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Conference to Revive the Caliphate [Islamic control on the world]
BNN ^ | Aug 6, 2007

Posted on 08/08/2007 1:26:13 AM PDT by PRePublic

Conference to Revive the Caliphate

Aug 6, 2007 What’s not news is that thousands of Muslims will attend a conference on how to bring back the Caliphate to impose Islamic dominance upon the world. ... http://www.bloggernews.net/19183

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: caliphate; calphate; dajjal; dhimmi; dhimmiwatch; infidels; islam; islamization; islamofascism; jihad; muslims; radicalislam; rop; worlddomination; wot

1 posted on 08/08/2007 1:26:17 AM PDT by PRePublic
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To: Cindy; nwctwx

PING ~~!


2 posted on 08/08/2007 1:32:15 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: All

ON THE ‘NET:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=hizbuttahrir
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=ht

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http://www.hizb.org.uk/hizb/press-centre/press-release/thousands-to-attend-hizb-ut-tahrir-britain-s-national-khilafah-caliphate-conference-in-london.html

“Thousands to attend Hizb ut-Tahrir Britain ‘s National Khilafah (Caliphate) Conference in London”
London, UK , July 30 2007


3 posted on 08/08/2007 1:43:05 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: PRePublic
Islam through the restoration of the Caliphate in the Muslim world, far from being a cause of world chaos, today stands as the one solution that can bring stability and justice to the world.”

So, there will be instability in the Muslim world until there is a world-wide caliphate?

I'd like to know what the definition of "Muslim world" is?

Certainly, Andalusia (Spain), parts of France, Sicily and Southeastern Europe are considered part of the Muslim world, by Muslims.

What about Scandinavia, and Germany, and France -- and their holding this meeting in England -- must be a reason for that.
4 posted on 08/08/2007 1:46:02 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: nicmarlo

Ping


5 posted on 08/08/2007 1:46:20 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (An American Patriot and an anti-Islam kind of fellow. (POI))
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To: Beckwith
It is an "in your face" to the west.

Once England goes Islam, the west will follow.

6 posted on 08/08/2007 1:48:29 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (An American Patriot and an anti-Islam kind of fellow. (POI))
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To: PRePublic

prophecy bookmark


7 posted on 08/08/2007 1:49:24 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: PRePublic

The chances of them successfully reestablishing a caliphate are about zero for several reasons - including the scores of caliph wannabees. They’ll never sort out who would be in charge.


8 posted on 08/08/2007 1:52:37 AM PDT by HAL9000 (http://LinksToNewsSources.GooglePages.com)
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for the ping STARWISE.


9 posted on 08/08/2007 1:53:24 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: PRePublic
Pax Islama being moved to the front burner?
10 posted on 08/08/2007 1:54:07 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: HAL9000

It’s ironic that the Islamists with most real political and military power is Shia Iran and it’s proxies who are opposed to the Sunni Caliphate.


11 posted on 08/08/2007 1:56:04 AM PDT by SolidWood (UN delenda est.)
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To: PRePublic

Why can’t they want just HALF the world? Especially if it’s covered by ocean.


12 posted on 08/08/2007 2:00:18 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo (Skip the Moon, go for Mars)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen
Apparently the US government (whom Americans stupidly THOUGHT
represented THEM) cannot wait.


13 posted on 08/08/2007 2:32:26 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Diogenesis
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ar/c/c9/Umay-futh.PNG

FIRST THEY SHOULD DEMONSTRATE they are ABLE to RECOVER THIS (I have a little doubt..)

14 posted on 08/08/2007 3:13:51 AM PDT by Traianus (YES I GOT HIM! BASHAR IS 666....)
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To: PRePublic
will the self appointed US emissary ~ nancy piglosi and her lib/dem dope syncophants be in attendance?????
15 posted on 08/08/2007 3:24:19 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: Beckwith

Precisely. When they can get the Caliphate reestablished in Britian, it’s over. Get fitted for your Burka and start growing your beard.

What would Madaline Murray O’Hair say to that? Oh, she’s dead.


16 posted on 08/08/2007 3:33:04 AM PDT by Shady
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To: PRePublic

Are there any spare MOABS we could drop over there? Clean up a lot of problems right quick.


17 posted on 08/08/2007 4:04:16 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

All thousands who attend should be arrested for conspiracy charges.


18 posted on 08/08/2007 4:21:10 AM PDT by omega4179 (Was the guy's name Mohammed?)
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To: SolidWood

Their proxies are Sunni Syria and hizb’alla.


19 posted on 08/08/2007 4:23:07 AM PDT by omega4179 (Was the guy's name Mohammed?)
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To: Beckwith
There is no doubt that the "Muslim world" envisioned by the caliphate is the entire world with no exceptions. Then there will be "peace" (submission).

The idea of "peace" in a completely Muslim world is laughable if it weren't so serious. The Sunni, Shia, Wahhabi, Salafists, all together in peace.

Riiiight. We can see how well that works in Iraq. They would continue to kill each other ad infinitum. It's the one and only Religion of Peace®.

20 posted on 08/08/2007 4:53:06 AM PDT by Sender (A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.)
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To: omega4179

I was thinking more a long the lines of “target rich environment” myself.


21 posted on 08/08/2007 6:01:09 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (An American Patriot and an anti-Islam kind of fellow. (POI))
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To: omega4179

Hizbullah is Shia. The ruling clan of Syria is Alawite, a Shia subsection.

The Caliphate was a Sunni establishment. If the radical Sunni Salafists and Wahhabists attempt to establish their Caliphate they have to topple all secular Sunni kingdoms and governments, fight the Shia bloc and also defy the West, Russia, China and India.

Barely a chance. However even their attempt will come with horrible blood letting... as we can see right now with their terror campaigns.


22 posted on 08/08/2007 6:10:04 AM PDT by SolidWood (UN delenda est.)
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To: PRePublic

A 1,000 year Islamic Reich. Hitler would be proud.


23 posted on 08/08/2007 6:29:00 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: The Great RJ
The image “http://www.pinellasfla.com/artlaislamicworls.jpg” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.

I THINK anyway that even IF THEY reach only the limits of 1650 it could be an HARD STUFF TO TACKLE.....
24 posted on 08/08/2007 7:20:56 AM PDT by Traianus (YES I GOT HIM! BASHAR IS 666....)
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To: Shady
Get fitted for your Burka and start growing your beard.

No me, Shady -- that's when I start dipping my hollowpoints in bacon fat.
25 posted on 08/08/2007 7:42:22 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: Sender

“Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world. And all of us against the infidel.”

The Haj, Leon Uris


26 posted on 08/08/2007 7:53:49 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: omega4179

Arrested? I’m leaning more toward JDAM targeting.


27 posted on 08/08/2007 7:57:47 AM PDT by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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To: PRePublic

So a group meets and says it will change the entire political system in the entire world, by force, and will force all to convert to its death cult, and subjugate non-believers.
And the media ignores it.
Easy to understand.
The media, and the left in general, supports the goals of this death cult.


28 posted on 08/08/2007 8:03:19 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen; Borax Queen; Czar; B4Ranch
Thank you for the ping, WB. Incredible...they're meeting in London to discuss how to impose their will....the gall!

From the article:

“Given the current climate of suspicion and fear we feel that now more than ever people need to try to understand these legitimate political aspirations for the Muslim world, rather than simply falling for the reductionist Manichean arguments that paints everyone who seeks Islamic change in the Muslim world as extremists or supporters of terrorism.”

Blogger's notation: The ‘legitimate political aspirations for the Muslim world’ is the very thing that’s the threat. The political aspirations of the Muslim world is to impose Shariah law upon the world.

Ping!

29 posted on 08/08/2007 10:30:04 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo; WorkerbeeCitizen; Borax Queen; B4Ranch
"Blogger's notation: The ‘legitimate political aspirations for the Muslim world’ is the very thing that’s the threat. The political aspirations of the Muslim world is to impose Shariah law upon the world."

In other words, encouraging Muslim political aspirations makes about as much sense as supporting a drive to bring the Nazi's back to power.

My idea of the proper level of Muslim political power is simple to grasp: none.

30 posted on 08/08/2007 11:53:49 AM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar; WorkerbeeCitizen; Borax Queen; B4Ranch
My idea of the proper level of Muslim political power is simple to grasp: none.

How strange. That idea likely resonates with most Americans. Why is that such a difficult concept to those who were supposedly elected to represent Americans rather than pander to muslims by spewing the false mantra, at every turn, that "islam is a religion of peace"???

31 posted on 08/08/2007 11:57:50 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
"Why is that such a difficult concept to those who were supposedly elected to represent Americans..."

Because we now have too few loyal Americans in Washington dedicated to serving the people and protecting and preserving the United States. They can no longer be trusted.

32 posted on 08/08/2007 12:32:47 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: omega4179

How about a Tomahawk with multiple warheads now that we know where all the b*st*rds are gonna be?


33 posted on 08/08/2007 12:37:10 PM PDT by halfright (How come you never see any Suicide Mullahs?)
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To: halfright

No need for a missile , we let them have their meeting in London , where they will all be identified and put under surveillance . They will lead MI5 to other rag heads and then the lot can be scooped up .


34 posted on 08/08/2007 5:50:38 PM PDT by THEDOC2 (An old Brit .)
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To: PRePublic
global caliphate bump
35 posted on 08/10/2007 1:06:33 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal

http://www.joelstrumpet.com/?p=657#more-657

« Cleric: Muslims gaining strength in United StatesPresident Ahmadinejad reaching out to Turkey »Hizb Ut Tahrir Britain
Conference Report By Sonia S. Azam

Saturday 4 August 2007
Khilafah – the Need and the Method
Organisers - Hizb ut Tahrir UK
Alexandra Palace, London

Speakers & Topics Attended:

The Khilafah & Women - Dr. Nazreen Nawaz
Islam & Global Economic Justice - Sajjad Khan
Good Governance- Burhan Hanif
Sectarianism & Non-Muslims under Khilafah - Jamal Harwood

(The following report is written from a paraphrased viewpoint of Hizb ut Tahrir and its intentions)

Background

Hizb ut Tahrir is a global political party that aims to raise and increase the awareness for the Khilafah (Islamic Institute and Rule), by exposing the ‘myth’ of the War on Terror and the rhetoric behind it. Another purpose of this event is to discuss the many challenges faced by the Muslim Ummah (community of Muslim believers worldwide) and to aim for a greater and lasting unity between believers and by presenting a ‘solution’ to the global problems faced by the world today. Thus, Islam through the restoration of the Khilafah in the Muslim world stands as the one solution that can bring stability and justice to the world.

Tony Blair during his term in office as Prime Minister in the aftermath of July 7 bombings warned that Britain was not only in a fight against terror but is also battling against the evil ideology behind it; declaring that we are involved in a war of ideas. Having announced a ban on the Hizb ut Tahrir peaceful political party, the British government of Tony Blair has stifled free speech, a principle that he was willing to promote by sending out British armies to Iraq and Afghanistan. Even so, Hizb ut Tahrir remain confident that just as the numbers of support for this political party grow around the globe in large numbers so will support amongst Muslims in Britain increase.

Hizb ut Tahrir’s Aim

—-‘In the Muslim world our political aim is for the re-establishment of the Islamic Caliphate. Our vision of the Islamic Caliphate is as an independent state having an elected and accountable ruler, an independent judiciary, political parties, the rule of law and equal rights for minority groups. Citizens of the Caliphate have every right to be involved in politics and accounting the ruler in which the role of the ruler (Khalif) is to be a servant of the masses governing them with justice.’—-

Hizb ut Tahrir’s Method of Work

Established in 1953 as a non-violent Islamic political party, Hizb ut Tahrir had the objective of establishing Islam in state and society in the Muslim world and set out to achieve this by the support and backup of interested Muslims. The party sate that they did not receive welcome from ‘unelected’ dictators in the Muslim world and as a result a number of the group’s members have been arrested and imprisoned (some even claimed to have been tortured and killed for their belief). However, Hizb ut Tahrir have promised to continue to fight back through intellectual advancement, debate and dialogue.

Hizb ut Tahrir’s Work in the UK

The party has a wide scope of varied individuals from different walks of life and from different ethnic backgrounds. Amongst their members in the UK are many of whom hold senior roles from IT, economics, medicine, teaching and engineering. Hizb ut Tahrir’s work in the UK is focusing on directing Muslims to make a positive contribution to society yet to primarily preserve their Islamic identity here. Despite the fact that Hizb ut Tahrir aims is to re-establish the Caliphate they insist that they are not looking to set up such a state here in the UK. By working directly with British Muslims about events in the Muslim world, much of the group’s activities include public protests, petitions, conferences, seminars, and roundtable discussions that have been attended by thousands.

Hizb ut Tahrir believes that the Muslim community with their Islamic values and culture can contribute hugely by solving much of Western society’s problems such as racism, alcohol, drug abuse, family breakdown, and sexual abuse. Thus, declaring that Islam is both the answer and the solution to the West’s decline in morality. Regarding the allegations made toward the political party, it has been said that they incite others to hatred. This notion is utterly rejected by Hizb ut Tahrir, as in the opposition to western foreign policy, the political party states that they do provide a detailed methodology to channel the anger and frustrations of Muslims through intellectual and political work. Therefore they totally refuse to accept the proposal to ban this group on the basis that this is apart of a violent struggle against the British and Western governments; i.e. statements made such as ‘Hizb ut Tahrir is a staging post or a conveyor belt for terrorism’ is rejected as unfounded.
Conference Speech

The Khilafah and Women.
Speaker – Dr. Nazreen Nawaz

A common Western perception regarding the current political and social climate in the Muslim world is that the suffering of women is a result of Islam and its regressive attitudes. Dr. Nazreen Nawaz argues that in fact it is the absence of Islam that creates this appalling situation for women. The return of true Islam through the Khilafah only, will establish women and their role in society as active and effective citizens in the Muslim world. Her conclusion is that the re-establishment on the Khilafah that is based on pure Islam is the only noble solution.

Islam and Global Economic Justice
Speaker - Sajjad Khan

Corruption is widespread in so called Islamic lands; this is because of the lack of Islam not because of the presence of Islam. There are over 800 million Muslims suffering in the Islamic world who are in need of the return of the Khilafah, and we have to respond and stand up against injustice and western interference. We must bring back Islam, Shariah and Khilafah. There needs to be a change in ways of economics, justice and education. Hizb ut Tahrir proposes to put forward an Islamic Economy in the Khilafah in the following:

1. The Islamic Economy through the Khilafah will be subservient to the people within the state
2. The implementation of the re-distribution of wealth and ‘lands’
3. Islamic values will be placed high through spiritual, sacrificial and family based values and principles.
4. Environmental Issues will be researched, explored and put into practice

It is asked that who needs the Khilafah if we have Dubai? In the Islamic Institute there will be no room for greed or personal material gratification.
There will be no such thing as the booming private sector; as the public sector will be the beneficiary. We will implement Wealth Taxes and re-circulate this within the state for the people. The re-distribution of lands will be applied in circumstances where Muslim lands have not been used or corrected maintained within 3 years, after which the land will be ‘forcefully taken’ and given to those in desperate need of it. The re-distribution of Assets will transferred from the private sector to the public sector for the benefit of public welfare and protection; assets from Oil should go back to the public sector as it’s the wealth of the land therefore the people will benefit.

‘Interest’ of any kind will be totally abolished within the Islamic Institutional State. The Khilafah will present an economy that is open, honest, transparent and accountable to the people and other political party’s within the state.

We aspire to great achievements, and we will start by Economics training internationally for all Muslims. Building and working on intellectual knowledge, science and developing patents in the field of scientific and mechanical inventions. Muslims should be encouraged to come forward confidently and receive assistance in this area in particular. The institute should act as a magnet to draw all Muslims to contribute to the Islamic society and find resources capable of developing skills and knowledge to better and strengthen the Khilafah. Our currency will not be exchanged or have any dealings with the American Dollar. With the leadership of the Caliph, the Khilafah will work with the Islamic currency only. We aim to see Economic Prosperity thrive within the Khilafah as one Nation; we have the resources and capability to do this.

For those members of the Khilafah who live in western countries will not become segregated from the society there but will be encouraged to abide by the rule of law there, all we do is to work for the building and furthering of the Khilafah worldwide for the benefit of the Ummah.

Good Governance
Speaker – Burhan Hanif

It is well known that brutal and totalitarian regimes exist within the Muslim world, some because of corrupt governing and some due to unelected leaders appointed the West and US. With the re-establishment of the Khilafah, the institute will prove to be accountable to other political party’s within in, and to the people who will have elected their chosen representatives. Good governance is desperately needed in Muslim lands and only the Khilafah can provide this. The Khilafah is not a Theocracy, is not a Dictatorship nor is it a Monarchy. Neither will the Islamic institute run as a totalitarian police state but will have similarities to that of a democracy in terms of elections made by the people to elect their representatives and ultimately the Caliph himself. There will not be any periodic elections, which change every so often and where thus the previously elected is left unaccountable, but will provide continuity to governance for the people. Through a Centralized Rule, the Khilafah will ultimately appoint leaders, rulers and governors.

Non-Muslim citizens of the Khilafah will not be obliged to live by its Islamic standards, but will be required to abide by its laws i.e. Sharia Law. If there are serious violations of any law, the Khilafah Courts through good jurisdiction will deal with such incidents justly and fairly.

Sectarianism and Non Muslims under Khilafah
Speaker – Jamal Harwood

The question posed here is what of the non-Muslims who live under Khilafah Rule? Will they be treated as second class citizens? The Khilafah has proved and shown through history that during the Prophets time, Jews and Christians were looked after extremely well. This is something that the Khilafah will continue to implement and preserve. For example; Non-Muslim citizens will be exempt from paying the Zakat (giving of ones income toward charity as a religious duty) neither will they be required to serve in the Khilafah military service. What will be expected from the non-Muslim citizens is that they observe to pay the Jizya Tax when demanded. (This is a compulsory tax system that the Prophet of Islam instituted toward non-Muslim citizens within the community who wished to continue to remain in the land under Islamic Rule and remain to observe their own religion)

How to unify Muslims? The issue with the current sectarianism that is occurring in Iraq is something that has not occurred before with Islamic Rule. This continual divide and conflict has been caused by the occupation and western interference within Iraq. There will be no room sectarianism, for disharmony or conflict between Muslims within the Khilafah. The Islamic State will be for ALL Muslims and there will be provided political platforms to unify and bring together in peace any issues that occur.

OBSERVATIONS

During the arrival of attending this conference it was noticed how well prepared the organizers were in terms of providing accommodation and presentation. Most astounding was the huge attendance levels for the conference, of which many seemed, moderate, friendly and relaxed. Considering that Hizb ut Tahrir is known to some to be an extremist Islamic political party, the support and interest that they received was incredibly unexpected. The crowds were in the thousands and it was observed that majority of the attendance was mostly male however a considerably high number of young women some who looked modern (many with children) was something that proved surprising. Whilst in the conference and during speeches, the listeners in the arena would resound chants of Allah Hu Akbar (God is great) noticeably when a particular speaker would state something in opposition to the policy and dealings of the US and the West in Muslim lands. The messages that were presented seemed at times very determined and robust with much political jargon, yet with a little humor to warm up the audience. The mention of Israel was void, yet the occasional use of the word Palestinians was notable as this seems to be the underlying cause for their motivation.

However, it must not be taken lightly, this Islamic Political Party are extremely serious and focused on the –re-establishment of the Khilafah, by whatever means they use the popularity of their policy is likely to increase even more amongst British Muslims who are being encouraged to participate in increasing the pressure on the UK government in issues that concern them such as foreign policy, I.E. primarily Palestine, Iraq and Afghanistan; and may prove to be a difficult party to deal with.

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36 posted on 08/10/2007 6:58:22 AM PDT by Traianus (YES I GOT HIM! BASHAR IS 666....)
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To: Traianus

Thanks for the info!


37 posted on 08/10/2007 7:36:02 PM PDT by Dajjal
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