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Ron Paul big on 'Net, but media don't notice
Chicago Tribune ^ | August 8, 2007 | Clarence Page

Posted on 08/09/2007 7:14:58 AM PDT by CenTexConfederate

Ron Paul big on 'Net, but media don't notice

Clarence Page August 8, 2007

WASHINGTON

Of all the interesting little fish swimming beneath the currents of the major candidates in this presidential campaign season, none is making waves as surprising as those kicked up by Rep. Ron Paul.

The Texas Republican, who embraces a libertarian point of view, has been riding an unimpressive 2 percent in the polls, but if the presidential election were held in cyberspace, Paul would probably win hands down.

Paul's supporters flood online polls, such as the unscientific survey ABC News invited viewers to join after the Republican debate last Sunday. Yet, you could barely find the Texas doctor in the network's after-debate coverage, despite the vigorous applause he ignited with his call for an immediate withdrawal from Iraq.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
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1 posted on 08/09/2007 7:14:59 AM PDT by CenTexConfederate
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To: CenTexConfederate

This is a nice article. Let’s hope he has a good showing in Iowa.


2 posted on 08/09/2007 7:18:06 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: CenTexConfederate
Regarding web numbers, in related notes, it seems Google employees love Ron Paul:

http://www.mercurynews.com/portlet/article/html/fragments/print_article.jsp?articleId=6374886&siteId=568

3 posted on 08/09/2007 7:18:52 AM PDT by mnehrling (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: CenTexConfederate

Like Paul or not, he keeps things stirred up. And both parties could use someone to come along and pee in their champagne. :)


4 posted on 08/09/2007 7:19:18 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: CJ Wolf
Let’s hope he has a good showing in Iowa.

He needs to. Failing to come in 3rd or better is real bad news considering how much effort he's put in there (and the fact that several front-runners are skipping it).
5 posted on 08/09/2007 7:19:38 AM PDT by TexasAg1996
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To: CenTexConfederate

Break out the Kool Aid again.


6 posted on 08/09/2007 7:21:01 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: CenTexConfederate
In endless e-mailings or phone calls to talk shows, Paul's fans blame an insidious conspiracy to muzzle the "truth."

Is this the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy or a Vast Left Wing Conspiracy? Or are they in it together? That's it, they're all alike... no difference...

7 posted on 08/09/2007 7:21:47 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: CenTexConfederate

The media is ‘noticing’...and recalling Howard Dean in 04.


8 posted on 08/09/2007 7:21:50 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: mnehrling

Geeks and other smart people can understand him. It’s the simpletons that just can’t get passed the knee jerk reactions the status quo have been pounded into their heads over the years.


9 posted on 08/09/2007 7:23:00 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: Badeye

Clarence Page is a died in the wool liberal Dem.


10 posted on 08/09/2007 7:23:25 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: CenTexConfederate
I, um...

Aw hell...

It is getting too easy...

So I want to reach out and help with the Media.

Need a slogan though...

Got it.

Ron Paul 2008, a short wave in every bunker!

11 posted on 08/09/2007 7:25:06 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (I am not really a Fred basher, I am a Paulitroll. THOMPSON 2008!)
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To: Badeye

I wonder what would have happened in 2004 if old howard hadn’t screamed.


12 posted on 08/09/2007 7:25:39 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: rhombus
In endless e-mailings or phone calls to talk shows, Paul's fans blame an insidious conspiracy to muzzle the "truth."

Why does this sound more like a self fulfilling conspiracy, just working the other way to delude them into thinking there is more support than there is?

13 posted on 08/09/2007 7:26:11 AM PDT by mnehrling (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Clarence Page is a died in the wool liberal Dem.

Yep, I suspect he probably wrote about McCain in 2000 in similiar light.


14 posted on 08/09/2007 7:26:33 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: CJ Wolf

I wonder what would have happened in 2004 if old howard hadn’t screamed.

His stunning inconsistencies would have made it a landslide for Bush.


15 posted on 08/09/2007 7:27:59 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: CJ Wolf
Speak for yourself.

The sad thing is this Professional Geek understands him, and his ideas are almost great, but that ones that come up short are dangerous...

Which makes it fun of course.

I also know that Star Trek is not a documentary and they really are not out to get us...

16 posted on 08/09/2007 7:28:32 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (I am not really a Fred basher, I am a Paulitroll. THOMPSON 2008!)
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To: ejonesie22

“Ron Paul 2008, a short wave in every bunker!”

Heh, I got all three of those. The yard sign, the short wave and the bunker.

I’ll have to fire up the old short wave and see if anyone is talking about Paul. It’s been a while.


17 posted on 08/09/2007 7:28:32 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: TexasAg1996

He hasn’t put in that much effort. He’s a one man campaign. Come on now. No advanced team, opposition research. He relies on the internet. Now Romney has a virtual army of people on the ground. He’s spent over a million dollars on this straw poll.


18 posted on 08/09/2007 7:30:58 AM PDT by CenTexConfederate
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To: ejonesie22

“but that ones that come up short are dangerous...”

I understand your concern, we live in a dangerous world. It goes back to that Safety vs. Liberty thing for me. I haven’t seen another candidate that isn’t willing to sell out the liberty part on behalf of the safety net.


19 posted on 08/09/2007 7:31:30 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: CenTexConfederate
Rue Paul is a fruitcake.
He has his nutty supporters are trying to get publicity by suing the organizers of the Iowa straw poll.
They go to all the on line polls and blogs and pump him up.
20 posted on 08/09/2007 7:32:09 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: CenTexConfederate

“The Texas Republican, who embraces a libertarian point of view, has been riding an unimpressive 2 percent in the polls, but if the presidential election were held in cyberspace, Paul would probably win hands down.”

No, if the election were held on the net, more people would take these cheesy internet polls more seriously, and Paul would end up with the same national numbers.


21 posted on 08/09/2007 7:32:18 AM PDT by Vanbasten
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To: CJ Wolf

Let me know if you hear Dr. Paul on Alex Jones again.


22 posted on 08/09/2007 7:32:43 AM PDT by thecabal
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To: Badeye

Maybe, Bush against Kerry should have been a landslide as well.


23 posted on 08/09/2007 7:33:19 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: CJ Wolf

Columnist are taking notice of Ron. Page a is Pulitzer winner. George Will and Novak. This is going to be fun. GOP establishment is throwing one cheap shot after another his way.


24 posted on 08/09/2007 7:34:12 AM PDT by CenTexConfederate
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To: CJ Wolf

Maybe, Bush against Kerry should have been a landslide as well.

No, Kerry played a very careful campaign, and did a good job of blurring positions. Combined with the President’s noted communication problems....


25 posted on 08/09/2007 7:34:50 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: thecabal

“Let me know if you hear Dr. Paul on Alex Jones again.”

I really should get out more. Not sure who Alex Jones is. Is he on the shortwave?


26 posted on 08/09/2007 7:34:56 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: CenTexConfederate
He hasn’t put in that much effort.

Then let's say his supporters have. Let's be honest, if he doesn't come in at least 3rd with Thompson and Guiliani skipping the poll, he's in a world of trouble (not that I ever expected him to come close to winning the nomination anyway).
27 posted on 08/09/2007 7:35:20 AM PDT by TexasAg1996
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To: CJ Wolf
It is much more than that. We live in an instantly deadly world. We need to stop them before they can get us. Its not Red Coats, Paul Revere and wooden ships anymore...

As far as selling out liberty I am not seeing it. I have yet to see any rights of good honest hardworking citizens be trampled.

28 posted on 08/09/2007 7:35:30 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (I am not really a Fred basher, I am a Paulitroll. THOMPSON 2008!)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

The only fruitcake I see is you :>)


29 posted on 08/09/2007 7:36:26 AM PDT by CenTexConfederate
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To: CJ Wolf
Honestly, you don’t want to know.. if you did, it may change your view of Paul and the company he chooses to keep..
30 posted on 08/09/2007 7:36:29 AM PDT by mnehrling (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

No his campaign specifically told the nutty supporters to back off.


31 posted on 08/09/2007 7:37:05 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: mnehrling

Google employees are liberals. Liberals love Ron Paul because they think he will upset the Republican party.


32 posted on 08/09/2007 7:37:49 AM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: CenTexConfederate

The two biggest liabilities for Ron Paul are his idiotic supporters and his surrender policy toward the jihad.


33 posted on 08/09/2007 7:38:19 AM PDT by pacelvi (Islam is the acid that will dissolve the nation-state and led to the total breakdown of civilization)
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To: mnehrling
The company Ron Paul keeps
34 posted on 08/09/2007 7:38:26 AM PDT by CenTexConfederate
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To: CenTexConfederate

I’m sure at some point, the media will twist things, such that they will say that because Ron Paul has many supporters on the internet, the majority of his supporters can afford computers and internet access, and are therefore “rich” and that it’s not fair.


35 posted on 08/09/2007 7:38:39 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: CenTexConfederate
Paul's supporters flood online polls, such as the unscientific survey ABC News invited viewers to join after the Republican debate last Sunday.

Key words unscientific survey. Those are the only places cut and run has any traction.
36 posted on 08/09/2007 7:38:48 AM PDT by John D
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To: bnelson44
They also love Ron Paul (if you read DU or KOS) because he is anti-war, anti-patriot act, anti-war on drugs, and he makes Rosie esque comments about staging attacks on Iran, etc....
37 posted on 08/09/2007 7:39:10 AM PDT by mnehrling (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: CenTexConfederate
Not sure what that link goes to, but my company’s firewall blocked it as ‘hate speech’.. what was that video (or what was it tagged as?)
38 posted on 08/09/2007 7:40:48 AM PDT by mnehrling (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: ejonesie22

Living in the DC area most my life, we always had the fear of many nukes going of at any moment drummed into us. What has changed is that now it’s a smaller nuke and maybe just one, or a dirty bomb here and there. Maybe some anthrax, a sniper or two. All much more manageable stuff.


39 posted on 08/09/2007 7:41:06 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: pacelvi
The two biggest liabilities for Ron Paul are his idiotic supporters and his surrender policy toward the jihad.

You hit the nail on the head.. if it weren't these two things, I would probably give him my consideration, but because of this, I am prone to scrutinize him in detail (especially because of the latter item..)

40 posted on 08/09/2007 7:43:02 AM PDT by mnehrling (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: CenTexConfederate
Ron Paul big on 'Net, but media don't notice

That's because it's very easy for a small handful of people to make a lot of noise on the net. The net allows small groups of people to present themselves as disproportionately by the relative amount of noise they can generate.

41 posted on 08/09/2007 7:43:32 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Dalton Thompson - POTUS 44)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
The net allows small groups of people to present themselves as disproportionately by the relative amount of noise they can generate.

Disproportionately larger, that is.

42 posted on 08/09/2007 7:44:16 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Dalton Thompson - POTUS 44)
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To: pacelvi
The two biggest liabilities for Ron Paul are his idiotic supporters and his surrender policy toward the jihad.
Whenever a Ron Paul thread opens up, all you have to do is wait for a dozen or so posts and then start scrolling down. Invariably you find one that sums up Ron Paul perfectly. In this thread, pacelvi gets the prize.

Well said, pacelvi. Your post is right on the money.

43 posted on 08/09/2007 7:44:44 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: rhombus
"Is this the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy or a Vast Left Wing Conspiracy? Or are they in it together? That's it, they're all alike... no difference..."

Yes.

44 posted on 08/09/2007 7:44:56 AM PDT by Designer
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To: pacelvi
The two biggest liabilities for Ron Paul are his idiotic supporters and his surrender policy toward the jihad.

that, and the fact that Ron Paul is a Jew-hater.

45 posted on 08/09/2007 7:46:06 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Dalton Thompson - POTUS 44)
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To: CenTexConfederate
“The only fruitcake I see is you :>)”

Actually I really like lemon cake made with fresh lemons.

But the fact is that Paul has no really support.

Just a few fanatics busily posting articles and voting 129 times in every on line poll.

46 posted on 08/09/2007 7:46:18 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: CenTexConfederate

Clarence the cross-eyed Page sounds like a big Ron Paul fan (of course, that all changes by next June.)


47 posted on 08/09/2007 7:47:09 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: CJ Wolf

It pretty much was, only close because of the rat shenanigans in a few states.


48 posted on 08/09/2007 7:49:06 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Vanbasten
No, if the election were held on the net, more people would take these cheesy internet polls more seriously, and Paul would end up with the same national numbers.

Excellent idea, vote on the internet and let people vote as many times as they want.

I hope you're not suggesting that's a Ron Paul idea.

And I have news for you, while many of Paul's supporters consider themselves the true storehouse of political knowledge, both parties would immediately amass voting computor banks.

49 posted on 08/09/2007 7:51:07 AM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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To: CJ Wolf
"I really should get out more. Not sure who Alex Jones is."

I think he has a radio show, and possibly TV, but not sure about that. He also produces films about conspiracies. I've actually showed one of his films at our public library.

50 posted on 08/09/2007 7:55:15 AM PDT by Designer
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