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Rep. Ron Paul Isn’t Going Away
New York Observer ^ | August 7, 2007 | Steve Kornacki

Posted on 08/08/2007 2:35:26 PM PDT by CenTexConfederate

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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

He sounds like he might do a duet with Fonda now.


21 posted on 08/08/2007 3:17:06 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Ron Paul actually did serve in the military.

Did you?

Exactly the same argument they made for John Kerry on the 2004 elections.

22 posted on 08/08/2007 3:17:23 PM PDT by capt. norm (Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

Big Brother is watching you.

23 posted on 08/08/2007 3:23:33 PM PDT by mgstarr
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“So how come he’s a loon but a pro-abortionist such as Giuliani is not?”

The mayor of NYC will fight and kill our enemies.
Ru Paul will sigh letters of the marque and send pirates after them.

The entire “just war” argument is a mask to hide his cowardice behind.

The simple fact is: RP is a Fruit Loop libertarian who has more in common with Code Pink than Reagan.

If he was a real conservative, RP would be polling above 1%.


24 posted on 08/08/2007 3:29:39 PM PDT by Cyclops08
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To: Cyclops08
If he was a real conservative, RP would be polling above 1%.

You mean like Hunter?

25 posted on 08/08/2007 3:31:53 PM PDT by mgstarr
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To: elizabetty

So did Benedict Arnold


26 posted on 08/08/2007 3:35:28 PM PDT by italianquaker (RON PAUL: "IT will be a little bit better now with the democrats now in charge of oversight ")
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To: Hurricane Bruiser

######It is because he doesn’t want to ram social conservative policies down everyone’s throats like many of the Republicans do.######

Which policies are you talking about?


27 posted on 08/08/2007 3:35:52 PM PDT by puroresu
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

George McGovern was a WWII bomber pilot. Are we supposed to be impressed by paleoPaulie as a flight surgeon??? Both of those weasels wound up antiwar antiAmerican jerks.


28 posted on 08/08/2007 4:25:26 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Hurricane Bruiser

‘Cause he wants to legalize the weed?


29 posted on 08/08/2007 4:27:43 PM PDT by Baladas
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To: Martins kid

I can’t figure out why posters think a Pork list is so UnAmerican. He was elected to help his district what is wrong with that.


30 posted on 08/08/2007 4:30:46 PM PDT by Orange1998 (4 Real)
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To: CenTexConfederate

Harry Brown, the Libertarian candidate, generated much excitement back in 1996.

What did he get - maybe 1% of the vote.

The trouble with the Libertarian Praty is that it invites numerous ripe nuts into the party to swell its tiny numbers. Wander over to the Lew Rockwell site if you need to count.

The Libertarian CATO Institute has a number of grounded thinkers that conservatives would do well to read.

God knows we have too many fascist FReepers on the private property posts around here.


31 posted on 08/08/2007 4:32:45 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Orange1998

Mostly, that is about all they got.


32 posted on 08/08/2007 4:33:14 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: sergeantdave

Harry Browne ran in 2000.


33 posted on 08/08/2007 4:36:37 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: Cyclops08
The mayor of NYC will fight and kill our enemies.

Giuliani won't do jack except impose a police state on law-abiding residents in the name of "fighting terrorism." "Those who would give up essential liberty..."

Ru Paul will sigh letters of the marque and send pirates after them.

Nothing wrong with paying locals top dollar to hunt down Al-Qaida in those caves.

The entire “just war” argument is a mask to hide his cowardice behind.

Paul wants wars Constitutionally declared. He wants missions defined. Isn't that's what America used to do up until WWII? The simple fact is: RP is a Fruit Loop libertarian who has more in common with Code Pink than Reagan.

Name one issue Paul is liberal on other than his call for immediate withdrawal from Iraq.

If he was a real conservative, RP would be polling above 1%.

Paul is a real conservative, and he has more widespread support than you or the GOP establishment give him credit for.

34 posted on 08/08/2007 4:41:35 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: BlackElk
Are we supposed to be impressed by paleoPaulie as a flight surgeon???

Are you really denigrating Paul's military service to our country just because he didn't have his boots on the ground? Do you realize how valuable his role was as a flight surgeon?

Both of those weasels wound up antiwar antiAmerican jerks.

So when conservatives opposed Clinton's Kosovo War were we all "anti-American" jerks too? Gotta support the troops, you know! Paul has supported all defense budgets, veteran's funding, and military hardware so Reagan can win the Cold War. Had Bush properly asked Congress for a declaration of war, there's no doubt that Paul would have voted for 9/11-related defenses too. He still voted for Afghanistan, mind you.

35 posted on 08/08/2007 4:45:43 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: CJ Wolf

Because he looks like the spaced out LSD UFO California person (I can’t think of his name but it started with a L) they classify him as nuts.


36 posted on 08/08/2007 4:48:00 PM PDT by Orange1998 (4 Real)
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To: BlackElk
Paleoconservatism

vs

Neoconservatism

Paleoconservatism (sometimes shortened to paleo or paleocon when the context is clear) is an anti-communist and anti-authoritarian[1] right wing movement based primarily in the United States that stresses tradition, civil society and classical federalism, along with familial, religious, regional, national and Western identity

Neo's

According to Peter Steinfels, a historian of the movement, the neoconservatives' "emphasis on foreign affairs emerged after the New Left and the counterculture had dissolved as convincing foils for neoconservatism . . . The essential source of their anxiety is not military or geopolitical or to be found overseas at all; it is domestic and cultural and ideological."[19] Neoconservative foreign policy parallels their domestic policy. They insist that the U.S. military must be strong enough to control the world, or else the world will descend into chaos. Believing that America should "export democracy," that is, spread its ideals of government, economics, and culture abroad, they grew to reject U.S. reliance on international organizations and treaties to accomplish these objectives. Compared to other U.S. conservatives, neoconservatives may be characterized by an idealist stance on foreign policy, a lesser social conservatism, and a much weaker dedication to a policy of minimal government, and, in the past, a greater acceptance of the welfare state.

Consequently, neoconservatives advocate the spread of democracy to regions of the world where it currently does not prevail, most notably the Arab nations of the Middle East, communist China, North Korea and Iran.

neoconservatism "originated in the 1970s as a movement of anti-Soviet liberals and social democrats in the tradition of Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Humphrey and Henry ("Scoop") Jackson, many of whom preferred to call themselves 'paleoliberals.

Neoconservatives also have a very strong belief in the ability of the United States to install democracy after a conflict -

So if you call Dr. Ron Paul a Paleoconservate do you think it is an insult to him of some kind?

Ron Paul's brand of conservativism has been the conservative standard well before William Kristol and John Podhoretz separated from their idealogical brothers on the left and began trying to hijack traditional conservatism.

37 posted on 08/08/2007 5:17:10 PM PDT by KDD (Ron Paul for President.)
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To: CJ Wolf

“Harry Browne ran in 2000.”

You’re right, of course. Time goes fast when you’re having fun.

So who did run on the libertarian ticket back in 1996? I thought Browne ran in both ‘96 and 2000. Back in ‘96 I wasn’t paying attention - I was busy slaying extinct forest buffalo and snail darters and freezing them in preparation for Y2K.


38 posted on 08/08/2007 5:21:08 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: KDD
Ron Paul standing up for Western Identity?
He rather apologize to Hizbullah and make up more excuses for supporting actions in Afghanistan (no "formal" declaration of war) while calling Iraq unConsitutional.) The only candidate who has come close there is Tom Tancredo.
39 posted on 08/08/2007 6:46:08 PM PDT by rmlew (Build a wall, attrit the illegals, end the anchor babies, Americanize Immigrants)
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To: Orange1998

Its fun to post it because it is proof that Ron Paul is misleading people. As you said - Ron Paul was “elected to help his district” BUT instead he proposes money programs for his district BUT he does NOT vote for them. How is that helping the district???????


40 posted on 08/08/2007 7:08:56 PM PDT by Martins kid
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