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Billy Graham: Hillary's Solace (Bill should "become an evangelist, because he had all the gifts")
Time/CNN ^ | 8-8-07 | Mancy Gibbs & Michael Duffy

Posted on 08/08/2007 8:15:12 AM PDT by Bladerunnuh

Both Bill and Hillary Clinton were sitting with him on stage in Flushing Meadows when Graham greeted them as his "wonderful friends of many years." "I told him," Graham said of President Clinton, "when he left the presidency, he should become an evangelist, because he had all the gifts." Graham paused, and added with a smile, "And he could [let] his wife run the country."

That remark caused such a furor in some quarters that Graham's evangelist son Franklin had to explain that it was meant as a joke.

But Graham had praised and defended both Clintons before. And in a new interview, Hillary

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"I told him," Graham said of President Clinton, "when he left the presidency, he should become an evangelist, because he had all the gifts."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

1 posted on 08/08/2007 8:15:14 AM PDT by Bladerunnuh
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To: Bladerunnuh

Except Bill worships something other than God and that is power.


2 posted on 08/08/2007 8:17:46 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: yldstrk

Really. Who are they praying to? Molech??!


3 posted on 08/08/2007 8:18:43 AM PDT by Bladerunnuh
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To: Bladerunnuh

Yeah, Bill, start with Jimmy Swaggart and work backwards.


4 posted on 08/08/2007 8:18:57 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (When Bubba lies, the finger flies!)
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To: Bladerunnuh

God’s gifts are often abused.


5 posted on 08/08/2007 8:19:17 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: Bladerunnuh

Shades of “Elmer Gantry”.


6 posted on 08/08/2007 8:19:18 AM PDT by ladtx ("You know you are getting old when everything either dries up or leaks." Will Rogers)
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To: Bladerunnuh

Rev. Graham must have had the Devil in him at that moment. It happens to the best of us.


7 posted on 08/08/2007 8:19:45 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time .)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Maybe Billy meant- “tele-evangelist”


8 posted on 08/08/2007 8:19:53 AM PDT by Bladerunnuh
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To: Bladerunnuh
I love and respect Billy Graham immensely, but for the life of me I cannot understand his chumminess with two examples of the worst that humanity has to offer.
9 posted on 08/08/2007 8:20:13 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Stop that!)
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To: Bladerunnuh

I’m not surprised that a preacher would say nice things.


10 posted on 08/08/2007 8:20:53 AM PDT by linn37 (Phlebotomists need love too.)
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To: ladtx

11 posted on 08/08/2007 8:21:52 AM PDT by ladtx ("You know you are getting old when everything either dries up or leaks." Will Rogers)
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To: reagan_fanatic
Hillary is going to have to dye her hair--


12 posted on 08/08/2007 8:23:05 AM PDT by Bladerunnuh
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To: Bladerunnuh

We all know how Bill “ministers” to young women....


13 posted on 08/08/2007 8:23:24 AM PDT by NeoCaveman ("I mean, he's gone from Jane Fonda to Dr. Strangelove in one week." - Romney on B. Hussein Obama)
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To: yldstrk

And how is this a handicap to being an evangelist?


14 posted on 08/08/2007 8:24:18 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (The Simpons already did it!)
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To: Bladerunnuh

Well Bill is qualified for laying on of hands..


15 posted on 08/08/2007 8:24:39 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: Bladerunnuh

Is that picture from a Sat. Night Live skit?


16 posted on 08/08/2007 8:25:54 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: vietvet67

He’s a healer as well. He’ll tell you to put some ice on that.


17 posted on 08/08/2007 8:26:06 AM PDT by Mrs_Stokke (Turn-of-the-century FReeper.)
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To: Mrs_Stokke

lol


18 posted on 08/08/2007 8:26:38 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: TigersEye

lmaoooooooo Can you imagine that?


19 posted on 08/08/2007 8:28:28 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: reagan_fanatic
I love and respect Billy Graham immensely, but for the life of me I cannot understand his chumminess with two examples of the worst that humanity has to offer

I have to assume it's because Billy Graham loves people. Didn't Will Rogers say "I never met a man I didn't like"?

The article also said this:

...The book makes clear that Clinton is not the first candidate to have a relationship with Graham amid the rough and tumble of a presidential campaign. Dwight Eisenhower asked Graham to assist with speeches in the 1952 race (Graham declined). Lyndon Johnson invited him to spend the weekend at the White House before the 1964 election because aides were hearing warnings that he might come out for Goldwater. Nixon recruited him to carry a secret message to Johnson during the 1968 campaign; Gerald Ford sought his advice in 1976 when he faced a born-again Southern Baptist challenger in Jimmy Carter. On the weekend before the 2000 election, amidst roiling charges about a buried drunk driving citation, Graham appeared at George W. Bush's side after a private breakfast together — in the soon to be contested state of Florida — and said, "I believe in the integrity of this man. I've known him as a boy. I've known him as a young man. And we're very proud of him."
20 posted on 08/08/2007 8:30:50 AM PDT by Proverbs 3-5
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To: Mrs_Stokke

If Rev. Bill used my bathroom-- I'd have to get a new bathroom...

21 posted on 08/08/2007 8:36:00 AM PDT by Bladerunnuh
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To: Proverbs 3-5
On the weekend before the 2000 election, amidst roiling charges about a buried drunk driving citation,

It was an October suprise and it wasn't a "buried" citation, not like the hidden Clinton documents. That October surprise certainly cost GWBush some votes. If that amounted to as little as 0.51% of the voters then it cost him the popular vote that Al Gore Junior loves to brag about.

22 posted on 08/08/2007 8:36:06 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: Red_Devil 232
It might as well be, if it's not.

What IS that, a hairdo, or an animal nest?

Cordially,

23 posted on 08/08/2007 8:36:53 AM PDT by Diamond
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To: Proverbs 3-5

Of course he would have to love the sinner but hate the sin. I think however it is very dangerous to join at the hip with such powerful people that can do so much harm to the moral climate of this country. Maybe being in the limelight colors one’s vision and causes one not to want to fall out of favor with the powerful.


24 posted on 08/08/2007 8:39:04 AM PDT by mimaw
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To: netmilsmom

I think that sometimes very saintly people are so good that they can be deceived by the extremely polished and wicked among us. When you are good, you do not think ill of anyone. Reverend Graham has been deceived by these professional liars as many another good person has been. It doesn’t mean that the Devil was in him, just that he is old, gentle, and perhaps easier to fool now.


25 posted on 08/08/2007 8:40:07 AM PDT by Fairview ( Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.)
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To: Bladerunnuh

Clinton does have “gifts”. But he chose to use them for himself.


26 posted on 08/08/2007 8:41:39 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead)
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To: Bladerunnuh

Well, there’s a certain truth in it.

Bill clinton was gifted with extraordinary abilities as a speaker, communicator, and persuader. All he lacks, apparently, to be a gifted evangelist is the Spirit.

Flannery O’Connor would have said that he would be absolutely perfect preaching from the pulpit of the Church of Christ Without Christ.


27 posted on 08/08/2007 8:44:14 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: reagan_fanatic
Jesus didn’t hang out with just the religious. He was a witness to the sinners as well.
28 posted on 08/08/2007 8:45:31 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (Courage is not the lack of fear it is acting in spite of it<><)
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To: Bladerunnuh

"Dear Lord, please help Hillary find those tweezers for her eyebrows. Amen".

29 posted on 08/08/2007 8:45:55 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: Bladerunnuh

Please, please, please, don’t make me throw up. Bill an evangelist? I want to scream.


30 posted on 08/08/2007 8:46:12 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger ("Being normal is not neccessarily a virtue. It rather denotes a lack of courage.")
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To: Cicero

“All he lacks, apparently, to be a gifted evangelist is the Spirit.”

Does being an evangelist require character? If so, then he also lacks that.


31 posted on 08/08/2007 8:46:23 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: Fairview

I think you may be right.
My sister is a habitual liar. When she hears something she assumes it is a lie.
I don’t lie. I assume that the things I hear are the truth. Those of us who try to live a good life have a hard time imagining that someone is not good at heart.


32 posted on 08/08/2007 8:46:33 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time .)
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To: Cicero
You know, Billy didn't specify which "god" Bill would be evangelizing for. Bill could get people "right with Osiris", for example....


33 posted on 08/08/2007 8:48:31 AM PDT by Bladerunnuh
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To: Bladerunnuh

The truth about these hucksters is difficult to face until they’re indicted!


34 posted on 08/08/2007 8:50:25 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: DJ MacWoW
What gifts are we talking about? The one Bill gave to Monica? Being a BS artist is not the kind of gifts the Bible had in mind when it says some have the gift of evangelism. Ephesians 4:11
35 posted on 08/08/2007 8:51:08 AM PDT by street_lawyer (Conservative Defender of the Faith)
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To: reagan_fanatic
I love and respect Billy Graham immensely, but for the life of me I cannot understand his chumminess with two examples of the worst that humanity has to offer.

Well it is all well and good I suppose to love and respect, but this preacher does NOT know his Bible. There is nothing about OLD Bill Clinton that makes him a representative of giving Bible instructions. And further the anointing of Hillry Clinton as the first woman after already serving 8 years as co-president without ever taking responsibility for one act she made happen, demonstrates this preacher, well I let whom ever fill in the blank, but the preacher did not get the instruction from the Bible or from the Heavenly Father.

36 posted on 08/08/2007 8:51:57 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Mrs_Stokke

That was a good one.


37 posted on 08/08/2007 8:52:47 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Bladerunnuh
Hillry Clinton is counting upon the Rev to get her elected and there is a movement afoot, by his followers, apparently unbeknownst to the majority to dress her up is a ‘godly’ dress. Old Hillry spewed some of her ‘ungodliness’ when she accused the Republicans before they lost control of the House, that they if they could would make Jesus illegal.

His followers LOVED old bjclinton and they have been given marching orders to elect his in-name-only wife.

38 posted on 08/08/2007 8:58:39 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Rightly Biased
Jesus didn’t hang out with just the religious. He was a witness to the sinners as well.

Exactly my dilemma. I understand the only way to truly represent Christianity is to witness to the sinner - I just find it hard to believe that either Bill or Hillary will ever change who they really are at their core and become actual Christians.

Stranger things have happened, I guess.
39 posted on 08/08/2007 8:58:47 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Stop that!)
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To: Right Brother

Billy: "Dear Lord..."

Hellery: "I'll just pretend I believe in God..."

Bubba: "I wrote down Monica's phone number somewh...oh, there it is."

40 posted on 08/08/2007 8:58:53 AM PDT by quark
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To: Revolting cat!
The truth about these hucksters is difficult to face until they’re indicted!

Is that a quote from Caiaphas? "These" hucksters?

41 posted on 08/08/2007 8:58:56 AM PDT by unspun (We're still in the end times.)
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To: pandoraou812

Yeah, actually I can imagine that. My first thought when Slick Willy popped onto the scene was now there’s the ultimate used car salesman.


42 posted on 08/08/2007 8:59:51 AM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: Bladerunnuh

I question Billy Graham’s spirit of discernment. If he cannot discern evil, liars, greed, lust, cheats, and darkness in these two creatures belched forth from the bowels of hell, then tell me how he is led by God. The hair on the back of his neck should stand up when he’s next to them. Something is wrong here. Either Graham has been fooled by the clintons, or we have been fooled by Graham. I stand by my opinion.


43 posted on 08/08/2007 9:01:00 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness ( Bumper sticker idea: Hillary/Obama Nation '08. Let the desolation begin)
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To: TigersEye

Very true...I never thought about it but you are right...


44 posted on 08/08/2007 9:10:37 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: street_lawyer

He is a charismatic speaker. He can also be charming. He chose to use that to serve “self” and not God. The proof is that he did NOTHING for our country but millions still worship the Clintons. Everyone has gifts and abilities. God lets us chose who we use them for and who we serve, Him or self. Clinton chose self.


45 posted on 08/08/2007 9:13:12 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead)
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To: Bladerunnuh

Now that I think about it, bill may have been calling on his “god” the day he said, “It depends on what the meaning of Isis”.


46 posted on 08/08/2007 9:13:17 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness ( Bumper sticker idea: Hillary/Obama Nation '08. Let the desolation begin)
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To: Bladerunnuh

Yeah, Bill could help unwed mothers get their start.


47 posted on 08/08/2007 9:14:48 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Red_Devil 232

Oh nooo. That’s Paul & Jan Crouch of TBN & “Praise the Lord”. But don’t feel bad. I once thought Bob Tilton was a comedian doing a parody of TV evangelists the first time I saw him. I yelled for everybody to run to the TV because “this guy’s good!” LOL.


48 posted on 08/08/2007 9:20:43 AM PDT by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what I’ve done here today doesn’t force you to have a negative opinion of me….)
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To: Bladerunnuh

Take away the hair style and the fancy suits and Bill is just the village BS artist glad-handing people for drinks at the local tavern.


49 posted on 08/08/2007 9:24:11 AM PDT by CaptRon (Pedicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

Amen Brother,I have thought this for a long time.Isn’t there a comment by Graham from the Lewinski debacle about Bill Clinton having “manly urges”(?).


50 posted on 08/08/2007 9:25:46 AM PDT by redstateconfidential (Nail On The Head)
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