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[Fred]Thompson's timing gamble may pay off for his campaign
The Concord Monitor ^ | August 8, 2007 | DANIEL BARRICK

Posted on 08/08/2007 2:36:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Word of Fred Thompson's imminent entrance into the presidential sweepstakes rippled through Republican circles this spring. Two months later, that talk is pretty much the only thing the Thompson campaign has to show for in New Hampshire.

But don't worry, all you Fred-heads. Thompson, a former Tennessee senator, may lack a Granite State office, campaign staff or fundraising team. But he's got one thing the other GOP hotshots don't: Dan Hughes.

"I'm sitting here in my basement ready to go," Hughes told us by phone yesterday.

Hughes, a former state representative from New Castle, is Thompson's man on the ground (or, underground) and, despite the absence of public events, he's feeling good about his candidate. Hughes said he's been inundated with phone calls from potential Thompson supporters since the ex-senator and actor hinted at a White House run in May. Many of the inquiries come from people already signed on with other candidates who now find themselves with a wandering eye, Hughes said.

"There are a lot of people who are, quote-unquote, committed to campaigns, and they're really not so committed," he said. "Some people started early, and in the their enthusiasm they signed on with someone. And now they're not too enthusiastic any more."

Hughes expects Thompson to officially announce his candidacy next month and a campaign staff to materialize soon after.

"In early September he will be formally announcing - hopefully. Although that hasn't been announced either," Hughes said.

Though he's not an official candidate, Thompson is acting like one: He's raising money and has visited most of the early voting states, including a much-hyped trip to New Hampshire in June. Still, Hughes said, Thompson is legally restrained from taking more formal steps - like hiring staff and buying television ads - until he files official campaign papers.

"He wanted to test the waters for him and his family," Hughes said. "It's a big decision to run for president.

We do hear, however, that the Thompson folks are busy interviewing candidates for jobs on the New Hampshire campaign and they expect to settle on paid staff here within the month.

Those staffers may have their work cut out for them once they set up shop here. Polls show Thompson near the front of the pack nationally but running a distant third in New Hampshire. Fergus Cullen, chairman of the state Republican Party, described Thompson's presence here in two words: "Radio silence."

"No one seems to be hearing anything from that organization," he said. At a meeting of the Republican National Committee in Minneapolis last week, Cullen said many GOP officials were speculating whether Thompson would abandon his candidacy before it ever formally began.

"The ability to build a statewide grassroots organization is starting to diminish," Cullen said. "There is a window of opportunity, and that window is closing, but it's not closed yet." Hughes, for one, isn't discouraged by such talk. He says he talks regularly to Thompson staffers in Washington and Nashville, and occasionally hears from Thompson himself, or his wife Jeri Thompson.

"I tell them to keep the lines tight and the powder dry," Hughes said. "Remember: We didn't start late, everybody else started early. And (Thompson) never bought into that."

Just in time

Sept. 5 is the day when Thompson will announce his candidacy, NBC's Tim Russert reported this week. That's just in the nick of time for the Republican debate at the University of New Hampshire, scheduled for that night.

Thompson hasn't made a "formal commitment" to that debate, Cullen said, but his campaign has seemed "favorable" to it.

"We've had some discussions with him and we've had positive indications," Cullen said.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa; US: New Hampshire; US: New York; US: Tennessee; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2008; election2008; electionpresident; elections; fredheads; frednecks; fredthompson; gop; republicans; runfredrun; whitehouse
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Fred will be the next president of the United States. You heard it here first...
1 posted on 08/08/2007 2:36:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If he gets in, I vote for him.
I’ve been singing his praises for months but it does no good if he doesn’t run.


2 posted on 08/08/2007 2:40:12 PM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time .)
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3 posted on 08/08/2007 2:43:25 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think what this piece is saying, though not very clearly, is that one of the benefits of Fred waiting is that it gives all the operatives on all the other campaigns time to experience buyer’s remorse for their initial first choice.

I hadn’t thought about that.

I’ve been saying all along that Fred is doing the right thing by not jumping the gun, by not following the conventional wisdom, by not slavishly obeying the media-decreed “new calendar” of when a candidate “must” get into the race to be viable.

This idea that starting late allows him to pick up a lot of dissatisfied people from other campaigns is just one more reason why I think a late start is good.

Trust Fred. He’s doing the right thing by waiting.


4 posted on 08/08/2007 2:44:46 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Fred will be the next president of the United States. You heard it here first...

You mean...$hrillary, hasn't been Ordained..coronated....crowned already.
but, the MSM have said so....
and they never ever lie. /s

5 posted on 08/08/2007 2:45:56 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....run, Fred, run. :^)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t know how much influence Hughes has with the electorate in NH but usually the people of NH expect a lot of one on one with the Candidate. Fred will have to get it rolling and spend some shoe leather up that way I’d guess.

In 2000 the then Gov. Bush won the Iowa Caucuses but got smashed by McCain in NH. So boots on the ground may be the most influential method to use there.


6 posted on 08/08/2007 2:48:17 PM PDT by deport ( Cue Spooky Music...)
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To: samtheman
I think what this piece is saying, though not very clearly, is that one of the benefits of Fred waiting is that it gives all the operatives on all the other campaigns time to experience buyer’s remorse for their initial first choice.

This is just a preempt to keep the fence sitters on the fence and uncommitted so they can support Fred when he comes in. I've built organizations like this. Wait too long and all the good people are gone. Most of them won't jump ship without a reason because they committed. McCain has given them a reason to jump as his campaign implodes. Romney and Giuliani haven't. So either Thompson picks up deserters from McCain or uncommitteds. But a lot of the good people are gone.

Of course, after a primary or two, someone is going to be looking bad and then their organization will jump ship. But not before the first primary--unless there is another implosion like McCain.

7 posted on 08/08/2007 2:49:28 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m with you:)


8 posted on 08/08/2007 2:50:04 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: samtheman

This idea that starting late allows him to pick up a lot of dissatisfied people from other campaigns is just one more reason why I think a late start is good.


If the 1999 primary season is any indication then you’ll start to see a few drop out after this weekend Ames Iowa Straw Poll. There are also a lot of undecideds it appears so someone has to step up and make the undecideds feel comfortable enough to give them their endorsement. Money or lack thereof after Ames may play a big factor also.


9 posted on 08/08/2007 2:54:35 PM PDT by deport ( Cue Spooky Music...)
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To: skinkinthegrass
You mean...$hrillary, hasn't been Ordained..coronated....crowned already.

No, but she does wear a hat.


10 posted on 08/08/2007 2:59:30 PM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I just don’t believe he’s a serious candidate for President. The only thing I can figure is that he’s hoping this charade will earn him the VP nomination. But even that’s not going to work, I don’t think. The only viable candidacy is a Giuliani and Romney ticket because they are the only ones who have enough combined money to challenge Hitlery.


11 posted on 08/08/2007 2:59:42 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: ModelBreaker

Two months after the official announcement:

“...and in the news tonight the Thompson for President campaign has picked up two more dissatisfied high level staff from the lagging campaigns of ...”

Hey! They’re all joining the campaign for Fred! Must be something really good about Fred!


12 posted on 08/08/2007 3:03:08 PM PDT by ZChief
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To: Brilliant

Rino’s aren’t electable anymore.


13 posted on 08/08/2007 3:04:13 PM PDT by ASA Vet (NO more Rino's)
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To: Brilliant
He has already said he will not accept the vice presidency. What else would you want to hear?! HE IS NOT RUNNING FOR VICE PRESIDENT!! I just love it when Hunterites, Paulestinians, Rudy-bots and Mittheads come onto a positive (or negative) Fred post and decry the candidate and bemoan his not declaring his candidacy. He is first or second in ALL the national polls!! If this isn’t a “brilliant” campaign what in the world is?!
14 posted on 08/08/2007 3:05:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: ASA Vet

Preach it, brother!


15 posted on 08/08/2007 3:06:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: ASA Vet

Is SHillary the best this country can do?


16 posted on 08/08/2007 3:07:52 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (If General Patton was alive, he would slap many faces!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Preach it, brother!
17 posted on 08/08/2007 3:08:31 PM PDT by ASA Vet (NO more Rino's)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You are really gullible if you believe a Presidential candidate when he says that he won’t accept the VP spot.


18 posted on 08/08/2007 3:09:17 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

Romney only has three million dollars left.

Fred has three million, and he’s CREAMING Romney in most polls.


19 posted on 08/08/2007 3:09:46 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: Brilliant
You’re probably half correct. Fred might except a VP role if Hunter were the nominee. He’d never accept such a position from a Rino. Why sully oneself by consorting with a liberal pretending not to be.
Doing so would indicate he has the same low character.
20 posted on 08/08/2007 3:13:39 PM PDT by ASA Vet (NO more Rino's)
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To: ASA Vet
No, but she does wear a hat

YUP.....that, a genital lock box, Red ChiCom $$$$, 900+ FBI Raw Data files, no record/"legislative baggage" and a "sycophantic press" does "wonders"

21 posted on 08/08/2007 3:13:54 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....run, Fred, run. :^)
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To: Brilliant

Which part of “Fred has NOTHING to gain by being vice-president” do you not understand?

He will go back to his nice life with his wife and children if he doesn’t become the nominee.


22 posted on 08/08/2007 3:15:45 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: deport

usually the people of NH expect a lot of one on one with the Candidate.


Have they ever expected it more than 14 months before the general election?


23 posted on 08/08/2007 3:16:15 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: Politicalmom

What does all of this really mean if we still end up with Hillary Clinton as the next POTUS? Socialism may still take over the entire U.S. for the long-term starting in January ‘09 if the majority of Republican voters and a majority of conservative voters fail to come together and vote in large enough numbers to truly prevent a socialistic U.S. from becoming a long-term reality.


24 posted on 08/08/2007 3:18:18 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: Politicalmom

At last report, Romney had $12 million in the bank. Giuliani had more. Add them together, and Hillary still had them comfortably beat. That’s why I say it’s gotta be Giuliani and Romney. Any other combination will give us a ticket with no money.


25 posted on 08/08/2007 3:18:40 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

I just don’t believe he’s a serious candidate for President. The only thing I can figure is that he’s hoping this charade will earn him the VP nomination.


I’ll wager any amount that he is the nominee, and that is is not the VP nominee. It’s a push if he is neither. (Though I’ll wager that he goes into the convention as a candidate carrying significant numbers of delegates.)


26 posted on 08/08/2007 3:18:54 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Problem is though that if states hold early Primaries in 2007 or early 2008 and Fred isn’t in the mix for a while, he could be out before he was in and that would be Fred’s fault.
27 posted on 08/08/2007 3:19:47 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I want to support him but criminy, WHEN is he going to start campaigning and I as so jaded about politics I wonder if this is all just a big rouse.....
28 posted on 08/08/2007 3:21:07 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Brilliant

So you are advocating RINOs on a conservative website? Gutsy, I’ll give you that; especially since Jim Robinson hates Rudy Giuliani, IIRC.


29 posted on 08/08/2007 3:24:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: Beelzebubba

Have they ever expected it more than 14 months before the general election?


Well not sure when they expect the boots on the ground but Jan is just around the corner..... But if Fred announces in Sept then he has only 4 months to get the state organized and meet and greet the folks..... Fred may want to do it at his pace but others that count [the voters] may want it at another pace. Who knows but Fred has things working in his favor at the moment.


30 posted on 08/08/2007 3:27:09 PM PDT by deport ( Cue Spooky Music...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Giuliani is better than Hillary, which in my opinion is what we’re going to end up with unless we throw our strongest candidate at her. At this point, Fred has not proved that it’s him.


31 posted on 08/08/2007 3:28:50 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant
they are thousands like me that are just waiting to support somebody.....not big bucks but enough to be impressive as a group.......

I have no doubt that FT will pick up a large number of "entertainment" dollars as well as athletic dollars....

Aunt Hill has basically promised tax increases and attacks against banks and lending operations, so there will be a number of business people in the mix too....

32 posted on 08/08/2007 3:30:06 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Brilliant

Romney has nearly $9 million in debt according to yesterday’s Human Events article, meaning he has three million left.

When Fred announces, he will have no problem with fund raising.


33 posted on 08/08/2007 3:32:49 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: Politicalmom

Romney only has three million dollars left.


That’s if you take away his debt balance that is shown. But that debt [or most of it] is a loan from himself isn’t it?. I maybe wrong about that but for some reason I think it’s a peresonal loan.


34 posted on 08/08/2007 3:33:46 PM PDT by deport ( Cue Spooky Music...)
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To: Politicalmom

The debt is probably to himself, though.


35 posted on 08/08/2007 3:34:14 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So you are advocating RINOs on a conservative website?

You may consider Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani to be "RINOs" but when you compare them to Shrillary, Obama, Kucinich and, dare I say, Ron Paul, they ARE Conservative.
36 posted on 08/08/2007 3:34:28 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Brilliant
No one's buying your BS, pal.

I wouldn't vote for Giuliani if you paid me. (La la la, I don't care if Hillary's elected la la la)

37 posted on 08/08/2007 3:38:24 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Brilliant

Neither Romney or Giuliani has a message, though. Fred Thompson, Duncan Hunter, and even Ron Paul have a solid conservative message.


38 posted on 08/08/2007 3:40:15 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Of the 3 you mentioned, the only one that even has an outside chance of winning is Thompson, but he’s squandering it.


39 posted on 08/08/2007 3:41:54 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In before Pissant bump.


40 posted on 08/08/2007 3:44:15 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Every woman, who can, should learn to shoot, and carry a gun.)
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To: Bobkk47

Giuliani is NOT a conservative.


41 posted on 08/08/2007 3:44:34 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: Brilliant
Have you read any polls? Senator Thompson is tied or leading Mayor Giuliani in all the national polls, so how do you determine “strongest” if not by polling? Intuition? Ouija board? What??!
42 posted on 08/08/2007 3:45:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: Brilliant

Prove it.


43 posted on 08/08/2007 3:45:21 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: Brilliant

“Of the 3 you mentioned, the only one that even has an outside chance of winning is Thompson, but he’s squandering it.” Tell us, oh brilliant one, what you would do if you were Fred Thompson’s campaign manager. You have our attention...


44 posted on 08/08/2007 3:48:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: Brilliant

Well hear you are again, on yet another Fred thread, pimping Rudy and Mitt.

It’s going to be fun watching all your skeptical anti-Fred “theories” get blown straight out of the water, LOLOL!


45 posted on 08/08/2007 3:49:13 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (PUT AMERICA AHEAD! VOTE FOR FRED!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm with you!

The Republic needs a man like FDT!

46 posted on 08/08/2007 3:50:42 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?" --Greg Adams--Brownsville, TX --On the other Front Line)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Fred will be the next president of the United States. You heard it here first...”

Fred will slay the Hildabeast!


47 posted on 08/08/2007 3:52:14 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Brilliant has been told that time and time again. Just a serial disrupter, IMHO.

Even if Fred hadn't said it, point blank, in the way he did, it doesn't take a "brilliant" person to figure out that at this stage of his life the last thing in the world that could even possibly appeal to him is being "second fiddle" in politics.

For that reason alone, I can't take what "Brilliant" consistently writes as a serious opinion.

/un-brilliant

48 posted on 08/08/2007 3:55:41 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?" --Greg Adams--Brownsville, TX --On the other Front Line)
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To: Brilliant

Brilliant, so let me understand this; If FT becomes the GOP candidate, he will not be able to raise enough money from Repubs to be competive against Hillary.

The whole of the Republican Party will not cough up money to support its candidate.

What planet are you living on- it certainly can not be your namesake.”Brilliant”

Whoever is the candidate, he will receive plenty of funds because the idea of Hillary as Pres will scare enough people that money will not be a problem.

Its the primaries that are the candidated problems regarding money, not the General election.


49 posted on 08/08/2007 4:02:15 PM PDT by EdArt (free to be)
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To: Beelzebubba
Have they ever expected it more than 14 months before the general election?

No, but they sure as hell do 5 months out from the primary.

50 posted on 08/08/2007 4:02:27 PM PDT by ksen ("For an omniscient and omnipotent God, there are no Plan B's" - Frumanchu)
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