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Steel firm owner jailed (Illegals had fake welding certs & worked on bridges!)
Sun Herald ^ | 8-04-07 | Michael Newsom

Posted on 08/06/2007 3:30:50 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo

The owner of Tarrasco Steel, a company that supplied workers on the Biloxi Bay Bridge, was arrested and charged with hiring illegal immigrants on projects in three states. Some had improper welding certification.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents arrested Jose S. Gonzalez, 32, at his office in Greenville Thursday, according to a news release. Tarrasco Steel was hired as a subcontractor for rebar installation services to major bridge projects in Mississippi, Louisiana and Tennessee. The federal government considers those bridges as critical infrastructure, and they were part of routine inspections of facilities that if damaged could pose a threat to national security and public safety.

"There is a serious public safety concern when illegal aliens, who are not authorized to work in the country legally, and who do not possess valid welding certifications, are employed in the construction of bridges in our communities," said Michael A. Holt, special agent in charge of the Customs Office of Investigations in New Orleans, in a news release.

On inspections of several construction sites March 29, representatives of several federal agencies confirmed the majority of Tarrasco Steel employees were using bogus Social Security numbers, and 77 immigrants were arrested. Twenty-six of them worked for Tarrasco Steel. Some of them worked on the Biloxi bridge, the Huey P. Long bridge in New Orleans, and a project on Interstate 40 in Memphis, among others, the news release said.

In April, nine Tarrasco employees caught in the March 29 operations were charged with fraudulent use of immigration documents and Social Security account numbers. Investigators served a search warrant at the Tarrasco office in Greenville and they got copies of payroll records. They allege Gonzalez falsified information on the I-9 Employee Eligibility forms. Investigators learned that several workers had inappropriate welding certifications.

Several South Mississippi law enforcement agencies participated in the investigation, including the Harrison County Sheriff's Department, the Mississippi Bureau of Investigation and the Biloxi Police Department.

Gonzalez was indicted on July 29 and $457,368 has been seized from Tarrasco accounts, the news release said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: aliens; bridges; corruption; crimalien; enforcement; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; ssfraud; tarrascosteel
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1 posted on 08/06/2007 3:30:58 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: SeafoodGumbo

This would no doubt be a wide spread practice if the government would look into it....but they are only doing the work Americans dont want...


2 posted on 08/06/2007 3:35:41 PM PDT by JoanneSD (Illegals represented without taxation.. Citizens taxed without representation)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Jorge Arbusto is deeply saddened.


3 posted on 08/06/2007 3:40:11 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

You have to come up with minority subs from somewhere to fullful the set-aside/quota/’goal’ if you want the contract.


4 posted on 08/06/2007 3:42:40 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: SeafoodGumbo
Tarrasco Steel was hired as a subcontractor for rebar installation services to major bridge projects in Mississippi, Louisiana and Tennessee..

Glad they caught these guys, but...

You don't need a welding certificate to install rebar. There is usually no welding involved. Also very easy to tell if the work was done properly.

Finally, want to bet the states involved promoted this firm to get minority procurement credits?

Reaping what we sow.

5 posted on 08/06/2007 3:42:41 PM PDT by BigBobber
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Note to self: Stay the hell off Biloxi Bay Bridge.........


6 posted on 08/06/2007 3:45:47 PM PDT by Red Badger (All I know about Minnesota, I learned from Garrison Keilor.............)
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To: JoanneSD

SSDD


7 posted on 08/06/2007 3:49:12 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Another government lie. It looks like the illegals are doing the jobs that Americans would do and better.

It really makes me angry when our government lies to us about illegals being underpaid. I just read about an illegal here doing sheet rock for money than I earn. I am not sure if he is paying taxes; however he is receiving benefits.

What is going through GW’s mind that he would take jobs, money, food and shelter away from real Americans. People that voted for him?


8 posted on 08/06/2007 3:49:57 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: Red Badger

If the Biloxi Bay Bridge is Hwy 90, its not even close to
being done. I just got back from vacation and had to go
around up to I-10 and then back down the next exit west.

HA HA HA, long story, had to tell it.....LOL


9 posted on 08/06/2007 3:50:55 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude ()...temporarily out of service ....()
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To: WKB; wardaddy; WileyPink; jmax; Islander7; 2ndDivisionVet; somniferum; flying Elvis; MagnoliaMS; ...

Mississippi Ping,,,,,,,,


10 posted on 08/06/2007 3:52:29 PM PDT by jmax
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To: ThreePuttinDude

Good! That’s the way we go anyway!.......


11 posted on 08/06/2007 3:53:13 PM PDT by Red Badger (All I know about Minnesota, I learned from Garrison Keilor.............)
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To: Red Badger

I have to drive over the Huey P. Long bridge sometimes. I’ll be thinking about this the next time I’m on there.


12 posted on 08/06/2007 3:54:25 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Who was doing the repairs on the collapsed bridge in Minneapolis?


13 posted on 08/06/2007 3:54:33 PM PDT by donna (They hand off my culture & citizenship to criminals & then call me racist for objecting?)
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To: BigBobber

There are certain locales where you do need a welding cert to install re-bar. In Kalifornia, on bridge work, it gets all messed up but I had one contract where we did have to have certs on the welders - never could find out who actually required it, but it cost the taxpayers extra.


14 posted on 08/06/2007 3:55:04 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Beware of the seminar poster.)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

BTTT!


15 posted on 08/06/2007 3:58:13 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

There are a huge number of different welding certificates and most are hard to get since the welding is difficult. It is one thing to hire welders with proper certification and another to hire uncertified welders who might have excellent welding skills. Big problem for the construction company since it involves bonding and that is big money.


16 posted on 08/06/2007 4:03:19 PM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Williams Bros in Houston has hired illegals in Houston forever.
1979 was the gateway year.
Drive in Houston and you will see what I mean.

When the Harris County courthouse being built,
it was raided by La Migra in 97.
The concrete sub lost over 50% of their workforce.
25% of those were back to work within two weeks.


17 posted on 08/06/2007 4:06:03 PM PDT by Bibman (Don't tread on me!)
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To: SeafoodGumbo
"Gonzalez was indicted on July 29 and $457,368 has been seized from Tarrasco accounts, the news release said."

I can understand this guy being prosecuted. He has the right to his day in court. However, on what basis can "our" government just go in and seize nearly 1/2 a mil out of a company's bank account? Its not like he's been proven guilty yet in a court of law. These "government seizures" seem to be getting out of hand in my mind.

18 posted on 08/06/2007 4:09:42 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Why would anyone be remotely surprised by this? The fact that they are is amazing. Facts are out there if one chooses to avail themselves of them.

Otherwise don’t gripe and just live with the wave of the future.


19 posted on 08/06/2007 4:11:38 PM PDT by indylindy (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

That happened out here in the early ‘80’s. The Washington Public Power Supply System was going balls to the walls on constructing nuclear power plants. (http://www.historylink.org/essays/output.cfm?file_id=5482)

Several West Coast companies the biggest being Familian, was caught doing the exact same thing faking certs on imported steel, pipe and valves and altering the look of the material to resemble domestic material. A couple of V.P.’s of Familian served time.

A small shop in Seattle Tsubota Steel & Pipe was caught painting, restamping product sold to the WPPSS contract buyers imported product Tsubota’s V.P. deemed having equivalent qualities as domestic steel and valves costing two thirds more. Tsubota would provide samples of material ordered by WPPSS to independent testing labs for certification and substitute the delivered order with counterfeit material. This was CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL FOR NUCLEAR REACTORS.

It was a widespread problem. Every other supplier in the area had either done something similar or had been asked to by a WPPSS contract buyer. People went to jail, long time companies failed, WPPSS became the largest muni-bond default in American history and nuclear power never became a reality in the Pacific Northwest. We actually had a female nuclear scientist as Governor at the time who would have been remembered as a visionary had the nuke plants came on line. However, she was a democrat and like anything else socialist government does, it quickly achieved FUBAR status.


20 posted on 08/06/2007 4:13:04 PM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: SeafoodGumbo
On inspections of several construction sites March 29, representatives of several federal agencies confirmed the majority of Tarrasco Steel employees were using bogus Social Security numbers, and 77 immigrants were arrested. Twenty-six of them worked for Tarrasco Steel. Some of them worked on the Biloxi bridge, the Huey P. Long bridge in New Orleans, and a project on Interstate 40 in Memphis, among others, the news release said.

Issue bid to rebuild bridged and let Tarrasco steel and the prime contractor pay for the rebuild. Then action off all their assets as a fine.

21 posted on 08/06/2007 4:17:57 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: BigBobber

There are all those old stories about construction projects where ribar is moved after an inspection in order to save costs.


22 posted on 08/06/2007 4:22:13 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: 2111USMC
However, on what basis can "our" government just go in and seize nearly 1/2 a mil out of a company's bank account?

Since he was falsifying the welding papers, I would say he was pocketing the difference of what he had listed as salary and not paying taxes on his stolen money. Therefore I would bet it was an IRS seizure and it would be legal.

23 posted on 08/06/2007 4:25:07 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: bigfootbob

Ah the good ol’ days... I was a steamfitter welder at plants 1,2, & 4 and we used to complain about the crappy welds on the prefabbed pipe all of the time. Of course our welds had to be perfect (100% x-ray) right next to a weld that had porosity, wires sticking through it, and blow holes, (basically name the defect and it was right there) and the QC/QA would do nothing about it.

As far as welding rebar, the Ironheads were certified CAD welders to splice rebar together. Basically a special coupling that is placed over the ends of both pieces and electrically charged to weld the two together. Lots of big sparks when they did that...


24 posted on 08/06/2007 4:33:28 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: SeafoodGumbo

I wonder what it takes to get a welding certificate. And I wonder how many bridges were built in this country with non-certificate-wielding welders. And I wonder how many of those bridges collapsed.


25 posted on 08/06/2007 4:35:20 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: BigBobber
I was thinking the same thing. The only welding I can think of is steel studs to a plate and that’s done with a stud gun. It’s pretty hard to screw up that, and there’s no credentials required. Rebar is overlapped and tied. Sometimes an exposed plate in a piece of precast has something welded to it, but that’s not for structural purposes usually. Sometimes a cross brace between two girders, but once the deck is poured, how much are those contributing? Girders are generally bolted if built up steel sections. If precast concrete, then they secured by a poured in place bulkhead.

I think the only welding the mexicans are doing is on some false work. That’s all tore down before any traffic crosses.

26 posted on 08/06/2007 4:36:02 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

See Post #24...


27 posted on 08/06/2007 4:40:09 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: shotgun

Cad welding is done with gunpowder.
Electricians also use the pots for ground cable.

“Ironhead till I’m dead!”


28 posted on 08/06/2007 4:41:29 PM PDT by Bibman (Don't tread on me!)
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To: mamelukesabre

Cadwelding is done only when the engineer requires it!
Not done very much anymore.

I can remember when Americans tyed rebar.
Black, White, Lumbi Indians fron NC were big into it!


29 posted on 08/06/2007 4:48:19 PM PDT by Bibman (Don't tread on me!)
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To: shotgun

Splicing rebar with gunpowder? When was this? 50 years ago?

To my knowledge, there is no rebar splicing done that way in the field. It is tied with tie wire. The theory is that the bond to the concrete creates a coupling between the two rebar ends. The ends have to be overlapped a certain minimal distance as specified in the bridge code.

Now, on a building with column and beam intersections, maybe there is an application, but I really don’t think this is done anymore on bridges.


30 posted on 08/06/2007 4:48:50 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: petitfour

I took a 2 year tech program at Columbia Basin College in Pasco, WA. 1 year plate welding, 1 year pipe welding. After that I went down to the union hall and they sent me out on the job. There you go through the weld test lab and get all of your certifications....


31 posted on 08/06/2007 4:50:42 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: Bibman

Hey, like I said I was steamfitter. we had all of the conditions and gravy work compared to you guys...Never quite figured out the mentallity of your average Ironhead...Not that that is bad thing just alot harder work and working conditions...


32 posted on 08/06/2007 4:54:44 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: mamelukesabre

Have you ever worked heavy construction?


33 posted on 08/06/2007 4:57:31 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: shotgun

I worked in a lab that tested experimental bridge designs. We built full scale sections of bridges and then broke them with huge hydraulic jacks to see how strong they were. Concrete only though, no steel. Concrete bridge girders and concrete decks. I had to know some construction, some engineering, and how to run the computers that ran the hydraulics and sensors.

I worked in the engineering office of a company that built parking garages too. But not anymore.


34 posted on 08/06/2007 5:08:53 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: RightWhale

“There are a huge number of different welding certificates and most are hard to get since the welding is difficult. It is one thing to hire welders with proper certification and another to hire uncertified welders who might have excellent welding skills. Big problem for the construction company since it involves bonding and that is big money.”

I was at the local welding supply shop the other day and got to talking with the sales clerk. He said the illegals were undercutting the American welders here in Longmont, Co. The contractors are hiring them knowing full well they are illegal.


35 posted on 08/06/2007 5:11:44 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: mamelukesabre

I worked 15 years in the trade and finally got out and got my Civil Engineering degree, and now I am PE. I didn’t want to end up a broke down old construction worker...Not a lot of need for steamfitters on bridges but did work on a lot of reactors, refineries, and pulp mills across this country...


36 posted on 08/06/2007 5:12:43 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: shotgun

...lots of neat welding here....

http://arcfabrication.com/

These guys did a nice job repairing my scrunched untra-rare Termignoni Farne’ big tube exhaust for my Ducati 888.

I get major wood lookin’ at those Ti frames!

Whew!


37 posted on 08/06/2007 5:13:23 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: bigfootbob
nuclear power never became a reality in the Pacific Northwest

Overall good comment but the operating nuclear power reactor 11 miles from me might beg to differ.

38 posted on 08/06/2007 5:14:21 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: taxed2death

I can see why!!! I wonder if they would make some for my ‘05 Springer???


39 posted on 08/06/2007 5:19:31 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: steve86

You live in Richland???


40 posted on 08/06/2007 5:20:30 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: shotgun

I’m currently in the boiler repair/installation trade. Small stuff mostly. Possibly will get out soon and maybe take a semi technical position in a power plant or maybe on a maintenance crew of some place that has lots of boilers. I also have a BSCE. Don’t use it though. Got the FE but not the PE. I’ve found I can’t stand blue prints or calcs or office politics. I gotta be in the field somehow. I’m currently doing both estimating and repair work and have the responsibility of keeping the companies ‘R’ stamp up to date and all repairs legit. THat’s about as much calcs as I can stand.

I even went to grad school, but couldn’t stand it. That’s how I got the gig at the bridge testing lab.


41 posted on 08/06/2007 5:22:49 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: donna

I think it was illegal Native Americans.


42 posted on 08/06/2007 5:23:11 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: dljordan
In my opinion, welding certificates are kindof a scam. Anyone with the ambition can make up his own welding procedure and get it approved with a fee and a testing facility. Then using that “made up” procedure, he can certify anyone he wants that can make a weld that will pass a strength test. Most places take the easy way out and “buy” someone’s pre-approved procedure and get their guys certified on that. It makes it easier on the industry since now that guy is qualified to weld for anyone that “owns” that pre-approved procedure.

But this is not the way the system was originally designed to work. Welding procedures were invented by each individual entrepreneur, and he then paid to have it approved. He basically taught his own guys how to weld.

43 posted on 08/06/2007 5:29:43 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: SeafoodGumbo
Bad timing to be caught using illegal aliens with fake welding certs to build bridges!


44 posted on 08/06/2007 5:38:20 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

gee, is making good rebar welds important for bridge supports? /sarc


45 posted on 08/06/2007 6:33:06 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: JoanneSD; Borax Queen; processing please hold; potlatch
they are only doing the work Americans dont want...

Let's all repeat the mantra: They're ALL only doing what Americans would NEVER want to do! /s

46 posted on 08/06/2007 6:38:24 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Travis McGee

Hehe. It took me about ten seconds to figure that bumper sticker out.


47 posted on 08/06/2007 7:36:30 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: shotgun

The FAA had a couple of field techs who loved it when they got a thermite job at one of the sites.


48 posted on 08/06/2007 7:59:51 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: bigfootbob
The wife of a coworker at the time was a broker. At a party, I asked her if she sold any Whoops bonds. She denied ever having sold any.

In b-school, one of cases in a manufacturing class was about weld problems on thermal couples for GE aircraft engines.

Bottom line, provided by a classmate that worked at that particular plant when the Harvard type blew through to write the case, the union welders bid on work, and rework paid extra, ergo, it was to the welder's benefit to screw up the initial weld to get higher pay to fix it.

49 posted on 08/06/2007 8:22:53 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: SeafoodGumbo
JACKSON, Miss. (AP) - A five-month long investigation culminated Thursday with the arrest of 77 illegal aliens working on construction projects in Mississippi, Arkansas, Louisiana and Tennessee.

Many of those arrested worked for the Greenville-based Tarrasco Steel, a statement from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said, and were employed on construction of a new U.S. 82 bridge over the Mississippi River between Greenville and Lake Village, Ark.

Tarrasco, owned by Jose S. Gonzalez, has been under ICE investigation following allegations of criminal misconduct. Tarrasco Steel provides steel re-bar and employees for construction jobs.

50 posted on 08/06/2007 8:38:31 PM PDT by kcvl
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