe they should remember Pearl Harbor! Without that there would not have been Hiroshima.


16 posted on 08/06/2007 5:40:42 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Kozak
HELL YES! Japan hasn’t been a problem to anyone in over 60 years. Do you think this might work on Islam is we dropped one on Mecca?
17 posted on 08/06/2007 5:41:07 AM PDT by Blue Collar Republican (Send troupes to the southern border, just like Mexico.)
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To: ontap

Japan views itself as a victim of WW2, not an offender. The same also applies to Italy, by the way.


18 posted on 08/06/2007 5:45:46 AM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: period end of story

Japan should keep remembering this day, until they finally figure out that they brought it on themselves. It may take another 50 years to get to that point.

C.W.


19 posted on 08/06/2007 5:57:31 AM PDT by colderwater
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To: period end of story

I remember my uncle, killed on Guam by a Japanese sniper. He wouldn’t have been on Guam [and previously on Guadalcanal, and other spots], but for the Japanese. Hell with them.


20 posted on 08/06/2007 6:00:37 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

Remember, Japan’s constitution forbids warfare as an instrument of policy. It was written by Dugout Doug.


21 posted on 08/06/2007 6:03:20 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: period end of story

Without a doubt.

But, of course, Japan was focusing its resources on biological warfare agents, which were tested on POWs, and Chinese men, women and children and analyzed with vivisection experiments.

Don’t want nothing, don’t start nothing.


22 posted on 08/06/2007 6:09:41 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: period end of story

The Japanese started a war with us...

After the experiences of Iwo Jima, Saipan, Okinawa, and a dozen other island conflicts in the Pacific, we knew what to expect if an invasion of the Japanese mainland had to take place.

President Truman rightly decided that it was better that one hundred thousand Japanese die than one more American Sailor, Soldier, or Marine. Add to that the fact that we were killing more Japanese with conventional / firebombing raids on Japanese cities than either the Hiroshima or Nagasaki bombs did. Use of the bombs probably saved millions of lives. And ended the war!


23 posted on 08/06/2007 6:21:06 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Kozak

Damned Right! Remember that picture always!


24 posted on 08/06/2007 6:29:33 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: Kozak

I just sorry they had only two to drop.


25 posted on 08/06/2007 6:31:52 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I’m not saying their constitution should be changed or that we should leave their country. I just believe it is too easy to throw stones at the government of a nation that provides your security.


26 posted on 08/06/2007 6:39:48 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Life isn't fair. It's just fairer than death, that's all.--William Goldman)
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To: PzLdr
I fail to produce any sympathy for them...

My father was a young airman who just finished his his training, and likley would have been deployed, had the Bomb not been dropped.

Did the Mayor also describe how the japanese treated captured US airmen?...
27 posted on 08/06/2007 6:45:08 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

Happens every year in early August.


28 posted on 08/06/2007 6:45:09 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: period end of story
America remembers Pearl Harbor:


29 posted on 08/06/2007 6:51:46 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: period end of story
Of course the historical revisionists will say that the US bombed Hiroshima because of racism and the Japanese were wholly blameless for WW-II. These inflated casualty figures cited for the bombing of Hiroshima would be nothing compared to the casualties that would have occurred if the US had invaded mainland Japan. The US military had stockpiles of poison gas already in the Pacific and would likely have used that in addition to continued fire bombing of Japanese cities as part of the invasion.
30 posted on 08/06/2007 7:06:01 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: ontap
Maybe they should remember Pearl Harbor!

And Nanking....and Manilla...and Unit 731....

31 posted on 08/06/2007 7:08:34 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: period end of story
Must...fight...the...temptation...

must...not...speak...

32 posted on 08/06/2007 7:12:51 AM PDT by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops without actually being helpful to them.)
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To: period end of story

Maybe you’ll think twice about attacking us next time, morons.


33 posted on 08/06/2007 7:14:39 AM PDT by newguy357
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"... and clearly say 'no' to antiquated and wrong U.S. policies."

Well, Tadatoshi, those policies kept you from being occupied by the Red Army and if you think that would have been a picnic you're nuts. The next time you turn on a light switch in your office you can thank those same Yankee imperialist dogs who rebuilt your country after we destroyed it and figured out how to harness the power from a nuclear reaction to run the 53 nuclear power plants in Japan and for keeping your sorry, ungrateful a** free for 62 years.

34 posted on 08/06/2007 7:18:16 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: period end of story

I believe Japan was getting ready to drop a “dirty bomb” on San Francisco.


35 posted on 08/06/2007 7:24:28 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: period end of story
The mayor of Hiroshima has demanded that the US renounce nuclear armament in the past, most recently in an letter to the editor in the WSJ in January 2007.

A week later, my response to the mayor's letter was published in the WSJ. Here is the text of my letter:

Why Are We Still Free? Because We're Vigilant and Nuclear-Equipped

With all due respect to Hiroshima Mayor Tadatoshi Akiba ("With 20/20 Foresight, Mayors Around the World Join to End Nuclear War," Letters, Jan. 23), nuclear deterrence has protected U.S. soil from conventional attack, keeping our country inviolate since a few years after Imperial Japanese forces landed in the Aleutian Islands in June of 1942. For more than 60 years, the U.S. nuclear triad (aircraft, naval vessels and ICBMs) has provided the guarantee of massive retaliation in response to an attack by a rogue state, a deterrent unmatched by any other means of defense.

Prior to the development of nuclear weapons, the security of nations rested on conventional forces. These forces, while strong, were not infallible and could be bested by a dastardly surprise attack, as evidenced by the terrible events of Dec. 7, 1941. With no fear of instantaneous obliteration by way of an irresistible retaliatory nuclear strike, a nation, even in the 21st century, might feel emboldened to launch a bold strike against a fellow nation.

While the events of Sept. 11, 2001, prove that the U.S. faces a new enemy of a stateless nature, the remnants of 20th century rogue states, like Iran and North Korea, remain a threatening reality in the new millennium.

Mayor Akiba refers to the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as the victims of nuclear attack. I'd ask him to consider those cities as the victims of Imperial Japanese national arrogance and temporary insanity, from a sad period in history when Japan was a rogue nation, perpetrating brutalities upon the peace-loving peoples of several countries. Until the propensity to launch ruthless surprise attacks is somehow removed from the human psyche, I must respectfully disagree with Mayor Akiba and call for the retention of U.S. nuclear retaliatory capabilities.

As an American, I sleep soundly knowing that Trident-equipped U.S. naval submarines lurk deep beneath the waves, Minuteman III missiles wait silently in their silos on the Great Plains and Air Force bombers are ready to deploy, should any nation attempt some desperate gambit and attack our country. The U.S. has the stated position of using nuclear weapons only in retaliation to an attack on our country. Until we abrogate that commitment, I support our remaining vigilant, resolute and nuclear-equipped.

I'm still awaiting a response from the Mayor. Funny, he hasn't responded.....

36 posted on 08/06/2007 7:36:36 AM PDT by Panzerfaust
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To: A.A. Cunningham

The US Army Signal Corps rewired Japan after the war. 60 cycle electricity was something entirely new to the country...


38 posted on 08/06/2007 7:55:43 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: period end of story
...the city's mayor criticized the United States for refusing to give up its nuclear weapons program.

Every Japanese citizen should thank Almighty God for the atomic bomb. It saved them, and us, from a hideous bloodbath.

39 posted on 08/06/2007 7:57:42 AM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: period end of story

The Japs have a very selective memory!


40 posted on 08/06/2007 9:44:17 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Afghan protest - "Death to Dog Washers!")
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They certainly would have used WMD's.

I believe they also had war gases prepared to use on our invasion forces. The civilian casualties from that alone would have been very high.

41 posted on 08/06/2007 11:27:09 AM PDT by magslinger (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors. And miss. R.A.Heinlein)
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To: PzLdr
Remember, Japan’s constitution forbids warfare as an instrument of policy. It was written by Dugout Doug.

...you mean "Bugout Doug", don't you?

42 posted on 08/06/2007 11:36:47 AM PDT by nomodem
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To: econjack

Come now. Only the United States must always apologize for every action it ever took. Hadn’t you learned that from your US public school?


43 posted on 08/06/2007 11:39:15 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: period end of story

Ozzy Osbourne put it best:

Like moths to a flame
Is man never gonna change
Time’s seen untold aggression
And infliction of pain
If that’s the only thing that’s stopping war

Then thank god for the bomb
Thank god for the bomb
Thank god for the bomb
Thank god for the bomb

Nuke ya nuke ya

War is just another game
Tailor made for the insane
But make a threat of their annihilation
And nobody wants to play
If that’s the only thing that keeps the peace

Then thank god for the bomb
Thank god for the bomb
Thank god for the bomb
Thank god for the bomb

Nuke ya nuke ya

Today was tomorrow yesterday
It’s funny how the time can slip away
The face of the doomsday clock
Has launched a thousand wars
As we near the final hour
Time is the only foe we have

When war is obsolete
I’ll thank god for the war’s defeat
But any talk about hell freezing over
Is all said with tongue in cheek
Until the day the war drums beat no more

Then thank god for the bomb
Thank god for the bomb
Thank god for the bomb
Thank god for the bomb

Nuke ya nuke ya


44 posted on 08/06/2007 11:40:33 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: period end of story

Do you suppose the WWII-era Japanese newspapers published a lot of hand-wringing articles worrying over “why the Americans hate us”?


45 posted on 08/06/2007 11:41:39 AM PDT by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: Rummyfan

“President Truman rightly decided that it was better that one hundred thousand Japanese die than one more American Sailor, Soldier, or Marine.”

And THIS is the essential question any time this question of war comes up: WHO IS BETTER? WHO DESERVES BETTER TO LIVE?

All the PC nail-biters are too afraid to even ask this question much less answer it.


46 posted on 08/06/2007 11:44:27 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Sloth

I shudder to think how things had been if today’s media was around during WWII.


47 posted on 08/06/2007 11:46:02 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Sloth

ROFLMAO


48 posted on 08/06/2007 11:54:59 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Only the United States must always apologize for every action it ever took.

You're right...but I don't have to like it...

49 posted on 08/06/2007 11:55:33 AM PDT by econjack
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To: Michael81Dus
Japan views itself as a victim of WW2, not an offender.

I never thought of it that way, but yes, they're playing the victim game.

50 posted on 08/06/2007 12:06:52 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (The Morlocks are above-ground now, and nobody seems to care.)
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