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PBS Affiliates to air ABG Film's- "ISLAM V. ISLAMISTS: VOICES FROM THE MUSLIM CENTER
AIFD ^ | August 9, 2007

Posted on 08/10/2007 5:49:38 AM PDT by nuconvert

PBS Affiliates to air ABG Film's- "ISLAM V. ISLAMISTS: VOICES FROM THE MUSLIM CENTER with follow-up Panel Discussion"

August 9, 2007

AIFD Press Release

Phoenix, Arizona:

1. AIFD Calls your attention to the official release and national distribution by Oregon Public Broadcasting (OPB) of Islam v. Islamists: Voices from the Muslim Center with a follow-up discussion. This documentary was set to be part of the high-profile Corporation of Public Broadcasting (CPB) Crossroads Program released in April 2007 before CPB reviewers refused to allow its release. Now through an agreement reached between CPB and ABG Films, Inc. and OPB, the film is being distributed nationally through OPB and PBS for airing in August 2007.

2. The documentary features moderate Muslims fighting Islamism around the world in Denmark, Toronto, Flint, Chicago, Phoenix and Paris. Dr. Jasser, AIFD Chairman, is among those profiled.

3. It is set to air locally in Phoenix through local PBS affiliate KAET on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 at 10PM-11PM PST. The follow-up discussion panel will air from 11 PM-11:30 PST.

The follow-up panel discussion organized by OPB will debate some of the ideas presented in the documentary concerning Islam and Islamism. It is hosted by John Hockenberry and will include the following Muslim panel:

M. Zuhdi Jasser, Chairman, American Islamic Forum for Democracy

Ahmed Rehab, Executive Director, CAIR-Chicago

Rafia Zakaria, attorney and doctoral student in political science, Indiana University and associate editor for alt.muslim

4. Check your local PBS listings for times in your area. If it is not scheduled or publicized directly contact your affiliate to find out why. Currently, the documentary and discussion is reported to be scheduled to air in around 40 markets including Detroit, Denver, San Francisco, Philadelphia, Boston, San Jose, Houston, and Dallas.

5. For a background of the controversy, and censorship issues surrounding CPB and the national release of this film as originally intended with the Crossroads Series please see www.freethefilm.net


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1 posted on 08/10/2007 5:49:41 AM PDT by nuconvert
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This is the original film, not the spliced version that FOX showed a month ago


2 posted on 08/10/2007 5:57:34 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there are bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: Valin

Pong


3 posted on 08/10/2007 6:03:49 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there are bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: nuconvert

The Heritage Foundation showed this film (with permission from PBS IIRC) and there’s a video on their website of the Q&A that followed the showing.

I recommend viewing this Q&A , it reveals a lot of information. Plus you’ll learn that even the Producers of the Film themselves have doubts that “moderate Moslems” so-called even exist.. or if they exist , have any influence.

http://www.heritage.org/Press/Events/ev071207b.cfm


4 posted on 08/10/2007 6:57:49 AM PDT by pacelvi (Islam is the acid that will dissolve the nation-state and led to the total breakdown of civilization)
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To: nuconvert

Just more lying to the infidels.


5 posted on 08/10/2007 7:15:25 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: beethovenfan

Thank you for your learned opinion


6 posted on 08/10/2007 7:23:00 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there are bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: pacelvi

Since the film makers interviewed moderates, like Dr. Jasser and Kabbani and others, and titled the film, “Voices from the Muslim Center” to let people know they exist, I doubt they question the existence of moderates. The number or influence, possibly.


7 posted on 08/10/2007 7:26:55 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there are bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: nuconvert

So are you saying I’m lying?

People like you are funny.

I watched a video and told you what they say and then you, who haven’t seen it, think you know better.

Ok, whatever, if you say so.


8 posted on 08/10/2007 7:44:19 AM PDT by pacelvi (Islam is the acid that will dissolve the nation-state and led to the total breakdown of civilization)
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To: pacelvi

“So are you saying I’m lying?”

No. What I’m saying is, the filmakers made a film titled “VOICES FROM THE MUSLIM CENTER” and interviewed people who represent moderates to let the world know that not all muslims are terrorists. To say that they question whether they exist implies that they weren’t speaking with real people but figments of their imagination?

btw - I have seen most of the film and will watch the rest


9 posted on 08/10/2007 7:55:15 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there are bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: nuconvert

Thank you Captain Obvious. I know what the name of the film is.

BTW: I said PRODUCERS of the films.. not the Filmakers (the director, etc)

Subtle difference. And it doesn’t mean there’s a contradiction.

“Moderate Moslems” want to call themselves that.. fine so be it.

The Producer has doubts that Islam, the system, in the grand scheme things has any ability to be influenced by these people.. if it can’t be influenced then the moderates don’t really matter.

Too complex for you?


10 posted on 08/10/2007 7:58:54 AM PDT by pacelvi (Islam is the acid that will dissolve the nation-state and led to the total breakdown of civilization)
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To: nuconvert

WBBM 780 - Chicago’s #1 source for local news, traffic and weather

Posted: Friday, 10 August 2007 9:37AM

Wiretap Vote Worries Muslim Americans

Bernie Tafoya Reporting

CHICAGO (WBBM) - There’s criticism today from an American-Islamic group of the way a couple of Illinois Democrats voted in Congress last week on President Bush’s proposal to allow the federal government to more easily wiretap phone calls and e-mails without a judge’s warrant.

WBBM’s Bernie Tafoya has the story.

The two Illinois Democrats are 3rd District Congressman Dan Lipinski and 8th District Congresswoman Melissa Bean.

Ahmed Rehab, executive director of the Chicago chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, was surprised and disappointed with the Lipinski and Bean votes.

Rehab says he’s especially surprised and disappointed in Lipinski “who comes from district that has a lot of Arab and Muslim citizens who may be hurt by this policy being used overzealously.”

Dave McGuire of the Washington-based Center for Democracy and Technology says the Bush administration raised a real concern regarding intercepting foreign communications but that the legislation went too far.

He says some members of Congress may have believed they “had to vote for it since no other alternative was presented.” He says they may have figured it was better to vote for a “bad” anti-terrorism bill than for “no” anti-terrorism bill.

Ahmed Rehab says “Wiretapping I can understand. What I don’t understand is the warrantless”.

He says there’ll be a push in Congress next month to change the law.

Neither Cong. Lipinski nor Cong. Bean responded to requests for interviews.

Dave McGuire of CDT says the law “throws Americans living in U.S. open to the potential of being caught in investigative dragnet with no judicial oversight.”

http://www.wbbm780.com/pages/795272.php?contentType=4&contentId=786311


11 posted on 08/10/2007 8:05:52 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Lipinski is my rep.

I wrote him a letter about his Iraq vote in the spring here

http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312/congress.html

I”ll have to visit his office while he’s in town to tell him not to cave to CAIR


12 posted on 08/10/2007 8:17:41 AM PDT by pacelvi (Islam is the acid that will dissolve the nation-state and led to the total breakdown of civilization)
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To: pacelvi

You are the one who stated that they question whether they exist. Obviously, they DON’T question that. And that’s what I said. Whether you think they matter or not is another issue.

Frank Gafney, the co-executive producer stated himself, that one reason for making the film was to help influence muslims who don’t agree with the wahhabi influenced teachings at the mosques, so obviously they feel there’s a need there. I’m not arguing that.

You’re trying to weasle out of your original statement that the producers question whether they exist. Maybe you’d like to correct that statement?

btw - moderate muslims rarely refer to themselves as moderates. I believe that’s a term non-muslims made up.


13 posted on 08/10/2007 8:28:43 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there are bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: KeyLargo

CAIR should be shut down


14 posted on 08/10/2007 8:30:13 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there are bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: nuconvert

Bump.And thanks.


15 posted on 08/10/2007 9:10:41 AM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: nuconvert

Go away Liliputian


16 posted on 08/10/2007 9:11:01 AM PDT by pacelvi (Islam is the acid that will dissolve the nation-state and led to the total breakdown of civilization)
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To: pacelvi

“I recommend viewing this Q&A , it reveals a lot of information. Plus you’ll learn that even the Producers of the Film themselves have doubts that “moderate Moslems” so-called even exist.. “

“This “Liliputian” has finished watching the Q&A.

Never once did I hear doubts that they exist.

btw - Thanks for the link. I always enjoy listening to Kabbani.


17 posted on 08/10/2007 11:03:11 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there are bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: pacelvi

Hello from a fellow resident of Crook County.

Yes his dad, William Lipinski is one of the few old-time Chicago Dims left over from the old man Daley era. In 1968 he concurred with the Richard J. Daley policy ordering the police to “shoot to kill” if necessary during the 68 riots.

KL


18 posted on 08/10/2007 1:22:44 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: pacelvi

Attorney, reservist challenges “out of touch” Lipinski
(http://www.dailysouthtown.com/news/506112,111NWS7.article)

August 11, 2007

By David H. Montgomery Staff writer

A Chicago attorney is challenging Rep. Dan Lipinski in the Democratic primary for the 3rd Congressional District, saying that Lipinski is “out of touch” with local concerns.

James Capparelli is a private practice attorney and an active member of the U.S. Army Reserve, where he is a battalion commander.

In the Army, Capparelli was an Airborne Ranger and saw action in the 1989 invasion of Panama. He has spent time as a prosecutor in Will County and was the veterans rights deputy bureau chief for Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan.

The incumbent, Lipinski, was a political science professor in Tennessee before becoming a congressman.

Lipinski was chosen by the state Democratic Party to replace his father after the elder Lipinski pulled out of the race following the primary in 2004.

Capparelli argues that he is more connected to the concerns of everyday voters than Lipinski, citing his military service and long background in the district.

On the issues, Capparelli describes himself as “pro-life” and says that he is against gay marriage and civil unions. He said the “surge” in Iraq seems to be working, but that if the Iraqis do not take advantage of the surge to solve their problems, then the United States should look at pulling out.

Capparelli is vocally pro-union. He differs from Lipinski in his opposition to a recent bill expanding federal wiretapping powers. Lipinski voted for the controversial bill.

Palos Hills Mayor Gerald Bennett is also considering challenging Lipinski in the February 2008 primary.

David H. Montgomery may be reached at
dmontgomery@dailysouthtown.com
or (708) 633-5962.


19 posted on 08/11/2007 9:47:02 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

I’m not a Democrat of course, but i would help this guy in the primary.

He sounds italian.. my family is Italian and run a trucking company on the south side, i wonder if they know this guy.


20 posted on 08/11/2007 9:52:03 AM PDT by pacelvi (In general, Democrats are the only real reason to vote for Republicans. - Thomas Sowell)
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To: KeyLargo

oh nevermind

“Capparelli is vocally pro-union. He differs from Lipinski in his opposition to a recent bill expanding federal wiretapping powers. Lipinski voted for the controversial bill.”

What idiot would oppose the wiretapping law?


21 posted on 08/11/2007 9:59:41 AM PDT by pacelvi (In general, Democrats are the only real reason to vote for Republicans. - Thomas Sowell)
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To: 1riot1ranger; Action-America; Aggie Mama; Alkhin; Allegra; American72; antivenom; Antoninus II; ...

Houston PING, on PBS channel 8 right now


22 posted on 08/13/2007 8:03:16 PM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: nuconvert

Hmmm, saw this documentary and the following roundtable discussion mentioned above.

Mr. Jasser spoke out against Islamists in America (not sure if it was CAIR) and the guy standing up holding the koran saying “this should be the constitution of the United States”. There is a video edit after that point, the response by the member of CAIR who these comments were directed at was never shown. The comment by Mr. Jasser were left hanging (without even a fade out to make it clear that there is “something” edited); he was trying to get the guy from CAIR on record denouncing the Islamist domination view.


23 posted on 08/13/2007 9:18:30 PM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: nuconvert

And anytime the guy from CAIR got into a tough positition, the moderator brings up things like “Christian evangelicals” too.

The only defense of political Islam is to say “others do it”. Nazism wasn’t a religion but it was faith for the people of Germany.


24 posted on 08/13/2007 9:20:17 PM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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