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Drawings of 5th generation Russian Fighter Handed Over to Manufacturer
Kommersant,Russia ^ | Aug. 08, 2007

Posted on 08/08/2007 7:19:08 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Drawings of G5 Fighter Handed Over to Manufacturer

Elaboration of working construction documentation (WCD) for the G5 fighter jet of Russia has been completed, RIA Novosti reported with reference to Air Forces Commander-in-Chief Col.-Gen. Alexander Zelin. The drawings have been passed to a manufacturer that will make a development prototype.

Most likely, the G5 aircraft developed by Sukhoi Design Bureau will be produced in series at facilities in Komsomolsk-on-Amur. A maker of engines will be determined via a tender.

Sukhoi Design Bureau has been developing a front aviation G5 fighter jet of PAK FA Project since late 1990s. The promising aircraft is also known under the names of I-21, T-50, Izdelije 701. According to the chiefs of Russia’s Air Forces, this jet will be tested in summer of 2009 and launched into mass production early in the next decade.

www.kommersant.com


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; f22; russia; sukhoi
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The possible view of G5 fighter jet of Russia

1 posted on 08/08/2007 7:19:13 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Wow.....looks just like another target to me.


2 posted on 08/08/2007 7:20:46 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Every woman, who can, should learn to shoot, and carry a gun.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

ROTFLOL


3 posted on 08/08/2007 7:24:43 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Knowing the Russians’ odd proclivity for building aircraft that look remarkably like ours, I would expect this to be something like the F22 or the F35.


4 posted on 08/08/2007 7:25:30 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Is this kind of like the Airbus A350 XWB Pie-In-The-Sky?

The pretty picture stage is a looooooong way from production. Though it does look like the Russkies are moving in the right direction. Note the Russian standard divertable upper air intakes for rough field work.


5 posted on 08/08/2007 7:25:42 AM PDT by gridlock (You cannot coexist with somebody who wants you dead.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
So is that how they work it? Their military draws up a plane and then wants it built as such, not that they ask for given specs and then manufacturers have to design something to meet the requirements?
6 posted on 08/08/2007 7:29:27 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Pistolshot

A non stealthy one at that...


7 posted on 08/08/2007 7:31:47 AM PDT by Weeedley (Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.)
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To: gridlock

No, its more like the F-18 on steriods w/ the sweep of the “wing”
starting much higher up the fuselage.

Without stealth no less.

Notice the twin tails angled markedly outward.

I can’t wait for the next edition of the Arms Race! We’ll win that
one too! Its so exciting!!!

MV


8 posted on 08/08/2007 7:31:55 AM PDT by madvlad ((Born in the south, raised around the globe and STILL republican))
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To: IronJack

I’m a bit surprised that it’s not an “F-22ski” myself.


9 posted on 08/08/2007 7:35:42 AM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The Raptorski.


10 posted on 08/08/2007 7:36:32 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: madvlad

The twin tails did seem a wee bit... conspicuous.


11 posted on 08/08/2007 7:40:47 AM PDT by gridlock (You cannot coexist with somebody who wants you dead.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I think for marketing it HAS to look similar to the US planes.

It is a “same as” sales pitch.


12 posted on 08/08/2007 7:49:58 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Whoop-dee-doo. Its a gussied-up Saab Draken.


13 posted on 08/08/2007 7:51:46 AM PDT by Spirochete
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Twin stabilizers and inlet/engine configuration of an F-15 with a Draken fuselage.


14 posted on 08/08/2007 7:56:33 AM PDT by Spirochete
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Hey! How did they get my 2nd-grade son’s drawings?


15 posted on 08/08/2007 7:58:13 AM PDT by TexGuy
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To: longtermmemmory

Umm,are you saying that the laws of aerodynamics have nothing to do with aircraft(or anything) looking similar??????


16 posted on 08/08/2007 8:00:43 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

We’ll see how this turns out. Many times when Russia goes for a high-tech solution they have a lot of problems. Their history shows they are much better at producing more basic systems that are tough with a few unique features.

If they are trying to build a counter for the Raptor it will take them a LOT more than a couple of years to reach production. Maybe they aren’t even trying and this is really going to be a 4 1/2 generation aircraft like the Typhoon.

Kind of sad if your nation celebrates the “Pretty Picture” stage of development.


17 posted on 08/08/2007 8:03:56 AM PDT by CCGuy (USAF (Ret.))
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Kind of looks like a delta version of the MiG-29.


18 posted on 08/08/2007 8:08:11 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (It's up to us to keep it all from unraveling)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

It looks like an interesting evolution of the MiG-29. Is it similar in size?


19 posted on 08/08/2007 8:10:32 AM PDT by GBA (God Bless America!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

What, are you smoking Thai weed again?

Weren’t you at the lecture what said that the laws of aerodynamics have
been repealed!!?? And no! Don’t ask me for my notes or the homework
assignment!

Lift is irrelevant now!!!! Its all in the thrust component!

All you need is thrust!

MV


20 posted on 08/08/2007 8:13:41 AM PDT by madvlad ((Born in the south, raised around the globe and STILL republican))
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To: CougarGA7

Kinda looks like ANYTHING the US has produced w/ twin tails
since 1972!

MV


21 posted on 08/08/2007 8:15:34 AM PDT by madvlad ((Born in the south, raised around the globe and STILL republican))
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Sorry I do not know how to enter link. Unbelievable footage.

http://www.sonnyradio.com/F15.wmv

22 posted on 08/08/2007 8:22:03 AM PDT by fuzzthatwuz
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Not to the point where two independently-designed aircraft will look identical to each other (and this one doesn't look identical to any U.S. aircraft that I know of).

As is the case in many things, there is more than one path to the same desired result. The odds of two aircraft being independently designed from the same set of performance requirements looking identical to each other are slim to none. Those Russian aircraft that did strongly resemble U.S. hardware were copies, plain and simple.
23 posted on 08/08/2007 8:29:53 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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To: IronJack

Do in you include helicopters in your term ‘aircraft’?


24 posted on 08/08/2007 8:41:48 AM PDT by duckln
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To: GBA

There is very little accurate information about this project barring a few drawings & some photoshopped F-22 pics!!It’s said to be bigger than the Mig-29,but smaller than the SU-27 in size.


25 posted on 08/08/2007 8:45:08 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
It looks very Russian to me. There may be some aspects that are similar to various other aircraft, but it's Russian, and with that tail, MiG. The Drakken might have been the first to use the double delta, but LOTS of others have used it since. It's either that or a delta with a canard, both of which the Swiss have used, as have the Russians. We seem to prefer the double delta, such as with the F-16, F-18 and the F-22.

People are far too quick to dismiss the Russians. We improve, then they improve. The F-22 will keep everyone playing catch up for a while, but it's expensive and there aren't that many flying. In the mean time, the newest Sukhois are giving F-16, F-18 and even F-15 pilots, ours and our allies, something to think about as they show up in ever greater numbers.

26 posted on 08/08/2007 9:00:25 AM PDT by GBA (God Bless America!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

not at all.


27 posted on 08/08/2007 9:02:59 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Pretty!

Looks stealthy, too.


28 posted on 08/08/2007 9:05:01 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: LIConFem
Those Russian aircraft that did strongly resemble U.S. hardware were copies, plain and simple.

Nobody's denying thta.

Bit was a long time ago

29 posted on 08/08/2007 9:22:23 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (The Simpons already did it!)
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To: duckln
Do in you include helicopters in your term ‘aircraft’?

Not so much, but still true in many cases.

30 posted on 08/08/2007 9:24:52 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Oztrich Boy
"Nobody's denying thta.

Coulda fooled me. Every time a thread such as this is posted, we get at least one poster claiming that striking similarities between two aircraft are due solely to "the laws of aerodynamics".

As for the Russkie B-29 clone, one need not go back that far to find examples of Russian reverse-engineering:



Left: US Shuttle. Right: Russian Buran.

I've heard folks make that same silly "the laws of aerodynamics..." argument regarding the Russian shuttle. Look at the pic above and tell me that the Russian ship isn't a copy.
31 posted on 08/08/2007 9:55:12 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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To: LIConFem

32 posted on 08/08/2007 10:32:59 AM PDT by klpt
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