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Is the Good Ship Fred Righting Its Course?
National Review ^ | August 9, 2007 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 08/09/2007 1:33:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The mood within Team Fred is a bit more optimistic with yesterday’s news that William Lacy will be taking the reins of the not-quite campaign.

While friends of Fred will try to make the case that the troubles of the past weeks were minor bumps in the road, I’m told the mood within Fred-land was gloomy, as suggested by the sudden departures and fairly low-profile schedule for the not-quite-candidate. What we on the outside didn’t see were the tensions at the top and a sense of confusion over what the next steps were…

A quirk of the not-quite-campaign so far has been Thompson’s collection of talented people and putting them in positions.

Randy Enwright, for example, has great experience running state efforts of national Republican campaigns in Florida, as well as a fine stint at the Iowa GOP. But was he the right man to run an entire national campaign? Now with Lacy on board, it appears he’ll be able to focus on his strengths.

I noted that Jim Mills is – well, was - a talented, smart, jovial reporter and producer for Fox News; the question is how he works on the other side of the microphone.

Former senator and energy secretary Spencer Abraham is not “campaign manager”, at least as that title is commonly perceived; he’s more a key adviser. Those hyperventilating that Fred’s close friendship with and trust of Abraham means that he automatically adopts the former Michigan senator’s stand on immigration are, unsurprisingly, barking up the wrong tree. (Perhaps candidates should impose some sort of ideological apartheid for who they converse with.)

Lacy is one of the few political operatives with the right combination of personal experience with Fred’s past senatorial campaigns and significant experience successful national campaigns – running Reagan’s campaign in the Maryland primary in 1980 and serving political director of the Republican National Committee during Reagan's 1984 re-election campaign, California senior consultant for then Vice President George H.W. Bush's 1988 presidential campaign. With him now standing out as a trusted and experienced voice, the “lineup” for Team Fred might finally be gelling.

Those of us on the outside might want to remember that while campaign documentaries like “The War Room” make it seem like Clinton’s 1992 campaign consisted of the Clintons, George Stephanopolous, James Carville and a bunch of young interns, a successful presidential campaign requires accumulating hundreds of paid staff and volunteers. Very few candidates – mostly only those in political dynasties like the Bushes and/or Clintons – can press a button and see a campaign organization with the right people in the right place assemble overnight.

Jeri Thompson’s resume, as detailed in the Washington Post piece, demonstrates that she’s neither a neophyte who has no business influencing campaign decisions like Teresa Heinz nor a natural born campaign architect. Like most candidate’s wives, it’s a given she is Fred’s most trusted and influential observer. The question, raised in some quarters, is whether she, or any campaign wife, has the objectivity to see the candidate’s flaws and to make the unpopular arguments.

I’m told Thompson himself is actually pleased with the not-quite-campaign so far, and is watching the still-pretty-high poll numbers.

One other note which might explain the troubles of recent weeks: John McCain has been thinking about running for president since 1998, and clearly has been taking preparatory steps, collecting staff, etc., for the past few years. For Giuliani, his heavy-duty efforts for the national GOP began in 2002. For Romney, clearly he saw his 2002 election as the governor of Massachusetts as a natural stepping stone to bigger things.

As of late last year, Fred Thompson aspired to radio commentator Paul Harvey’s job, not President George W. Bush’s job.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: conservatism; electionpresident; elections; fredthompson; reaganesque; republicans; runfredrun
Okay, so can we finally quit with the "Spencer Abraham is Fred's campaign manager" crap?
1 posted on 08/09/2007 1:33:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

2 posted on 08/09/2007 1:35:48 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I thought the Abraham story was killed as a myth within a few days after it first appeared?
3 posted on 08/09/2007 1:41:58 PM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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4 posted on 08/09/2007 1:42:32 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: mnehrling

Nope, surprisingly, it’s still being talked about on the many different sites I visit as one of the many reasons to not vote for Fred.


5 posted on 08/09/2007 1:44:15 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (FRED!)
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To: mnehrling
Not according to the Paulestinians, Hunterites, Rudybots and Mittheads!! They’ve been repeating it, ad naseum, on every thread that had the word “Fred” anywhere on it.
6 posted on 08/09/2007 1:44:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Wait, Spencer Abraham is NOT Fred's campaign manager????

I want my money back!!!!!/s

7 posted on 08/09/2007 1:44:48 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Every woman, who can, should learn to shoot, and carry a gun.)
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To: Theresawithanh
Are you posting the rebuttal article every time that comes up? We can’t let false information (about any Conservative candidate) muddy the waters.
8 posted on 08/09/2007 1:48:01 PM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

August is so boring. Writers are desperate for something, anything, to say. So they engage in tail-chasing exercises like this one.

No campaign is going to make any major moves in August. People are simply not paying attention. Fred will announce in September, as has been his plan all along.

It is not Fred’s job to fill their column inches. It is Fred’s job to be elected President of the United States. That is a big enough job without having to worry about making sure political reporters have something to file.


9 posted on 08/09/2007 1:53:15 PM PDT by gridlock (You cannot coexist with somebody who wants you dead.)
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To: mnehrling

I am only a member at two sites out of the six I regularly read. Every time it has come up, thankfully, a rebuttal has been posted. This still appears to me to be an issue that will never go away.


10 posted on 08/09/2007 1:53:31 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (FRED!)
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To: traditional1

The cure for “stuck on stupid” is going to get to enjoy even earlier primary dates. And if another states hops Michigan, all pandemonium breaks loose, as they’ve vowed to jump to the head of the line.

At this rate, Thompson won’t even be a candidate when the Iowa primary rolls around.


11 posted on 08/09/2007 1:55:09 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

GO FRed GO!


12 posted on 08/09/2007 2:03:58 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: CheyennePress
At this rate, Thompson won’t even be a candidate when the Iowa primary rolls around.

The problem with Thompson staying on the sidelines for so long will be his inability to get the backing of any state officials. Here in Illinois, all the State Senators and House members are already committed to candidates.

Another problem for him in Illinois will be getting on the ballot. Petitions here need to be circulated soon, filing is in December.

As near as I can tell, Thompson has no "ground game" in Illinois. No one will be circulating petitions to get him on the state ballot. Some of the Chicago FReepers may be working for him in that area, but here down-state, no one is doing anything that I'm aware of.

13 posted on 08/09/2007 2:13:47 PM PDT by Mrs_Stokke (Turn-of-the-century FReeper.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My contribution is waiting for the “October Surprise”..!!!!!!!!!!!.............


14 posted on 08/09/2007 2:14:42 PM PDT by GitmoSailor (AZ Cold War Vet===Fairness Doctrine for TV First!!!!!.....I'Am With Fred)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
No.

I hear Spencer had lunch with Fred last week, so it is obvious to me that Thompson is a terrorist sympathizer who spends his nights running Mexicans over the border in that “rented” red truck of his.

I heard they also ate hummus made by a Jewish woman who cooks for CFR luncheons on Thursdays...

That just means one thing...

NAFTA SUPERHIGHWAY!

15 posted on 08/09/2007 2:17:58 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I am not really a Fred basher, I am a Paulitroll. THOMPSON 2008!)
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To: gridlock

“It is not Fred’s job to fill their column inches. It is Fred’s job to be elected President of the United States. That is a big enough job without having to worry about making sure political reporters have something to file.”

You mean he’s not their FREDITOR? LOL


16 posted on 08/09/2007 2:21:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: Mrs_Stokke
Chances of a Republican candidate carrying Illinois (unless Fred Thompson is the nominee) are slim and none anyway, ESPECIALLY with the crop of weak conservatives on the current list (Bush lost Illinois 55%-45% in 2004, as I recall).

The only conservative candidates on the list now are not nationally electable due to lack of name recognition (too many people will NOT vote for an "unknown").

17 posted on 08/09/2007 2:22:18 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
For one, I don't think the "course" was ever in doubt.

Destination - White House!

18 posted on 08/09/2007 2:23:33 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?" --Greg Adams--Brownsville, TX --On the other Front Line)
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To: mnehrling

Actually a few familiar names persisted on this myth, despite the overwhelming amount of evidence to the contrary. You’ll notice these same people are a bit more quiet...lately.


19 posted on 08/09/2007 2:36:09 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: ejonesie22

The crazy world of conspiros...


20 posted on 08/09/2007 2:38:54 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: Rick_Michael
Crazy?

Crazy like a Fox!

Know what I mean ;-)

Oops, sorry, got to go, the Illuminati are at my door, have to sneak out my escape tunnel...

21 posted on 08/09/2007 2:43:01 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I am not really a Fred basher, I am a Paulitroll. THOMPSON 2008!)
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To: Mrs_Stokke

With all due respect, a republican has little chance of winning much of anything in Illinois. Judy Barr Topinka sees to that.

Unfortunately.


22 posted on 08/09/2007 6:59:20 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (PUT AMERICA AHEAD! VOTE FOR FRED!!)
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To: ejonesie22

LOL!

Do you sit up nights thinking this stuff up??

:^D


23 posted on 08/09/2007 7:00:16 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (PUT AMERICA AHEAD! VOTE FOR FRED!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
OK, I posted this on another (lackluster) thread (so I'm coming clean). I really do want to support Fred...really. And I sincerely hope he's put this time to proper use, building a campaign staff of national capability, ironing-in important supporters within the party and preparing to raise prodigious amounts of money (all things that can't be turned on a dime). But Really People. Fred it's time to

OR GET OFF THE POT!

24 posted on 08/09/2007 7:07:57 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

And sorry for the double, one shouldn’t try to eat dinner and post at the same time.


26 posted on 08/09/2007 7:09:02 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

That’s ok with me, it was twice as funny...LOL


27 posted on 08/09/2007 7:52:39 PM PDT by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABLER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: mnehrling

Come on, you’ve been around here long enough to a good debunking is no reason to stop spreading the same myth. We still get chemtrail threads, after all.


28 posted on 08/09/2007 7:59:01 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country. Right-Wing Conspirator and Friend of Fred)
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To: ejonesie22

Fred Thompson fact: When it’s cold, that white mist you see coming out of the exhaust of the red pickup? Barium salt!! CHEMTRAILS, MAN!!!


29 posted on 08/09/2007 8:01:39 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country. Right-Wing Conspirator and Friend of Fred)
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To: prairiebreeze; ejonesie22

My theory is ejonesie is naturally brilliant. He comes up with something really fast. No overnight thinking time allowed.


30 posted on 08/09/2007 9:04:04 PM PDT by hoosierpearl (To God be the glory.)
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To: prairiebreeze
Sad thing is I don’t. It doesn’t take but like 3 seconds.

It’s like fish in a barrel.

A barrel built with cheap Mexican labor containing tracking devices that link directly to the massive antennas build into the structure of the CFR facility that watches our every move and pumps fluoride into our water supply via Pepsi One dispensers in an obvious attempt to brainwash us into accepting a monolithic one world government. It is Pepsi ONE you know...

Coincidence, I think not!

Don’t even ask what they are doing through the distribution of Coke ZERO...

(See, just too easy....)

31 posted on 08/09/2007 9:17:12 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I am not really a Fred basher, I am a Paulitroll. THOMPSON 2008!)
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To: The Pack Knight
Damn, I knew it!

That bastard...

Should have known it to, only a fascist commie drives a RED truck...

32 posted on 08/09/2007 9:19:21 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I am not really a Fred basher, I am a Paulitroll. THOMPSON 2008!)
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To: mnehrling; 2ndDivisionVet
I thought the Abraham story was killed as a myth within a few days after it first appeared?

Apparently the word still needs to get out.

Why?

As recently as an hour or so ago I noticed a couple posters who were still under the mistaken impression that Abraham was the man.

However it didn't take long for them to be corrected, I'm glad to say.

33 posted on 08/09/2007 9:20:47 PM PDT by Doofer (Fred Dalton Thompson For President)
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To: hoosierpearl
I thank you. Maybe it is that, but it is also easy. Just act paranoid and sit in a corner with a dictionary of Poly Sci terms and a chemical element chart...
34 posted on 08/09/2007 9:22:15 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I am not really a Fred basher, I am a Paulitroll. THOMPSON 2008!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When I’ve seen Fred speak he says pretty much what I would say, and since I’m one of the most brilliant minds in the country I support Fred!

Fred and I have a feel for the pulse of the country and he’s striking the right chords, just like Reagan did.

Thompson is the marriage of man and moment.


35 posted on 08/09/2007 9:27:11 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Doofer
He got a promotion. He is now in charge of the brainwashing lasers that are emitted from the top of the CFR building.

Fred felt like Spencer could beter serve his nefarious purposes by helping to brainwash innocent children into to believing that Santa is building the NAU in his workshop...

Abraham is also in charge of smuggling in more illegals and Muslims terrorist via the use of small tequila bottles and hand made pinatas...

36 posted on 08/09/2007 9:31:39 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I am not really a Fred basher, I am a Paulitroll. THOMPSON 2008!)
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To: word_warrior_bob

I agree with what you say, and since I am the most brilliant mind sitting in my office, you must be right...


37 posted on 08/09/2007 9:34:38 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I am not really a Fred basher, I am a Paulitroll. THOMPSON 2008!)
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To: ejonesie22

We should let each other know when we’re doing some serious thinking, we don’t want to set off any Drew Barrymore like Firestarter flames on the innocent.


38 posted on 08/09/2007 9:37:01 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: ejonesie22

We should let each other know when we’re doing some serious thinking, we don’t want to set off any Drew Barrymore like Firestarter flames on the innocent.


39 posted on 08/09/2007 9:38:55 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: word_warrior_bob
Well I’d being doing good to light a birthday candle right now, but we'll coordinate somehow...
40 posted on 08/09/2007 9:46:43 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I am not really a Fred basher, I am a Paulitroll. THOMPSON 2008!)
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To: prairiebreeze; traditional1
The problem is not getting Illinois to go Republican in the general election (something that I doubt will ever happen in my lifetime), it's getting enough delegates to get yourself nominated at the convention.

If Thompson has no delegates, he will not get the nomination. That's why he needs to climb down from his ivory tower and get in the game now.

41 posted on 08/09/2007 10:50:25 PM PDT by Mrs_Stokke (Turn-of-the-century FReeper.)
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To: ejonesie22
Since every single candidate disagrees with me on at least one issue or employs someone who disagrees with me on at least one issue, I've decided that the only rational course of action is to vote for myself!

After all, I agree with me 95% of the time (lithium should take care of that last pesky 5% any day now), and I don't employ ANYONE! Now, I do need some help around the ol' campaign office, so I'm working on implanting my brainwaves onto several robotit servants until I perfect human cloning.

Only uniformity of all thought will do in my campaign. When my staffers order pizza for those all-nighters, it's pepperoni, sausage, and black olives for everyone, no exceptions. I'LL BE DAMNED IF I'M GOING TO SEE ANY CANADIAN NAU BACON ON IT!!!
42 posted on 08/09/2007 11:48:23 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country. Right-Wing Conspirator and Friend of Fred)
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To: The Pack Knight
I'm working on implanting my brainwaves onto several robotit(sic) servants

You know, I meant to type robotic, but now that I think about it....
43 posted on 08/09/2007 11:50:15 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country. Right-Wing Conspirator and Friend of Fred)
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To: ejonesie22

Articles like these put me in mind of the old proverb: The dogs bark but the caravan passes on.


44 posted on 08/09/2007 11:58:00 PM PDT by carton253 (And if that time does come, then draw your swords and throw away the scabbards.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Politicalmom
OK, ONE MORE TIME.

"FRED WILL DO IT HIS WAY, IN HIS OWN GOOD TIME"

HEAR HIM SAY IT AGAIN: Fred in mp3 file

AND I'M BEHIND HIM ALL THE WAY!

http://Vets4Fred.net

http://FredForPresident.com

45 posted on 08/10/2007 2:44:17 AM PDT by W04Man (I'm Now With Fred http://Vets4Fred.net)
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To: ejonesie22

Fluoride, eh? Thank God some one else understands....."

46 posted on 08/10/2007 4:34:25 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (PUT AMERICA AHEAD! VOTE FOR FRED!!)
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To: carton253

Fitting, very fitting...


47 posted on 08/10/2007 4:37:43 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (I am not really a Fred basher, I am a Paulitroll. THOMPSON 2008!)
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To: The Pack Knight
Sorry, I can’t vote for you. I like Canadian Bacon on my Pizza. So you're just one of those anti CB nuts...

Remember, if you vote for yourself too often you’ll go blind...

48 posted on 08/10/2007 4:39:26 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (I am not really a Fred basher, I am a Paulitroll. THOMPSON 2008!)
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To: prairiebreeze
Not only do I understand, my teeth have never been whiter...
49 posted on 08/10/2007 4:41:42 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (I am not really a Fred basher, I am a Paulitroll. THOMPSON 2008!)
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