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Guns R Us: Is it time to re-examine the West’s extraordinary fascination with firearms?
High Country News ^ | 8/6/07 | Ray Ring

Posted on 08/09/2007 5:54:56 PM PDT by kiriath_jearim

TWIN FALLS, IDAHO

As 7 p.m. approaches, the high-desert sunlight lingers with a golden hue and 80 degree warmth, favoring the people who pull their vehicles into the downtown lot by the Lamphouse Theater. Disembarking and filing into the movie theater, they appear to be a Western cross-section: carefully stepping gray-haired ladies, a guy in an electric wheelchair, a few sweet little girls, the vice mayor, a toddler clinging to a mother’s shoulder, two doctors, and the inevitable guy wearing camo pants.

Collectively, they would seem to have little to worry about. All around them on this mid-June evening, Twin Falls prospers, grown up recently into a livable small city of 40,000 residents, complete with branches of Old Navy and New York Burrito and Cold Stone Creamery, nestled in productive farmland and authentic sagebrush. Sprinklers green the crops at city’s edge, emitting a comforting hiss that is music to desert dwellers.

(Excerpt) Read more at hcn.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; crime; donttreadonme; gunrights; hcn; idaho; jackbootedthugs; jpfo; marines; redstradingshop; ryanhorsley; secondamendment; thegangmovie; twinfalls
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1 posted on 08/09/2007 5:54:59 PM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

Guns R Us: Is it time to re-examine the West’s extraordinary fascination with firearms?

Rather, is it time to re-examine the Left’s extraordinary hatred of firearms, and the liberties they protect?


2 posted on 08/09/2007 6:00:52 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: kiriath_jearim

Sorry for not posting a Barf Alert...


3 posted on 08/09/2007 6:02:41 PM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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To: theBuckwheat

No examination necessary. The criminals have them, we need them. A new ‘vomit’ causing flashlight is not enough (flashlight is to be available soon to military, border patrol, and policemen). These will have to choose between drawing a flashlight or a gun..could prove fatal to them if the wrong tool is chosen. If I had to choose between a gun and a technologically wonderful flashlight, I would pick the gun. I hope the military, the border patrol and policemen are not just issued ‘magic’ flashlights.


4 posted on 08/09/2007 6:06:21 PM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Guns R Us: Is it time to re-examine the West’s extraordinary fascination with firearms?

Guns R Us: It is Time to Re-examine the West's Extrordinary Right for Citizens to Defend Themselves

5 posted on 08/09/2007 6:08:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking its heritage.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Too late...already barfed. :-)
6 posted on 08/09/2007 6:08:41 PM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: kiriath_jearim

You can leave a comment on the article. I did.


7 posted on 08/09/2007 6:08:57 PM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Ray Ring. Sounds like a gay porno actor.


8 posted on 08/09/2007 6:12:10 PM PDT by appleharvey
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To: kiriath_jearim
nestled in productive farmland and authentic sagebrush

Ray Ring writes like his knowledge of the West was procured by watching John Wayne Westerns...in slow motion. Only an Easterner would call sagebrush authentic(personally, I hate the cheaper brands of sagebrush knockoffs).
9 posted on 08/09/2007 6:14:23 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (The faithful will keep their heads down, their powder dry and hammer at the enemies flanks.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

New York Burrito? Does such a thing exist?


10 posted on 08/09/2007 6:14:50 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: kiriath_jearim
Hwy don't these leftist gun grabbers re- examine their fascination with communism? Why don't they re-examine their political policies that all result in loss of freedom, and translate into slavery of the masses?

And last but not least, re-examine how they write stupid op-eds that start off with visions of happy go lucky sweet little girls socializing with vice mayors on perfect days where everyone has nothing better to do but gather at the local movie theatre and watch a western featuring two fags "finding each other" while camping in a tent one night...

Barf.

11 posted on 08/09/2007 6:17:52 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: kiriath_jearim

Don’t think I’ll be donating to HCN anytime soon.


12 posted on 08/09/2007 6:18:04 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: kiriath_jearim

Does this idiot get paid by the word???


13 posted on 08/09/2007 6:18:44 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: kiriath_jearim
I liked this handbill for historical irony. :)


From Jews For The Preservation Of Firearms Ownership.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

14 posted on 08/09/2007 6:18:53 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: givemELL

How about a gun with a vomit causing lazer sight? :o)


15 posted on 08/09/2007 6:19:50 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: kiriath_jearim

Of, for crying out loud.

The author of this swill is all for the incremental stripping of a constitutionally protected right. There was a reason the Founders insisted on the 2nd Amendment, because they knew there would be grabbers like the author who would seek to disarm the American people, and put them at the mercy of thuggish predators and/or a thuggish government. As for crimes committed with guns (or knives, or baseball bats, or rolling pins, or rocks, or shoes...), the grabbers always seek to blame the inanimate object (as if those objects had the mindset and the will and the ability to act on their own) rather than the human behind it. Let’s face it: Gun control has nothing to do with protecting the people; but it has everything to do with rendering the people defenseless, and thus dependent upon, or at the mercy of those who DO have guns (i.e., the controlling power or authority).

A disarmed person is no longer a citizen, but is — at best — a subject; but, more likely, he is a slave.


16 posted on 08/09/2007 6:21:08 PM PDT by ought-six ("Give me liberty, or give me death!")
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To: kiriath_jearim

Ray Ring is a sorry leftie nitwit, who ought to mind his own business.

To George Bush I say, get control of your ATF!

I’ll be back. I’m goin’ shootin’!


17 posted on 08/09/2007 6:22:51 PM PDT by claudiustg (You know it. I know it.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Yes, by all means, let’s reexamine them. I rarely need an excuse to get them all out and clean, polish, and examine my firearms.

Owning them wouldn’t be nearly as much fun if I couldn’t examine them!


18 posted on 08/09/2007 6:23:54 PM PDT by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: kiriath_jearim

I am not and will not be a subject or a slave. I am and will remain and will die a free man. That’s a fact.


19 posted on 08/09/2007 6:25:51 PM PDT by ought-six ("Give me liberty, or give me death!")
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bump for later


20 posted on 08/09/2007 6:27:25 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: kiriath_jearim
Guns R Us: Is it time to re-examine the West’s extraordinary fascination with firearms?

Yes, I did re-examine my extraordinary fascination with firearms. My conclusion? I need more guns. LOTS more guns.

Mark

21 posted on 08/09/2007 6:27:34 PM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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To: kiriath_jearim

this must coincide with the USSC supreme court case and the PRESS release the DC’s law firm released promoting themselves for using a constitutional database.

The MSM is trying to poison the jury pool so to speak. (ala the USSC law clerks and judges.)

It is VERY hard to have any faith in the law clerks of the USSC.


22 posted on 08/09/2007 6:28:35 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: kiriath_jearim; corbos; NYFreeper; Alexius; highimpact; nanetteclaret; guppas; ExtremeUnction; ...
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23 posted on 08/09/2007 6:28:42 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

no


24 posted on 08/09/2007 6:28:49 PM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Check It Out:

THE GANG MOVIE

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

25 posted on 08/09/2007 6:30:21 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: dynachrome

Did the web editor accept and publish your comment? I left one as well.


26 posted on 08/09/2007 6:33:21 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: kiriath_jearim
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27 posted on 08/09/2007 6:33:58 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: dynachrome
I did too. This is it:

Mr. Ring, my right to personal self-defense is not negotiable. It is not subject to "re-examination," looking at from another angle, reconsideration, modification, or "sensible" restriction based on false premises and false promises of safety by a government that cannot or will not provide it.

The notion that "no one is talking about confiscation of firearms" is a lie. Examine the Violence Policy Center's charter for proof to the contrary. The notion that Westerners are pathologically fond of firearms is nothing but sneering condescension on the part of those too lazy to learn the contrary, and I am disappointed to read it in your column. You know better, or you ought to.

The right to keep and bear arms is a civil right. "Freedom from fear" on the part of hyperemotional gun control drama queens is not. It really is that simple.

We'll see if they print it as well.

28 posted on 08/09/2007 6:35:44 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: theBuckwheat

I think it is also interesting that they haven’t noticed that it ISN’T the West that shoots AK-47s in the air at weddings and other parties. They are choosing to overlook the relative “mental health” between Mideastern cultures and ours.


29 posted on 08/09/2007 6:36:57 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: ought-six
"A disarmed person is no longer a citizen, but is — at best — a subject; but, more likely, he is a slave."

But, It's a society of slavery for your own good. Live how the master says, eat what the master allows, entertain yourselves with what the master provides and allows,and live in hte shack the master provides.

Then go to work and give the master most of your wages. It's for your own good.

If you speak against the master's vision, you will be punished.
That is the America Democrats/liberals/ leftist moonbats or whatever you want to call them envision.

That's the life of slavery my grandparents and great grandparents fled from in the days what Democrats today call "days of glory", when the soviet union established "the perfect world" throughout eastern Europe, and has leftist moonbats salvatating for today. Sure there were a few glitches, nothing the mass muder of tens of millions of people and children couldn't fix.

30 posted on 08/09/2007 6:37:17 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

I think you and me got a business.


31 posted on 08/09/2007 6:37:39 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: kiriath_jearim

When the 12 year olds and up in the Middle East and elswhere chuck their fascination with draping AK-47s around their shoulders, we might just give it a thought or two.

There is no shortage of journalist clowns on the horizon that keep us amused, is there?


32 posted on 08/09/2007 6:39:21 PM PDT by Grateful One
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Nothing yet, but I am using
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33 posted on 08/09/2007 6:39:37 PM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right.)
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To: appleharvey

Ray writes like a girl.


34 posted on 08/09/2007 6:41:40 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: ought-six

Everyone needs to get a gun or two and a case of ammunition in a cash-only, undocumented, private-party sale while they still can. Cosmoline the lot, and bury it, until the dawn of the happy day when the usurpers of our Constitution will be reckoned with once and for all. Your grandchildren will thank you.


35 posted on 08/09/2007 6:48:57 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: kiriath_jearim; Jim Robinson; All
Perhaps Jim might want to post a poll related to gun ownership of some sort...

Just a thought since the Second Amendment seems to be of intense interest to those of us who own fireamrs.

Just my $.02.

36 posted on 08/09/2007 6:49:18 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: kiriath_jearim

http://www.hellotwinfalls.com/crime.cfm

Twin Falls crime stats. I guess every two plus years one can get to love the property crimes. I guess this is great?


37 posted on 08/09/2007 6:49:27 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: kiriath_jearim

GyG: Some Thoughts ‘Bout Guns...
http://tinyurl.com/3x85yl
http://tinyurl.com/3x85yl


38 posted on 08/09/2007 6:52:18 PM PDT by gunnyg
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To: ccmay

When it gets to the point where you have to bury your guns, that is the point where you must be ready to use them.


39 posted on 08/09/2007 7:01:18 PM PDT by ought-six ("Give me liberty, or give me death!")
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To: ccmay

Save money and buy reloading equipment. Plus you’ll be able to get the most out of your guns and improve your accuracy with ammo that will have more precise loads.

Remember to keep your powders dry. It may have to last a long long time.


40 posted on 08/09/2007 7:02:05 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: kiriath_jearim

The fear and dissection of the Bill of Rights continues.

Licensing a keyboard as heavily as a gun might get the attention of these ‘pick and choosers’.


41 posted on 08/09/2007 7:06:57 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: kiriath_jearim

Right. The west has a problem. Unlike Africa, for example?


42 posted on 08/09/2007 7:07:03 PM PDT by james500
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To: ought-six

“It’s too late to work within the system, but it’s too soon to shoot the bastards”
- Claire Wolfe, Author of “101 Things To Do Till The Revolution Comes”


43 posted on 08/09/2007 7:09:14 PM PDT by gunnyg
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To: Nathan Zachary
Why don't these leftist gun grabbers re- examine their fascination with communism? Why don't they re-examine their political policies that all result in loss of freedom, and translate into slavery of the masses?

And last but not least, re-examine how they write stupid op-eds that start off with visions of happy go lucky sweet little girls socializing with vice mayors on perfect days where everyone has nothing better to do but gather at the local movie theatre and watch a western featuring two fags "finding each other" while camping in a tent one night...

Barf.

That's FRameable. And brilliant!

44 posted on 08/09/2007 7:09:41 PM PDT by Finny (Only Saps Buy Global Warming)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Evidently Ray Ring dislikes firearms but likes Old Navy, New York Burrito and Cold Stone Creamery.

I believe Ray Ring is a pussy.

45 posted on 08/09/2007 7:10:07 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (F' Akalla - D' Ethtislam)
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To: kiriath_jearim

high country is a LEFT of leftwing

group of pukes.


46 posted on 08/09/2007 7:11:34 PM PDT by ken21 (28 yrs + 2 families = banana republic junta. si.)
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To: ought-six
A disarmed person is no longer a citizen, but is — at best — a subject; but, more likely, he is a slave.

Nice shootin', Tex. Bullseye!

47 posted on 08/09/2007 7:12:15 PM PDT by Finny (Only Saps Buy Global Warming)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Because guns are just so damn cool!


48 posted on 08/09/2007 7:17:36 PM PDT by TradicalRC (Let's make immigration Safe, Legal and Rare.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity .
- Sigmund Freud

Quemadmoeum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est.”
(A sword is never a killer, it’s a tool in the killer’s hands.)
- Lucius Annaeus Seneca “the Younger” (ca. 4 BC-65 AD)

Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.
Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants;
they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.
- Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria, Criminologist 1764.

A strong body makes the mind strong.
As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun.
While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind.
Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind.
Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks.
- Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to his nephew


49 posted on 08/09/2007 7:17:43 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Ummmm .... nope .....


50 posted on 08/09/2007 7:22:46 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("If builders built airplanes the way FAA writes FARs then the first pilot would have been a woman")
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