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The asterisk just doesn't apply (THE 2ND MOST CONTROVERSIAL HOME RUN IN BASEBALL HISTORY)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | August 8, 2007 | CHRIS DE LUCA

Posted on 08/08/2007 4:58:54 AM PDT by Chi-townChief

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To: Northern Yankee
This writer ought to talk to Hank Aaron, who refused to associate with Bonds.

Uh...been watching any TV the last 12 hours?

21 posted on 08/08/2007 5:19:00 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Just another Joe

That’s the darn truth. He is a phenomenal hitter.


22 posted on 08/08/2007 5:19:29 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Chi-townChief

Bonds is a loser and is still a loser.

He didn’t break any record. It is that simple, regardless of the numbers.


23 posted on 08/08/2007 5:19:50 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Dick Cheney should have gone hunting with Hillary." -- Yakov Smirnoff)
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To: Chi-townChief
Bonds is a jerk. Here’s hoping that Ken Griffey Junior can stay healthy enough to pass Bonds’ HR total.
24 posted on 08/08/2007 5:20:57 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: Northern Yankee
Aaron has integrity. Bonds can't even spell it.

I read something a few days ago that tried to compare the booing that Bonds gets in every city except SF with the racist hate mail and booing that Aaron got back in his day.

25 posted on 08/08/2007 5:21:31 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

“Critics can hate Bonds, they can swear that he became a home-run machine through performance-enhancing drugs, but they can’t erase 756 home runs.”

I’m a critic. Performance-enhancing drugs, you say?

Have you ever seen a man go through a growth spurt in his thirties??

Baseball is getting another self-delivered black eye.


26 posted on 08/08/2007 5:21:56 AM PDT by Hornet19 (It's Time to Put Up or Shut Up...Where Do You Stand?)
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To: Northern Yankee

Interestingly, it appears as if Ol’ Hank has come over to Barry’s side. Maybe Michael Jordan did it to him.


27 posted on 08/08/2007 5:23:06 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief
Baseball's most cherished record now belongs to Barry Bonds, and no matter what is said, written or alleged, there is no taking it away.

Not so fast, Chris. . .

In the story of Barry Bonds; perception is reality.

The score is real. The record is broken; a written history is altered.

But Barry Bonds legacy rises out of doubt, scepticism and scandal. And that will give rise to a competing reality; and there is no taking that away, either.

Barry is the source of both; and he will have to live it.

28 posted on 08/08/2007 5:23:44 AM PDT by cricket
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To: steelyourfaith

I think it will probably be Alex Rodriguez who ultimately winds up with the record.


29 posted on 08/08/2007 5:23:59 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
I confess I haven't. Did Hank make amends?

Last I heard from him he didn't want to be anywhere near Bonds when the record was beaten. (Interview from SI a few weeks back.)

30 posted on 08/08/2007 5:24:11 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: Chi-townChief
Baseball's most cherished record..

Well, I disagree right from the start of the article. I'd much rather see a run at a .400 season or consecutive games with a hit record. And that is just on batting side of the game.

31 posted on 08/08/2007 5:26:11 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Chi-townChief

????? What pray tell is the:

1ST MOST CONTROVERSIAL HOME RUN IN BASEBALL HISTORY??????


32 posted on 08/08/2007 5:26:21 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: wagglebee
I read something a few days ago that tried to compare the booing that Bonds gets in every city except SF with the racist hate mail and booing that Aaron got back in his day.

Don't you love it when writers can just blow past the obvious to attempt the ridiculous?

33 posted on 08/08/2007 5:27:01 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: Chi-townChief

Go Alex Rodriquez!


34 posted on 08/08/2007 5:27:43 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Chi-townChief

And to think Joe Jackson is still not in Cooperstown.


35 posted on 08/08/2007 5:28:10 AM PDT by sono (Where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence - M Gandhi)
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To: Northern Yankee
"What was stunning, as fireworks exploded by the bay and police hustled an unruly fan off the field, was the sight of Aaron instantly popping up on the video board in AT&T Park. After Bonds hit the homer at 8:51 p.m. Pacific time, after he rounded the bases without particular emotion, after he crossed home plate and pointed to the sky at his late father, after he hugged son Nikolai and godfather/legend Willie Mays, he peered out to center field to see Aaron greeting him with a taped message. Until now, he has refused to discuss Bonds and wanted no part of being on site for the home run that eclipsed him. But in the bitter end, there was Hammerin' Hank, still outclassing his tainted successor.

"I would like to offer my congratulations to Barry Bonds on becoming baseball's career home run leader," Aaron said. "It is a great accomplishment that requires skill, longevity and determination ... I move over now and offer my best wishes to Barry and his family."


A record that shouldn’t be
36 posted on 08/08/2007 5:28:12 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
I love how the article just blows past the issue:

I love how critics just blow past the issue:

The fact is much of Bonds' work from 1999 to 2004 -- during a time many of us believe he was juiced -- can't be touched by an asterisk. Baseball had no policy against steroids during this time.You can't break a rule that wasn't there.

I have no feelings about Bonds whatsoever. I just think that he's being tarnished because he's not a media suck-up.

37 posted on 08/08/2007 5:28:19 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: Chi-townChief

What is the 1st most controversial homer in history?


38 posted on 08/08/2007 5:28:38 AM PDT by shekkian
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To: TheBattman

Pete Rose should be in the HOF... say, one day after his funeral. I’m serious, I think that a “lifetime ban” should mean exactly that.

Let Pete know that after he dies he is in, but because of his actions and (more importantly) his attitude, he will never live to see it.

As for Bonds...

I don’t care for him and I think it is very probable that he was using substances that are banned today from baseball. But if he was using them before they were banned, I see no reason to star his record.

Some call it “cheating”, but playing by the rules, even when the rules change later, is not cheating. It may be unethical, but it’s not cheating.


39 posted on 08/08/2007 5:28:47 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Chi-townChief

Baseball can say Barry Bonds deserves the record, but they can’t make me care.

Frankly, I was surprised to find out that Barry Bonds held the single-season home run record. In all this flurry over 756, I saw that in a story. I realized that I had discounted that record in my mind, because I knew it tainted. I simply did not care that Barry Bonds had broken that record.

I will not care that he has broken this one, either. I fully expect that five years from now I will have no idea who is the current record holder for most home runs in a career. I will be able to picture Hank Aaron’s record blast in my mind for the rest of my life, but I have not even bothered to turn on the TV to see Barry Bond’s 756th home run.

I just don’t care, anymore.


40 posted on 08/08/2007 5:29:15 AM PDT by gridlock (You cannot coexist with somebody who wants you dead.)
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