Posted on 08/10/2007 2:17:53 PM PDT by MissEdie
In Washington state there is a man called Terapon Dang Adhahn. Some years ago he took in a 13 year old girl to look after her for a friend. This is how he looked after her:
Over the next 3 years he raped and sodomised her between 150 and 200 times. Sometimes the girl was tied up, and sometimes she was held at gunpoint. He told the girl that unless she had sex with him, she would never go home again. Whilst he had this girl living in his house, he grabbed another young girl off the street and subjected her to a day of rape and terror. The sexual assault was so violent that the poor girl had to have surgery to repair her genitals. Incredibly enough, the Liberals in Washington did not think this was serious enough to put this man away for life. Since he was released he has raped and murdered Zina Linnik (12) who was grabbed during a July 4th party this year and he has raped and murdered Andre'Anna Jackson (10) in 2005. He is also a suspect in the murders of Lenoria Jones (3), Michaela Welch (12) and Teekah Lewis (2). I don't know who is better off, the survivors or the dead. Anyone think he should never have been released?
In Alabama there is a preacher by the name of Jerry Wayne Love. He adopted 3 children. He raped and sodomised those children repeatedly. How much prison time do you think Preacher Love was sentenced to? NONE! Not a single, solitary day behind bars. Judge Karen Hall sentenced this abomination of a human being to 5 years probation and treatment.
In San Diego we have a respiratory therapist by the name of Wayne Albert Bleyle. He was convicted of molesting 5 disabled children in his care and taking pornographic pictures of others. He told police that he had molested at least half of the children he had treated over the last 10 years. Do you think he should ever see the light of day again?? But he will. He was given 45 years, but will probably get out in around 15 years.
In Florida we have Jason Shenfeld. In February he was charged with sex assaults on 2 women. He was released on bail. What does he do? He raped and murdered Amanda Buckley (17) and stuffed her in his closet for his father to find.
In Maryland we have a judge called Katherine Savage. She recently dropped all charges against Mahamu Kanneh. Mr. Kanneh had sexually assaulted relatives aged 7 and 18 months. Records show that when a social worker visited his address they found another sex offender by the name of Sehkou Massaquoi. Mr Massaquoi was on probation for sexually assaulting the same victim as Mr. Kanneh. I wonder if the victim feels like Liberals have let her down? It gets worse. Judge Savage wanted to release Mr. Kanneh, so she invented a reason: he had not received a speedy trial because the Court had not been able to get an interpreter for 3 years. All Lies. First of all, Mr Kanneh didn't need an interpreter because he attended both High School and Community College in the US. He conversed with investigators in English. The whole idea that he needed an interpreter was a charade because some Liberal wanted to let this guy out. Secondly, Mr Kanneh had waived his right to a speedy trial and had not set in motion any legal proceedings to claim this right. Lastly, on the day Judge Savage dropped the charges and released this scumbag there was an interpreter in the courtroom that very day who was sworn in and working. Judge Savage is a liar and a Liberal and wishes to endanger the citizens of Maryland.
Dr William Petit of Connecticut must be wondering if Liberals should be able to hold office ever again. A few weeks ago Dr. Petit woke up to find 2 scumbags in his house. They were; Joshua Komisarjevsky and Steve Hayes. Both of these men have long criminal records involving over 20 home invasions and burglaries. They had been paroled less than a year before. They proceeded to take Dr. Petit's daughters to separate rooms. Hayley Petit (17) was repeatedly raped through the night. Michaela Petit (12) was repeatedly raped through the night. Dr. Petit could probably hear every minute of it. His wife Jennifer Hawke Petit was raped through the night also. She was then forced to take one of these monsters to a bank to withdraw $15,000. When they returned home, the 2 girls were tied to a bed and when the house was set on fire, they died. Mrs Petit was strangled and killed. Dr. Petit was beaten to within an inch of his life. Although he survived, he must wondering if that was a good thing. Amazingly enough the authorities in Connecticut can't decide if they should go for the death penalty. CAN'T DECIDE!!!!
Earlier this week in New Jersey 3 students were told to kneel down behind an elementary school and were executed with a gunshot to the back of the head. New Jersey is so steeped in Liberal values, it can't even execute the scumbags that perpetrated this act.
Who is to blame for these outrages? Liberals and their values and attitudes towards crime and punishment. They favour the perpetrator over the victim. They want sex offenders on the street to feed on your children. They want criminals like those described above to eat and live on your tax payer dollars. It is Liberal legislators who pass lenient laws that allow lenient sentences for some of the worst offenders imaginable. They allow probation and parole for sex assaults against children. They allow a system to operate that makes sure that the criminals in this country get lenient sentences and don 't even serve all of that time.
Recently a very sobering article appeared that said the web service MySpace had deleted 29,000 registered sex offenders from its service. They are now out there stalking your children the old fashioned way. If Liberals get into the White House in 2008 it will only get worse. They love criminals. They will release more and more of these predators and your children will become less and less safe.
Offenders like these should never get bail. Offenders like these should never be able to be put on probation or ever be paroled. But truly, they should all be dead. If Liberals did not love criminals so much, the following people would still be alive today:
Amanda Buckley Jennifer Hawke Petit Hayley Petit Michaela Petit Zina Linnik Andre'Anna Jackson Lenoria Jones Michaela Welch Teekah Jones
RIP: Killed by Liberals and their policies.
There are many thousands more, and many thousands more to come if we do not keep Liberals out of office.
It is their intention to ruin this country. Let some of these guys have access to their children and see how they feel. Never mind, I wouldn’t even do that to their kids.
Neither would I, but with the liberal mindset being as screwed up as it is I’m sure they would find some way to blame their own child.
Excellent summing up. If they can’t decide to go for the death penalty in the Connecticut case, I would like to know what DOES comprise a capital case in that state.
This whole country is broke thanks to the politians and judges.I don’t think it will get better only worst,until we are a third world hellhole,which the inner cities are pretty much there already!!
“Yes, but with a rope around one ankle...and said rope attached to my truck. I’m a slow driver.”
And I’ll take the other ankel with a rope around it and attach it to my truck. we’ll head in opposite directions... slowly... very slowly...
In cases such as Kanneh, I believe that court cases can be simplified if we legally made English the official language and stipulated that people who do not speak English must provide their own translators in both civil and legal matters.
They elevate the basest elements of society and condemn what little there is of goodness and decency. I still can’t figure this one out-are they just stupid, or hell-bent on destroying America? I can’t understand why they want to destroy America. Can someone please explain this to me? Does anyone know? My only explanation for this ever-increasing insanity is the presence of the anti-christ. His spirit is everywhere now. God help us.
You are right about the Third World hell hole. We already have islands of Third World hell holes going here: Miami, parts of Michigan, all of Southern California, Oakland, parts of Illinois, Virgina and Maryland, a great deal of Texas, most of New Mexico, half of Arizona, parts of Colorado, just to identify the ones I have personal knowlege of. Every city in our country now has miniature or not so small Third World hell hole in its midst or attached. Thing is, I don’t remember ever voting for someone who said they were going to allow our country to be over-run by Third World hell hole colonizers, and I don’t remember ever voting to change the total nature of the community I live in. Do you?
Well in the Newark, NJ case since he is an illegal alien from Peru we will probably have to find out if Peru allows the death penalty! (sarc)
No sedation Please. Once these transplant treasures have been harvested, oops I forgot bone marrow, the person can be released on their own recognisence. Of course, they will now look like the remainder of you pickup punisment but good folks can benefit from those harvest hunks!
Just before the time America reaches this point there will be a civil war the likes of which the nation has never seen. That's what the liberals and DemonRATS are pushing America into.
In leftist minds this is perfectly normal behavior and, before long, they’ll be introducing legislation to ensure that people who participate in this alternative lifestyle cannot be discriminated against. After that, there will be affirmative action for sexual predators. It will happen, sad but true.
This is the liberals utopia! 40 years of failed policies that are inflicting pain on the very people paying thier salaries. I say out with all of them on election day!! What do you say! Lets start taking our country back! The death penalty in most states is a joke, thier appeasing us by keeping it on the books but they will NOT us it! Lets use it! We want quick justice! They talk of universal health care, they robbed medicare, medicaid and social security now they need another cash cow to steal from? I’m fed up with this nonsense, and come election day I will let my vote be heard, how about you? “Remember we the people” If thiers a newspaper, tv program, movie or anything that is not of your liking use the power we have as Americans, boycott thier sponsors. shut them down. There are many ways to let your voice be heard US IT!
I have been using this tagline for many years and it still means what it did 230 years ago.
I’ve practiced law for a lot of years, handling probably thousands of criminal cases, and I’ve never once run into a trial level judge that was some bleeding heart liberal who wants to let all the serious criminals go. Trial level judges tend to nothing more than prosecutors in black robes. They want everyone convicted and punished. The ones I’m always running into tend to rule in the prosecutor’s favor anytime they can get away with doing it. If they can figure out a way to rule against a criminal defendant without doing it in such a way likely to get them overturned on appeal, they’ll do it. They’ll be very careful about how they make their rulings so they don’t leave openings for an appeal, but they’ll rule against people accused of crimes every chance they get. Every once in a while they’re going to have to make a decision that will be unpopular, maybe even one that lets a bad criminal off, but in real life they aren’t likely to do that unless they think they have no choice in the matter. Then in the rare occasion when they have to do that some morons who don’t know thing one about what happened in the case are going to be screaming about what a “liberal” the judge is even if the judge is the most conservative Republican in town.
“They elevate the basest elements of society and condemn what little there is of goodness and decency.”
Of course they do. They former is their voting base and the latter is everything they despise.
if the lib/dems and their lib/dem judges had children that were brutalized and sexually abused this badly.....
the lib/dems and their lib/dem judges would then be called republicans and want the death penalty for these animals!!!!
It’s all so tragic. Another poster predicted civil war. It’s bound to happen.
I remember Ellie Nessler and thinking - “yep, I’d have done the same thing.” Nessler was wrong, yes, but in California, I’m sick over light sentences and freed criminals who should never see a day without bars in front of them.
I think how Polly Klaas would be alive. And even scarier, I actually heard an idiot who saw some A&E Special on “the Manson Women” voice the opinion that Susan Atkins, Leslie Van Houten and Patricia Krenwinkle should be paroled.
Disgusting.
Absofreakingloutely. This isnt the first time she let a person go for such ridiculous reasons.
Alleged Child Molester Freed Because No Translator Could Be Found
Accused Child Rapist Freed for Lack of Translator Speaks English After All?
I’ve never once run into a trial level judge that was some bleeding heart liberal who wants to let all the serious criminals go. Trial level judges tend to nothing more than prosecutors in black robes. They want everyone convicted and punished.
Including Katherine Savage?
This is also why I am so against abortion. I am also afraid of the next step down the hill: euthanasia, assisted suicide, terminating already born children who are less than perfect.
Where will these two roads lead? The acceptance of rape and murder of children as an alternative lifestyle.
One does not have to be a Democrat to be a liberal. One can be an independent, and even a Registered Republican, and still be a flaming liberal.
There are a lot of immigrants and refugees here but I don't quite know where any of those third-world hellholes are.
Well, I’m glad you never represented me!! Firstly, this guy didn’t want to plead guilty, so the argument about the case being lost on the docket is ridiculous. Second, he had waived his right to a speedy trial earlier in the process and the judge re-introduced it as a reason to let him out, without even his attorney raising it as an issue. His own attorney was stunned by this development.Third, it was no sweetheart deal. The prosecutor is appealing the decision.
If you think that all judges want the criminal in jail, then you must not have seen the cases Bill O’Reilly has been exposing in Vermont where child rapists are routinely given non-custodial sentences. Your real name isn’t Savage is it???
You linked me to a couple of articles about the same case? Were you trying to show me other instances of crazy conduct by this judge?
As for cases Bill O’Reilly has been talking about, I don’t know anything about those. I don’t watch his show, haven’t in years. I have heard of judges doing some crazy things. Things work differently in different jurisdictions, but generally in cases resolved by plea, judges tend to give the sentences agreed on by the parties. If the judge is sentencing someone after a trial, he’s usually going to give the sentence recommended by the jury, if juries do the sentencing in in his jurisdiction, or he fixes the sentence, it’s usually going to be what his jurisdiction’s sentencing grid calls for. Where judges have wide discretion in sentencing after a trial, most are not going to give out super light sentences for particularly horrible crimes. If they do much of that they probably won’t last long as judges, especially in jurisdictions like mine where trial judges are elected officials. Judges probably are more hardcore on average down south where I live. They don’t tend to get reelected if they don’t come across as really tough on crime. I don’t even think trial judges in Vermont are elected. I think they are appointed for a six year term and then they need a majority vote from the general assembly every six years after that to stay in office. If voters there do not like a judge they need to pressure their general assembly to not retain him when his term expires.
I just wanted to include the outcome. What happened to that suspect afterwards.
There are some states that are getting a reputation for being a haven for child molesters. Washington is one and Vermont is another.
Judge Savage did cite speedy trial as a reason but lied about what went on. They had used no fewer than 4 interpreters on this case, one of whom was sworn in and working in the Court that very day. One did quit because the circumstances of the case were so disturbing. A local news station found an interpreter in less than a day.
Bottom line is that this judge should have over-ruled what the psychiatrist had said, namely that he needed an interpreter in the first place. Given his education background in the US, all completed in English, and the fact that he conversed with detectives in English very well. The ruse about the interpreter was just that, a ruse, and the judge let it happen, exposing more children to the possibility of attack by this monster.
The public should not have to wait for elections, there should be a mechanism to oust judges for this kind of ruling. Better yet if the person released goes on to kill, they should be put in jail too.
You want some hell holes? Check out Chirliagua in Alexandria. Check out Columbia Pike in Arlington. Check out Manassas. Route 1 anywhere south of Alexandria is pretty much hideous, an endless continuation of strip malls and broken down “motels”. None so blind as those who will not see.
And there's not much of it either.
America's richest county really isn't like Queens or Brooklyn, Guarantee dat!
Best you don't live there. Still, for cheap apartments it's better than living in a sampan ~ which would be the alternative to the way it's done now.
"In declining states the leadership intuitively choses the most harmful course of action"-The same historian.
Comment: Takes yer pick.
1. Yes, Judge Savage is a Democrat, and known to be a bleeding heart liberal Democrat. It isn’t exactly a secret around here. Appointed by Glendenning. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but.... 2. The guy had waived his right to a speedy trial. The defense lawyer requested all of the postponements. 3. There was a translator in court and sworn in the day she let him go. 4. Boo hoo about judges and massive caseloads, if I have to choose sides, I’ll side with the seven-year-old rape victim, who, if anyone should be given the benefit of the doubt, it is she. Judge screwed up. Never thought this case would see the light of day, and now judge is in deep doo-doo. She will be lucky to keep her place on the bench, as the legislature is baying for her removal. Sorry the concept of justice for an orphaned child rape victim bugs you.
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Chirliagua is more than one of those horrible apartment complexes in Arlandria, it is what the natives call the entire area now. They have renamed it, rejecting the gringo place name. And it hasn’t flooded since the massive Four Mile Run drainage project was completed in the 80s. You must not go to the Birchmere all that often. I was unaware that Salvadoran illegal immigrants live in sampans elsewhere. Did I mention that the Chirliagua area hell hole has the highest crime rate in the city?
Whatever the locals want to call it, they are free to do that. Now the rooftops haven't been washed over since the 1980s but they've had to bring out the sandbags more than once.
Having worked at the intersection of US 1 and the Beltway I'm pretty familiar with the Southernmost section of what you consider to be a problem area.
Look, even the undocumented tourists in Northern Virginia tend to be more well to do than anywhere else in the country. It's that Russian mob influence on them ~ keeps 'em straight (if you know what I mean).
I agree that liberalism as an ideology and political value tends to be lenient on crime, but it is not a value inherent to the legal profession. This inclination stems from the progressive reform movement of the early 1900’s that infected the American justice system with notions of “sociologicl jurisprudence,” and an emphasis on “rehabilitation” as opposed to punishment etc. Our legal establishment did not have to accept this tripe, but it has, much to the benefit of its more visible practitioners such as John Edwards, Johnny Cochran and some of the the judges cited in the original post. Most people I know do not like trial lawyers either professionally or personally, but I certainly applaud you for coming into a forum where you knew beforehand that you would not receive too many supporting or encouraging comments.
Children are the last frontier in the sexual revolution. Democrat voter groups demand this "right" and the liberals and elected rats, including rat judges, will do what they have to to make it happen.
We’ll, the truth of the matter is that we are probably a lot tougher on crime today than we ever were in the last century. We put more people in prison than ever whether you look at the total number or the per capita number. We hit an all time record in 1979 and since then our per capita incarceration rate has gone up to a rate several times higher than it ever was prior to 1979. We now have the highest incarceration rate of any country in the world and we put a lot more people in prison than any other country in the world. We have about 5% of the world’s population, yet about 25% of the people behind bars in this world are behind bars right here in the land of the free. I think this is one of those instances where perceptions do not match reality.
Our justice system is far from perfect. None are perfect. Every once in a while some really crazy things are going to happen in our system, like this Kanneh fellow walking. That was really a fluke case though. I’ve never seen a case where they had so much difficulty finding an interpreter, and I’ve seen cases where they’ve had to come up with interpreters to interpret some pretty darned obscure languages. They always handle it. I’ve never seen a case go more than two years over the deadline because they couldn’t find an interpreter. I’ve never seen one get dismissed for a speedy trial violation because of difficulty finding some who could interpret. It’s one of those fluke crazy things that will happen once in a blue moon somewhere and when it does happen it’s likely to make national news and get a lot of people upset.
In real life almost everyone who gets charged with a crime gets convicted and punished. Sometimes someone is going to “get off on a technicality,” but that’s a rare occurrence. For every motion to suppress evidence that gets granted resulting in a dismissal of charges, there may have been a couple of hundred more filed that went nowhere. The only one that makes the news will be the one that got granted resulting in someone lucking out and getting their charges dropped. People read about that this happening two or three times, and they start to think that is is happening left and right, when in fact there may well have been hundreds of similar cases with similar charges where motions to suppress were denied or not filed in the first place where the defendants ended up doing serious time.
We live in an age where people don’t even want to let their kids out to play because everyone thinks there are bad guys around every corner. The funny thing is though that if you look at crime statistics, there was may very well have been more crime when you were a child running around all over the place than there is today. I know crime rates were higher when I was a kid than they are today, at least that’s what the government statistics say. Oh and another one, people think meth use is on the rise, but look at the national drug statistics and meth use has actually been going down over the last few years. And you talk about prisons trying to rehabilitate people, that’s pretty much a dead notion these days. Yes we do have more drug treatment programs than we did before, but overall the pen is a place to send people to punish them and keep them away from the rest of us for a while. Our department of corrections in my state doesn’t care much at all about trying to rehabilitate people. Their main concern is freeing up enough bed space to be able to house all the newly convicted people we are sending down.
Anyway, the only reason I posted anything in this thread is because I get so frustrated that people seem to really have no clue what is really going on with criminal justice and the system in general these days. They’ve got a lot of notions, a lot of opinions, few of which are actually based in reality.
“that people seem to really have no clue what is really going on with criminal justice and the system in general these days. They’ve got a lot of notions, a lot of opinions, few of which are actually based in reality.”
I think that for a court officer to assume that people do not know what goes on the criminal justice system is as least as presumptuous as me saying that because I am a college teacher, people have no clue as to what goes on in education. Folks with whom I may discuss the status of American higher education generally are on target with respect to my “insiders” knowledge of their perspectives, so I have to think people may be perhaps more informed about our justice system than you might think. I would also say that my earlier point had nothing to do with any past incidence of criminal behavior in American society; I know that crime was more prevelent (and less punished) in times past. Instead, I was simply pointing out that approaches to Consitutional interpretation that rely on some rather dubious “doctrines” of judicial review do not help in responding to what most Americans expect from their justice system in dealing with society’s most vicious members.
You are right go back 40 years and that is when the public school system went to shit. I wish someone out there would make a graph to show how bad it has become.
But look, I don’t expect the average person to be an expert on the criminal justice system. Most people never have any contact with it, and those that do have contact with it usually only have minimal exposure. That’s okay. My frustration is with all the nonsense, the pontificating and righteous indignation about the system coming from people who really do not know what they are talking about. A lot of the popular perceptions about the criminal justice system are just not based in reality, and unfortunately I don’t see that changing anytime soon. So, I’ll educate folks a little when I can, and occasionally have my little rant about it like I’m having now just to get it off my chest.
I think that your graph would reveal that our public school systems began their decline when the federal government became involved, and the downward trends can be directly correlated to ever-increasing federal involvement. The colleges of education have had a lot to do with it, too. Read up on the “whole language” method of teaching kids to read, which came out of some university education school and has blighted the future of millions of children.
One doesn’t have to be a lawyer to know that the criminal justice system is screwed up. Not a week goes by now that we don’t hear a headline that talks about a convicted sex offender has murdered, kidnapped or raped someone. If the criminal jusrice system has not figured it out that we should simply kill them all then it is in serious troble.
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