Posted on 08/09/2007 3:28:45 AM PDT by HAL9000
Possible discovered of America by Marco Polo before Colomb: account in VSD
'America - its West coast - would have been discovered by Marco Polo some 200 years before Christophe Colomb, according to a chart of the Library of the Congress in Washington examined since 1943 by the FBI and whose history is told in published review VSD Wednesday. This document, brought to the Library in 1933 by Marcian Rossi, an American naturalized citizen originating in Italy, “represents a boat beside a chart showing part of India, China, Japan, the Eastern Indies and North America”, indicates the report/ratio of the librarian of the time.
Called “Map-with-ship” (Chart with a boat), this document carries “a blazon drawn under the ship, an intersection of letters giving a name: Marco Polo. The strait which separates Siberia from Alaska is the principal subject of the chart”, notes the author of the article of VSD, the author and realizer Thierry Secretan.
This one tells that an examination carried out into 1943 with the ultraviolet rays by the FBI, American safety, “made it possible to establish the presence of three inkings on this chart, which was thus modernized in time”. The report/ratio evokes several assumptions, of which the possibility that “Marco Polo, who returned to Venice in 1295, reported in Europe the first information on the existence of North America, others that those acquired by the Scandinavian explorers”.
“If this chart is well of Marco Polo, it arrived to America two centuries before Colomb and drew the strait which separates Asia from America four centuries before this last does not appear on the European charts”, Thierry Secretan underlines.
The discovery of America is allotted to Christophe Colomb, in 1492.
Marco Polo, who forever spoken in the relation about his voyages of any discovered of ground in the zone of Alaska, said to his friends on his bed of dead: “I did not write half of what I saw”, Thierry Secretan recalls.
The United States of Polo?
United States of Polonia?
Beware the bed of dead.
How about the Vikings?
“How about the Vikings?”
They were much too white to get any credit in this new age of inclusive history. So was Marco Polo, for that matter, but Italian names sound vaguely Hispanic to multi-cultists, so he can have a pass until someone finds an African or an Arab to whom they can credit the discovery.
They are already crediting the Chinese.
Egyptian Reed Boats, Polyenesian rafts, Viking long boats and the Space shuttle Endeavour all highlight mankinds urge to explore!
I visited the museum in Olso where a Viking long boat and Heyerdahl's Kon Tiki reside. Wow!
Lief landed first.
Babelfish?
The fact is fairly well known. There are thousands of children who celebrate the event in swimming pools all across America.
One will solemnly call out “Marco” and the other children will respond “Polo”. Some believe this quasi religous ritual began in California and as it crossed the country took on the aspects of a game.
Native American Indians “discovered” America. Who “discovered” is really irrelevant.
There have been digs on the east coast where artifacts show man traveled here from Europe 20,000 yrs ago. Time has a way of hiding history.
It would not be surprising that a sophisticated ship-building civilization would notice the existence of an island chain and follow it to Alaska. But Alaska having the climate that it does, it’s also not surprising that they had little interest in the real estate
Marco Polo discovered them as well.
“How about the Vikings?
Marco Polo discovered them as well.”
Yeah but Al Gore invented Marco.
Christopher Columbus discovered the Eastern and Western Hemispheres although he didn't realize it at the time.
Ping to the maps.
Marco
Ya, and they made it across Canada and down the Northwest Coast.... and then there are those mooring stones in Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, Illinois, and the eastern seaboard.
Then how about the Arizona turquiose in Egyptian tombs? How did it get there???
POLO
All true. Marco Polo sailed up and down the west coast of America and nearly reached Greenland via the route over Alaska before the Northwest Passage froze over.
“There have been digs on the east coast where artifacts show man traveled here from Europe 20,000 yrs ago.”
Have you got an example?
Solomon had gold mines in S America and N America, in particular California the site of the goldrush a couple thousand years later. He, and the Egyptians, sailed east to America.
Right on! So why do historians want to credit Marco Polo and Christopher Columbus with discovering the American continents? They were known about long before these 2 yahoos.
At the time about seven European powers were trading with the Americas and all were keeping their routes secret. The Portuguese had several trading posts in S America, and the English in N America. Norway had a blockade against all prohibiting sailing trade with N America but the English and others took their chances when they could. It was a hot claim and brought a revolution in the power of the Church.
It’s entirely political, or was. It doesn’t matter now, but at the time trade with America was vitally important to be kept secret. Columbus broke it all open, and in favor of Spain.
EVERYBODY discovered america first.
the Egyptians, the ancient Greeks, the Chinese it is just getting plain SILLY.
LC Control No.: 20022794
Type of Material: Book (Print, Microform, Electronic, etc.
Personal Name: Rossi, Marcianus Filomeno, 1869- [from old catalog]
Main Title: A trip to Mars
Published/Created: [San Jose, Calif., Smith McKay] c1920.
Description: 4 p.l., 5-92 p. plates. 20 cm.
If Jesus was a Jew why does he have a Mexican name?
Just noticed I misspelled Columbus in the headline.
"Topper is an archaeological site located along the Savannah River in Allendale County, South Carolina in the United States. It is noted as the location of controversial artifacts believed by some archaeologists to indicate human habitation of the New World as far back as 50,000 years ago."
Thanks, Blam! Wasn’t there some American artifacts found in Europe suggesting they must of been here pre-Clovis?
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Where do you get 20,000,000?
The United States of Polo?
Sure, why not?
Either way, it was an Italian. Marco Polo, Christopher Columbus or Amerigo Vespucci, for which the two continents are named. The only guy missing is Julius Caesar. I’m sure research will eventually show that Caesar got lost on his way to Sicily during the Punic Wars and wound up in the North End of Boston.
So, THAT’S where we got the Orange Julius!
Don't know about any artifacts.
Old Egyptian mummies were found to contain Cocaine and Nicotine in their systems...both of those are New World products.
Don't know about any artifacts.
Old Egyptian mummies were found to contain Cocaine and Nicotine in their systems...both of those are New World products.
There's a rumor that Arizona turquoise has been found in Egyptian tombs but, I don't believe it.
Then there’s the fact that Columbus was a Messianic Jew, an offensive thought on so many levels. Can’t have that in our multicultural, PC society.
Last sentence, third paragraph.
Of course he could have copied the information on the map from Chines or other sources when he visited Asia.
That figure is the often quoted estimated population of indigenous humans on this continent when Columbus stumbled on the "new world".
The area I live in alone had large populations over a long period of time as evidenced by the number of artifacts that are uncovered (i.e., mounds, pottery, arrowheads, flint drills, etc) almost every day. You can hardly turn a spade of dirt here in the Sequatchie Valley without finding woodlands era artifacts. Paleo artifacts are a bit more rare, but they are found fairly regularly by those who look.
Well, I was being a bit silly, but I guess it just irks me when folks talk about Columbus "discovering" America as if nobody ever knew this continent was here. Millions of folks knew it was here, they just didn't bother to pass the word to Europe......
That point of view is not popular here. It has to involve white people or it does not count.
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