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Russian Bombers Buzz US Base In Guam
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 8-9-2007 | Adrian Blomfield

Posted on 08/09/2007 1:45:57 PM PDT by blam

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To: Tommyjo
Not to mention that Guam now houses first strike aircraft and ships...

Lets do what Russia would...Shoot one down!

Mike

21 posted on 08/09/2007 2:07:51 PM PDT by MichaelP (Robby Gordon got hosed...)
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To: gridlock

Whoops! I don’t know what happened, Vlad. I had no idea that American Airlines jet had a missle on it...


22 posted on 08/09/2007 2:08:03 PM PDT by RockinRight (Fred's Campaign: A hell of an opening, coast for a while, and then have a hell of a close.)
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To: gridlock

Why would you want to splash an aircraft in international airspace? Last year these Tu-95MS were in the North American ADIZ. Still in international airspace. Reaction is shadow and monitor. It has been going on for years.


23 posted on 08/09/2007 2:09:09 PM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: blam

Maybe a stealth bomber should visit Leningrad. At night. In rain.


24 posted on 08/09/2007 2:09:56 PM PDT by doodad
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To: Tommyjo
It said they flew OVER Guam!

Mike

25 posted on 08/09/2007 2:10:35 PM PDT by MichaelP (Robby Gordon got hosed...)
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To: mewzilla

Let some Raptors pop up behind them out of no where and light them up; and see if they feel like waving.


26 posted on 08/09/2007 2:11:44 PM PDT by jbwbubba
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To: TChris

Dude, I just died laughing here. That is hilarious.


27 posted on 08/09/2007 2:12:27 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: blam
I spent 6 months at Andersen AFB during the Viet Nam era, 1972. I just checked the Goggle map and the B-1s there look fine and ready to go! The naval facilities included Polaris Missile Sub support in that era and I suspect that today the new Ballistic Missile subs port there as well.

They might want to reignite the Cold war along with their US sympathizers, AKA the Demoncommies, but no luck!

28 posted on 08/09/2007 2:12:37 PM PDT by Young Werther ( and Julius Caesar said, "quae cum ita sunt." (or since these things are so!))
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To: blam
"It was always the tradition of our long-range aviation to fly far into the ocean, to meet (US) aircraft carriers and greet (US) pilots visually,"

Just a reminder, you are in a LARGE, metal, turboprop plane, visually greeting fighter pilots....had the Americans not needed the humor, the only visual you would have had would have been the vapor trail of the missile incoming to make your turboprop a very large....kit.

29 posted on 08/09/2007 2:13:43 PM PDT by NorCoGOP (Visit my blog! http://shawnsblogroom.blogspot.com)
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To: blam

“is likely to have unnerved the Pentagon and caused further perplexity at the State Department over the Kremlin’s mercurial course.”

Your perplexed State Dept...half of whom are vested in the Saudi retirement fund.


30 posted on 08/09/2007 2:15:54 PM PDT by HockeyPop
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To: blam
Why don't we launch World War II fighters to intercept and not waste jet fuel.

Time to start building Corsairs and Mustangs as intercept planes for these beasts.

That way our jets do not have to fly at almost stall speeds to stay with the Tu-95...

31 posted on 08/09/2007 2:15:55 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Dude, I just died laughing here. That is hilarious.

Thanks. :-)

Sometimes a picture just tells the story better.

32 posted on 08/09/2007 2:16:12 PM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: blam
Putin is a moron.

At a time in history when the biggest threat facing both West and East is islamic fundamentalism, Pooty-Poot wants to dig into the past and revive the cold war.

Real smart, Vlad. Real smart.
33 posted on 08/09/2007 2:17:40 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Stop that!)
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To: MichaelP

Get back to me when the U.S. puts in an official complaint of the airspace violation.

That article posted is poorly written and very stilted. A case of lost in translation.

``Whenever we saw U.S. planes during our flights over the ocean, we greeted them,’’ Androsov said. ``On Wednesday, we renewed the tradition when our young pilots flew by Guam in two planes. We exchanged smiles with our counterparts who flew up from a U.S. carrier and returned home.’’

‘Flew by’’. Legally they can go up to the 12mile limit.


34 posted on 08/09/2007 2:18:51 PM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: PetroniusMaximus
meethinks the MSM got this backwards

the pentagon would be perplexed as to why the Russkies would use an ancient and highly vulnerable and not very effective Tu-95,

the state department was unnerved because this publicity stunt doesn't fit their foggy world view of how things are going internationally...

35 posted on 08/09/2007 2:24:08 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: Tommyjo
You are right, of course. But Putin has seemed to have made a decision to restore the former glory of the USSR to Neo-Russia. What do you think is the purpose behind all this provacative behaviour? I don't like it, and it makes me nervous....

Mike

36 posted on 08/09/2007 2:25:25 PM PDT by MichaelP (Robby Gordon got hosed...)
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To: blam
Response to deter this type of activity:P

1) develop a midair, stand off, focused electromagnetic bomb missile.
2) next encounter, warn at 12 miles
3) intercept and fire the missile and detonate
4) EMP missile destroys thousands perhaps hundreds of thousands of dollars of equipment.
5) maintaining aircraft for these flyovers becomes very expensive.

37 posted on 08/09/2007 2:28:24 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: skeeter
"Yesterday we revived this tradition."

And now we'll revive this "tradition."

And we'll revive this "tradition."

38 posted on 08/09/2007 2:29:49 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: topher

Don’t confuse props and turbo-props. You realise that the Tu-95MS cruise speed is approx Mach 0.67. It is the fastest turbo-prop in service today. Top speed is comparable to the B-52H. Tu-95s will hit approx Mach 0.8 flat out.

WWII fighters wouldn’t be able to intercept such an aircraft at height even in cruise mode. The Tu-95 would out accelerate with ease a P-51.


39 posted on 08/09/2007 2:32:26 PM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: topher
That way our jets do not have to fly at almost stall speeds to stay with the Tu-95...

If you follow the Wiki link someone put up, it's amazing how fast these prop bombers fly - significantly faster than even a P-38.

It's also amazing how similar they are to the B-52, in everything but bomb load (30k lbs for the Tu-95 and 60k lbs for the Buff).

40 posted on 08/09/2007 2:33:13 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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