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Fight Global Warming by Taxing 'McMansions,' Dingell Says
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Posted on 08/10/2007 3:23:59 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Fight Global Warming by Taxing 'McMansions,' Dingell Says By Randy Hall CNSNews.com Staff Writer/Editor August 10, 2007

(CNSNews.com) - The chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee this week announced a plan to fight global warming by reducing carbon emissions up to 80 percent by the year 2050. This would be done by raising gasoline taxes 50 cents per gallon and ending mortgage tax deductions on large houses, which the Michigan Democrat called "McMansions."

During town hall meetings in Ann Arbor and in Dearborn, Rep. John Dingell said he will make these proposals as part of a multi-tiered bill he will introduce on Sept. 1 in his committee, which handles legislation dealing with global warming.

Some home-contracting firms, however, criticized Dingell's proposal as misguided and economically detrimental. And some conservative tax experts agreed, noting that Americans already pay too much in taxes and raising taxes more will only curtail consumption and investment.

Rep. John Dingell (D-Mich.)Dingell said his measure will call for an economy-wide tax of about $100 per ton of carbon dioxide emissions; a cap-and-trade system that limits emissions but allows companies that pollute beyond their limits to buy credits from industries that produce less than their allotment; and provide extra funding for research on renewable energy.

But the congressman's most controversial recommendation was to take away the mortgage interest deduction for "McMansions," which he defined as homes larger than 3,000 square feet and which use more energy than smaller houses.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 110th; agw; dingell; energy; liberals; marxist; mcmansions; taxincrease
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makes one wonder...
1 posted on 08/10/2007 3:24:01 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

2000 sf here. If we had a tax on bad ideas, Congress would wipe out the deficit.


2 posted on 08/10/2007 3:27:45 AM PDT by palmer
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To: Sub-Driver
“makes one wonder...”

Wonder what? Wonder how someone like Dingell winds up in Congress? Wonder if he understands the implications of what he is saying regarding effects on the economy? Wonder how big his house is? Wonder why they don’t just get it over with and start debating the relative merits of socialism and communism on the house floor? Wonder what planet Dingell is from?

3 posted on 08/10/2007 3:30:56 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Sub-Driver

He inheritted his seat from Dad, and wants to pass it on to his son.

Congress should be a stint and not a career.


4 posted on 08/10/2007 3:31:27 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (If Roger Maris got an asterisk next to his name, Bonds should get a syringe)
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To: Sub-Driver
homes larger than 3,000 square feet and which use more energy than smaller houses

You mean larger homes use more energy than smaller homes?

Who knew?

This is gonna be bad news for Al McGore.

5 posted on 08/10/2007 3:32:10 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Tax Dingell instead ... Frankenstein’s law - you make the monster, you live with the monster.


6 posted on 08/10/2007 3:32:55 AM PDT by sono (“This concludes our coverage.” Finally, Overbite speaks sense.)
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To: Sub-Driver

This anthropogenic global warming scam is all about raising taxes, growing government and separating the citizens from their God given freedom.


7 posted on 08/10/2007 3:33:07 AM PDT by Beowulf
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To: Sub-Driver
Wow, 3,000 sqft is a “mansion”...

There really is no end to government trying to dictate how one lives...

8 posted on 08/10/2007 3:33:23 AM PDT by DB
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To: Izzy Dunne

Al Gore, Ted Kennedy, and John Edwards homes could pay off the national debt under Dingbat’s proposal,


9 posted on 08/10/2007 3:33:31 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.)
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To: Mikey_1962
Congress should be a stint and not a career.

"Congressional Dynasty" should also be an oxymoron.
10 posted on 08/10/2007 3:33:41 AM PDT by Kozak
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To: Sub-Driver
raising gasoline taxes 50 cents per gallon

If Exxon's profit of 11c per gallon is "obscene" and "windfall" and such, then what the heck is this 50c tax, on top of the 40+c they have already?

11 posted on 08/10/2007 3:34:00 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Well ....

The home mortgage interest deduction should go. So should the non-taxable status of employer contributions to health and pension plans and all the rest of the big sacred cow loopholes. The best way to do this is comprehensive tax reform in which the loopholes are axed in return for a lowering of the rates. But I'm not sure that I object to a retail approach, especially if dems want to take the heat.

The home mortgage interest deduction is a classic regressive subsidy. It is also largely capitalized into the purchase price, which means it drives housing cost inflation. Harry Homeowner pays a higher price up front and recoups when he sells. The real subsidy goes to realtors and mortgage lenders, the middlemen who work off a percentage. Anything that inflates housing costs boosts their bottom line.

12 posted on 08/10/2007 3:39:23 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: Mikey_1962

“Congress should be a stint and not a career.”

...and not a family business.


13 posted on 08/10/2007 3:42:01 AM PDT by Irish Luck
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To: DB

Tovarisch, everyone should be cramped into Soviet Union style apartment blocks. Except for of course the special Party people.

And next will be waiting in line at the grocery store for nothing, since food should be produced no more than 20 kilometers from where it is consumed.

This is where the extreme greens want to take us. Yet another attempt at creating Socialist Workers Paradise. It’s only killed 100 million people so far, so what’s a few more?


14 posted on 08/10/2007 3:42:07 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: Sub-Driver

Want to end global warming? I have a better idea. How about gagging libs?


15 posted on 08/10/2007 3:42:25 AM PDT by Tabi Katz
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To: FormerACLUmember

Keep on talking liberals, Tax and Spend, Tax and Spend, that seems to be all that they know.

A 5 cent a galloon GW tax, now a tax on large homes for GW, someone please tell me gain that Man Centered Global Warming is the cause of increasing taxes...the Socialists excuse made plain.

Pay your tithe at the Church of Global Warming and fall to your knees and repent if you please for destroying the Earth.../s


16 posted on 08/10/2007 3:42:47 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: sphinx
The home mortgage interest deduction should go.

Maybe, but dang if if it should happen for environmental reasons.

If the DingellBerries tax us, and global worming lessens (which it will), then it just encourages the "I told you so" aspect, and they think the tax actually helped.

Let's not encourage them.

17 posted on 08/10/2007 3:43:18 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Sub-Driver; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; honolulugal; SideoutFred; Ole Okie; ...


FReepmail me to get on or off
Click on POGW graphic for full GW rundown
Dr. John Ray's
GREENIE WATCH


"Just another tax-mad jackass alert"
18 posted on 08/10/2007 3:43:45 AM PDT by xcamel ("It's Talk Thompson Time!" >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
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To: Sub-Driver

19 posted on 08/10/2007 3:44:52 AM PDT by Fresh Wind
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To: Sub-Driver

Speechless.


20 posted on 08/10/2007 3:45:39 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Sub-Driver

This is part of what all the global warming crap is really all about. Taxation.

It’s getting closer to 1776 every day.


21 posted on 08/10/2007 3:46:51 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Sub-Driver
I've livid that John Dingell wants to drive me out of my home! I'm being punished because I don't live in a tiny studio apartment.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

22 posted on 08/10/2007 3:46:59 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Sub-Driver
What about a house almost 30,000 sf?


23 posted on 08/10/2007 3:47:02 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Sub-Driver

Makes me wonder why somebody doesn’t take Dingell into a back alley.


24 posted on 08/10/2007 3:49:22 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Izzy Dunne
Yeah? So what - I don't see the elite give up their big mansions. Average Americans have finally attained a dream only the very wealthy once had and that's to live in a comfortable and roomy house. And liberals hate the riffraff for living McMansions. We don't have the right to enjoy the best conditions of life in our country because of a "carbon footprint." These people again - are NUTS!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

25 posted on 08/10/2007 3:50:15 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Politicalmom

Congress Critter ping!


26 posted on 08/10/2007 3:50:34 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Sub-Driver

I thought lot size was a factor. I can barely see my neighbors, even from the widow’s walk.


27 posted on 08/10/2007 3:51:48 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: Beowulf
Exactly - liberalism is about shared misery. The global warming hoax is a cover to advance an agenda most Americans reject... higher taxes, more regulations and liberals like Dingell running our lives - for the common good, of course.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

28 posted on 08/10/2007 3:52:43 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: finnman69
Oh the Breck Girls can afford Dingell's loss of the mortgage deduction. The Little Folks wouldn't be as fortunate. Who needs the middle class?

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

29 posted on 08/10/2007 3:55:21 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Sub-Driver

Class warfare...


30 posted on 08/10/2007 3:56:42 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: Sub-Driver

What a complete and total drooling idiot. Words truly just fail here.......


31 posted on 08/10/2007 3:57:37 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Sub-Driver
The socialists' answer to global warming is "McTaxes"? Every solution involves raising taxes.....

I'm picking up a pattern here.....

32 posted on 08/10/2007 3:58:53 AM PDT by traditional1
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To: Sub-Driver

Quaint old Chappaqua wind tunnels use more energy in a day than a new McMansion uses in a month. But the elitists sit in front of their fireplaces shivering and passing judgement on everyone else.

Check this out:

http://give-n-go.blogspot.com/2007/01/mcmansions-i-want-one.html


33 posted on 08/10/2007 4:00:22 AM PDT by joeystoy
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To: Thrownatbirth
And what makes a 2,000 sq ft home a McMansion? Aesthetics? Political correctness? Or class envy? For some reason, the Left is awfully concerned with making value judgments about people's buying habits and its not like they ever judge people's behavior. They do legislate their own version of morality. Its not just one most of us think is a present danger to Our Republic.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

34 posted on 08/10/2007 4:00:30 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: traditional1

More taxes AND less freedom.


35 posted on 08/10/2007 4:00:59 AM PDT by joeystoy
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To: traditional1
Taxes on bridges, junk foods, driving and living in the wrong kind of house. Yep, there's a pattern and once these people get started, they never stop.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

36 posted on 08/10/2007 4:02:15 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: RightOnline

The more these foaming morons on the left open their mealy mouths, the more loathesome their agenda becomes to the average joe.

These droolers should be wired for sound 24/7.


37 posted on 08/10/2007 4:06:34 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it!)
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To: Sub-Driver
I vote for the obscene Kennedy compound and the Edward’s mansion to be the first heavily taxed
38 posted on 08/10/2007 4:07:17 AM PDT by Lewite (Praise YAHWEH and Proclaim His Wonderful Name! Islam, the end time Beast-the harlot of Babylon.)
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To: palmer
“But the congressman’s most controversial recommendation was to take away the mortgage interest deduction for “McMansions,” which he defined as homes larger than 3,000 square feet and which use more energy than smaller houses.”

Actually, I have been waiting for some time for the Left to get around to this. Now that they have become bored with beating up on suv's guess this is the next hit job on their list. However, just as with suv’s which these people hide by registering them to entities other than their own names, the Left Power Elite will naturally legislatively be provided with an exemption to such a law. After all, most of these people not only have very large primary homes, villas, and compounds, they have several others scattered around the planet - which they travel to on their private jets, yachts, etc. These people are the epitimey of hypocrisy.

39 posted on 08/10/2007 4:08:17 AM PDT by snoringbear (')
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To: snoringbear
Of they are. They just want to make sure no else gets to enjoy their living in the lap of luxury.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

40 posted on 08/10/2007 4:09:52 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Sub-Driver

If guys like Dingell had to pay stupidity offsets, most of us FReepers would be rich.


41 posted on 08/10/2007 4:13:20 AM PDT by generally (Ask me about FReepers Folding@Home)
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To: sono

Rush Limbaugh was right. Global warming is all about new taxes.


42 posted on 08/10/2007 4:14:06 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
Wonder how big his house is?

If I were to guess.....2,999 s.f.

43 posted on 08/10/2007 4:14:10 AM PDT by jslade (The beatings well cease when morale improves!)
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To: Sub-Driver

The liberals were sitting around trying to come up with new ways to tax, someone suggested taxing the air you breathe but that was sent to committee to be revisited later. They then decided that they needed a cause that would require funding to support. They called it Global Warming and we will all pay our hard earned money into its money pit for imaginary research and investigatons for years to come.


44 posted on 08/10/2007 4:21:00 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: Sub-Driver

The liberals were sitting around trying to come up with new ways to tax, someone suggested taxing the air you breathe but that was sent to committee to be revisited later. They then decided that they needed a cause that would require funding to support. They called it Global Warming and we will all pay our hard earned money into its money pit for imaginary research and investigatons for years to come.


45 posted on 08/10/2007 4:21:05 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: BuffaloJack

Furthermore, this is why certain liberals want the 2nd Amendment repealed.


46 posted on 08/10/2007 4:24:22 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Sub-Driver
I have a better idea.

Let's impose a special tax on members of Congress, and people on their staffs.

ML/NJ

47 posted on 08/10/2007 4:30:29 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Sub-Driver
The chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee this week announced a plan to fight global warming by reducing carbon emissions up to 80 percent by the year 2050.

80%! That's just stupid.

20% of the human caused CO2 emissions in this country are from respiration. In other words, if we all sat in the dark in caves all day and did nothing but breathe, we would approach the target of an 80% reduction in CO2 emissions.

48 posted on 08/10/2007 4:30:58 AM PDT by gridlock (GLOBAL WARMING IS A HOAX)
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To: Sub-Driver

Hey, we’re busy building a soviet socialist utopia in Michigan. You can buy a three bedroom, two bath house in Detroit for about the cost of a new car, complete with gangbangers, crooked politicians and burteaucrats needing a bribe.

Comrades, join is in our one state recession with the highest unemployment in the nation, the only state with a negative growth and the No. 1 state in productive citizens fleeing. Then you, too, can vote communists like Dingbells into office forever.


49 posted on 08/10/2007 4:31:33 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: BuffaloJack

“to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men” not to inflict pain.


50 posted on 08/10/2007 4:32:06 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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