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Grandfather 'killed by blister on his toe from new shoes'
DailyMail ^ | 8/8/07 | Unknown

Posted on 08/08/2007 3:52:48 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants

A grandfather died after a blister caused by tight new shoes led to blood poisoning and massive organ failure. Peter Catterall, 60, was given dressings by a district nurse and told the sore on his toe should heal by itself.

But just over a week later, the retired electrician suffered two heart attacks.

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But according to his youngest daughter, Sara, 21, the sore continued to weep, and when she went to see him a week later on July 1 he confessed: "This toe is killing me."

Miss Catterall said yesterday: "I am no nurse, but I immediately knew he had septicaemia because my mum had had it before.

"There was a hole in his foot. I told him he had to go to the doctor but he said: 'They have discharged me'."

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: disease; england; healthcare; hillarycare; illness; medicine; michaelmoore; sicko; socialism; socialized; socializedmedicine; uk; universal
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The joys of socialized medicine and the 'Rats want to bring it to you.
1 posted on 08/08/2007 3:52:52 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Blood of Tyrants

BUT THE MEDICAL CARE WAS FREE! That’s what counts. As with everything the Left touches, actual results don’t matter.


2 posted on 08/08/2007 3:55:16 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Perfect example of what Michael Moore, Hillary Clinton and the rest of the Marxists want for you and me. ARE WE GOING TO LET THEM?!!


3 posted on 08/08/2007 3:55:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Absolutely not.


4 posted on 08/08/2007 3:56:36 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; southernindymom

Shoes Made in China bump!


5 posted on 08/08/2007 3:57:20 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

He was wearing the “cruel shoes”.


6 posted on 08/08/2007 3:58:36 PM PDT by Nachoman (My guns and my ammo, they comfort me.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Sad story.


7 posted on 08/08/2007 3:59:27 PM PDT by sauropod (You can’t spell crap without the AP in it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He was a retired electrician and only 60 years old? Must have had some other medical conditions going on - like diabetes.


8 posted on 08/08/2007 3:59:37 PM PDT by ValerieTexas
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Come on..!!

A person has to have some common sense.

There are symptoms to be aware of....

Geesh!!

9 posted on 08/08/2007 4:02:54 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

No.
The lack of treatment killed him.
Another sensational headline showing that you can’t trust the media.


10 posted on 08/08/2007 4:05:17 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: ValerieTexas
He was a retired electrician and only 60 years old? Must have had some other medical conditions going on - like diabetes.

BINGO!!

That's what I'd guess...with some neuropathy to boot. Based on the "tight shoes" and blisters comment.

But it's quite likely/possible we aren't getting the full monty/story here!

11 posted on 08/08/2007 4:06:00 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“The joys of socialized medicine and the ‘Rats want to bring it to you.”

And a unfortunate man who didn’t stand up to the medical establishment.


12 posted on 08/08/2007 4:07:49 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

It’s surprising what a small break in the skin can lead to sometimes. Septicemia aside, a tear in the skin that gets infected can lead to cellulitis which can sometimes be difficult to treat and cause disfigurement.

The old advice about washing a skin break throughly, keeping it bandaged and seeking medical attention should it not heal or start to get worse is still very appropriate.


13 posted on 08/08/2007 4:08:47 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (PUT AMERICA AHEAD! VOTE FOR FRED!!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Shoes should be outlawed.


14 posted on 08/08/2007 4:09:23 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: prairiebreeze

Give me a break...if you are dumb enough not to tend to something as simple as this ailment...then I suspect something else is going to bite you in the @ss....just a matter of time....and the good news for the gummint...he didn’t get to draw of the SS system...for long...


15 posted on 08/08/2007 4:12:39 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I’m no fan of Nationalized medicine, but let’s be fair - He should have gone back when the toe continued to hurt and/or when his daughter told him she believed it was infected.

The usual things are usual. But when a wound is *unusual* in that it hurts worse after treatment, it doesn’t gradually and consistently get better or it gets better and gets worse - it’s time to go back to the doctor.

On the other hand - I’ve seen a woman die within 2 hours of showing up in the ER with a black hand, from a wound that was only a day old. She was an IV drug user, and was probably immune compromised, but the killer was the strain of bacteria, an especially virulent staph.


16 posted on 08/08/2007 4:13:08 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://ccgoporg.blogspot.com/)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Shoes should be outlawed.

No... New shoes should be outlawed.

Everybody should be forced to wear cast aside shoes discarded by the wealthy liberals. Used shoes, recycled shoes... Do your part and decrease the size of your carbon footprint, and wear used shoes.

17 posted on 08/08/2007 4:16:09 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Wound care is important. Wounds on the feet are very problematic. The problem is, you can’t do a thing but allow them to heal. This can mean serious moderate term bed rest.

Once you get a wound there, you need to moniter it frequently. If there is no infection, you need to keep the area clean and expose it to the air. If any redness appears in the immediate area, you must seek professional help immediately.

A wound on the foot can’t heal if you are mobile. If you take a shower the scab disolves. If you move the area, the scab breaks. If you rub the area the scab will be destroyed.

I experince this type of injury once in a great while. I have been off right now for 25 days due to a sore on the inside portion of my foot.

Once you get a small wound, it can increase from pinhead size to the size of a quarter in as little as about seven days.

The severity does depend on where the wound is located. It also depends on contributing factors.

I suffer from a hereditary circulation problem, but everyone should take foot sores seriously. As in the instance reported at the start of this thread, they can be fatal if not handled properly. A lot of people don’t realize this.


18 posted on 08/08/2007 4:16:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: Osage Orange
Image hosted by Photobucket.com yup... by time he finally felt real pain, too late.

that and the non medical treatment that is.

19 posted on 08/08/2007 4:17:25 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Shades of Ivan Illyich.


20 posted on 08/08/2007 4:18:38 PM PDT by Spruce
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To: oneamericanvoice
And a unfortunate man who didn’t stand up to the medical establishment.

Baloney!

21 posted on 08/08/2007 4:20:42 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

This guy had to have had some pre-existing conditions. I’ve had foot blisters from breaking in new Jordan basketball shoes in the 80s and I survived.


22 posted on 08/08/2007 4:22:14 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: DoughtyOne
I suffer from a hereditary circulation problem, but everyone should take foot sores seriously

True...but if you are getting foot sores often....one needs to get to the source/cause.

23 posted on 08/08/2007 4:23:34 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: ValerieTexas

In the 80’s, the retirement age in Britain was 60. It looks like it still is. You then get a pension but it’s tough to do much but just sustain yourself on the pension.


24 posted on 08/08/2007 4:25:46 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (I want a hero....I'm holding out for a hero (politically))
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To: Osage Orange

The last one I had was around 1996. I’m very careful with my feet.


25 posted on 08/08/2007 4:26:12 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Perfect example of what Michael Moore, Hillary Clinton and the rest of the Marxists want for you and me.”

You know they must have some kind of separate care planned for themselves - just like they don’t participate in social security.


26 posted on 08/08/2007 4:28:12 PM PDT by Let's Roll (As usual, following a shooting spree, libs want to take guns away from those who DIDN'T do it.)
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To: DoughtyOne
You sound like you are a good prudent person....

I wish you well!!

27 posted on 08/08/2007 4:28:15 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
‘our dad didn’t like to make a fuss’.......translated-it’s a badge of honor to be stoic and not go to the Dr. in Britain, unlike here.
28 posted on 08/08/2007 4:29:22 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (I want a hero....I'm holding out for a hero (politically))
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To: denydenydeny

I hate to say it, but the crappy system of medicine in England had nothing to do with this.

This guy ignored the swelling at the injury site, the stench, the intense pain, the fever, and those funny, red lines running up his leg. It took a week to happen, and he did not return to the doctor to say that something was wrong.

This happens in our country, too.


29 posted on 08/08/2007 4:31:00 PM PDT by sig226 (Every time I hit spell check, the fishies got all messed up. 'Bye fishies . . .)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Shoes should be outlawed.

When you outlaw shoes, only outlaws will have shoes!

30 posted on 08/08/2007 4:35:51 PM PDT by TheTruthAintPretty (G-d Bless our brothers and sisters, sons and daughters, fathers and mothers in harm's way!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Desperation in the singles bars
An’ all those jerkoffs in their fancy cars.
You can’t believe your reviews.

Oh, no, you can’t do that,
Once you started wearin’ those shoes

They’re lookin’ at you, leanin’ on you
Tell you anything you want to hear
They give you tablets of love
They’re waiting for you
Got to score you
Handy with a shovel and so sincere
Ooh, they got the kid glove

You just want someone to talk to
They just wanna get their hands on you
You get whatever you choose
Oh, no, you can’t do that,
Once you started wearin’ those shoes.


31 posted on 08/08/2007 4:36:26 PM PDT by Crawdad (I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no class.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; Liberty Valance
Nobody seems to be getting to the real point. If we had free government shoes none of this would have happened. If his shoes had been free he could have taken them back and the government would have made sure that he had the right size shoes. In fact, a team of government technicians and specialists would have fitted him for his shoes in the first place and even showed him how to tie his laces.

I am very series about this too. This is hugh!

32 posted on 08/08/2007 4:39:27 PM PDT by Brucifer (G. W. Bush "The dog ate my copy of the Constitution.")
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To: Osage Orange

Thank you.


33 posted on 08/08/2007 4:40:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: hocndoc
I’m no fan of Nationalized medicine, but let’s be fair - He should have gone back when the toe continued to hurt and/or when his daughter told him she believed it was infected.

Sounds kinda like my dad. He didn't want to go to the hospital when he had his stroke. He never wanted to go to his Dr. appointments.

Finally, he found out he had liver and pancreatic cancer after he turned into a "Simpson" (yellow skin) and it was too late to do anything but try and make his last month as comfortable as possible. Which, when your liver says "Bye!", is not comfortable at all.

There is NOTHING serene or noble watching someone die like that.

34 posted on 08/08/2007 4:43:38 PM PDT by TheTruthAintPretty (G-d Bless our brothers and sisters, sons and daughters, fathers and mothers in harm's way!)
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To: ValerieTexas

“He was a retired electrician and only 60 years old? Must have had some other medical conditions going on - like diabetes.”

A situation like this would be very deadly for a diabetic.


35 posted on 08/08/2007 4:46:14 PM PDT by tob2
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To: HereInTheHeartland

or at the very least have a three day waiting period!


36 posted on 08/08/2007 4:49:22 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Beware of the seminar poster.)
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To: Osage Orange
"And a unfortunate man who didn’t stand up to the medical establishment." "Baloney!" Why is it "baloney"? My Dad acted the same way. He never stood up to them. If my toe was killing me, they'd be hearing about it if they acted this way. And they wouldn't have discharged me either. That's all I was saying.
37 posted on 08/08/2007 4:50:59 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

DAMN!


38 posted on 08/08/2007 4:58:44 PM PDT by jaz.357 (...diagonally parked in a parallel universe.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The article makes it crystal clear that the abrasive effects of leather/fabrics on the body can be dangerous, and even fatal. I therefore propose that all clothing be outlawed as hazardous - for any and all women aged eighteen to forty-five.

“A nation which doesn’t care for its womenfolk cannot long endure.”

-Thomas Jefferton or George Washingson. Or somebody.


39 posted on 08/08/2007 5:01:17 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: oneamericanvoice
Why is it "baloney"? My Dad acted the same way. He never stood up to them. If my toe was killing me, they'd be hearing about it if they acted this way. And they wouldn't have discharged me either. That's all I was saying.

Because the guy went a week...without going back. It was obviously hurting him...as it says in the article. His daughter apparently took one look at it...and knew it was serious.

Why is that deemed, in your opinion....not standing up to the medical establishment? The "medical establishment" has a responsibility to those that seek help. It can't do much for those that can't or won't seek help.

That's why I said "baloney" to your post.

40 posted on 08/08/2007 5:08:42 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

My father just recently passed away. He was a veteran of the Korean conflict and went to the VA for his medical care. The first week of March of this year my father was either bitten or got a scratch on his forehead. This was on a Saturday. My sister went to visit him and noticed that the sore was getting bigger and quite red and puffy. She wanted him to go to the hospital to have it checked and he told her that he had an appointment for the next day, Monday.

He went to the hospital for his appointment and the doctor there told him that he was having an allergic reaction to the bug bite and sent him home. The sore on his face was spreading and by Wednesday my brother begged him to go back to the hospital...but my dad refused because it was just an allergy.

The next morning they found my father unconscious on his bedroom floor...so they called for an ambulance which took him to another hospital...NOT the VA. My sister left that afternoon, my father was now talking and wanting to get out of there..in the meantime my husband and I were preparing to make the trip out to the hospital to visit him.

I got there around 7:30...the doctor had just been with the family to talk about dad’s condition. Everyone was in tears..my father was now in a coma and they told us his only hope was to remove all the flesh from his face...he had Necrotizing Fasciitis...the flesh eating disease. His facial tissue was now dead..his head the size of a basketball...He was unrecognizable. The infection had gone down into his chest.

The doctor told me that this disease was quite rare...and I told him my daughter’s mother in law had just had half her abdomen and leg removed for the same reason. he seemed genuinely stunned.

We opted to take my father off life support...as we knew he would not want to live so grossly disfigured..and the odds of him living through the surgery weren’t good to begin with. We took him off the vent at 9 pm...no goodbyes...no I love you’s. He passed 7 minutes later.

It’s hard to believe that a bug bite or scratch could kill someone in such a short time...but it can and does happen.
Someone talked about socialized medicine...my father may not have died if the VA had taken their time to do a culture on my fathers swollen face.

I won’t even talk about the prostate cancer that was never treated for 6 years because no one bothered to look at his chart. he had a rough go of it for a while but he was cancer free when he died.Right now I don’t have a good thing to say about the VA...


41 posted on 08/08/2007 5:17:32 PM PDT by leenie312
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To: ValerieTexas
He was a retired electrician and only 60 years old? Must have had some other medical conditions going on - like diabetes.

Story:
The divorced father of three, who was on medication for heart problems and chronic asthma....

I would lay good money that the guy had undiagnosed diabetes, to boot.

42 posted on 08/08/2007 5:18:50 PM PDT by Popman (I removed my Bushbot brain chip after he didn't veto the McCain Feingold election anti freedom bill)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

Charming. Perhaps you’ve never seen a small medical condition become serious, regardless you’d do well to think a bit before you mouth off.


43 posted on 08/08/2007 5:19:45 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (PUT AMERICA AHEAD! VOTE FOR FRED!!)
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To: leenie312

I’m sorry for your loss.


44 posted on 08/08/2007 5:20:58 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (PUT AMERICA AHEAD! VOTE FOR FRED!!)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Shoes should be outlawed.

At least NEW ones....

45 posted on 08/08/2007 5:24:07 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (I will always love you, Flyer.)
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To: leenie312

What a horror story. G-D comfort your family.


46 posted on 08/08/2007 5:24:49 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: leenie312

Sympathy and prayers for your loss.


47 posted on 08/08/2007 5:25:10 PM PDT by TheTruthAintPretty (G-d Bless our brothers and sisters, sons and daughters, fathers and mothers in harm's way!)
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To: sig226
From the comments to the original Daily Mail article:

It doesn’t surprise me that Peter Catterall was given poor service for his foot ailment. I have suffered from a lot of foot conditions including sprained ankles, in-grown toe nails, plantus fasciatus and blisters, etc, and always the NHS practitioners were initially dismissive of my problems. I think the NHS has a very low opinion/priority for foot conditions because they deem them to be very low risk (to life).

48 posted on 08/08/2007 5:27:33 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: leenie312
I am very sorry for your loss...

I'm "in the business"...and have very few good things to say about the VA system.

That said...hindsight being what it is...many don't think about the potential for small sores..etc to turn into extremely serious situations...and delay treatment.

Heck..I'm just as bad as the next guy. And like I said...I "see" this stuff.

Human nature?

I dunno....

Again....I'm so sorry for your loss. I've been there.

49 posted on 08/08/2007 5:27:44 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: Popman

To boot? A tight boot?


50 posted on 08/08/2007 5:28:40 PM PDT by ValerieTexas
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