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How Did Elvis Get Turned Into a Racist?
The New York Times ^ | 8/11/07 | PETER GURALNICK

Posted on 08/10/2007 10:25:20 PM PDT by LdSentinal

ONE of the songs Elvis Presley liked to perform in the ’70s was Joe South’s “Walk a Mile in My Shoes,” its message clearly spelled out in the title.

Sometimes he would preface it with the 1951 Hank Williams recitation “Men With Broken Hearts,” which may well have been South’s original inspiration. “You’ve never walked in that man’s shoes/Or saw things through his eyes/Or stood and watched with helpless hands/While the heart inside you dies.” For Elvis these two songs were as much about social justice as empathy and understanding: “Help your brother along the road,” the Hank Williams number concluded, “No matter where you start/For the God that made you made them, too/These men with broken hearts.”

In Elvis’s case, this simple lesson was not just a matter of paying lip service to an abstract principle.

It was what he believed, it was what his music had stood for from the start: the breakdown of barriers, both musical and racial. This is not, unfortunately, how it is always perceived 30 years after his death, the anniversary of which is on Thursday. When the singer Mary J. Blige expressed her reservations about performing one of his signature songs, she only gave voice to a view common in the African-American community. “I prayed about it,” she said, “because I know Elvis was a racist.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: africanamericans; elvis; liberals; music; nashville

1 posted on 08/10/2007 10:25:25 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal
because I know Elvis was a racist.

How does she know that?

Why would a "racist" , be influenced so much by music from the black community?

2 posted on 08/10/2007 10:34:44 PM PDT by guinnessman
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To: LdSentinal

She must be a member of Hussein B Obama’s church.


3 posted on 08/10/2007 10:42:10 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: guinnessman
Elvis included Dixie in “An American Medley.” That’s probably reason enough fir the real kookburgers to decide Elvis included it because he was a racist.
4 posted on 08/10/2007 10:42:49 PM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: ASA Vet
It was all because of some stupid rumor that Elvis declared “the only thing Negroes can do for me is buy my records and shine my shoes" either at a personal appearance in Boston or on Edward R. Murrow’s “Person to Person” TV show. The fact that he had never been on Murrow's program or appeared in Boston didn't stop the sheep from believing it.
5 posted on 08/10/2007 10:47:27 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo (There are four types of homicide: felonious, accidental, justifiable, and praiseworthy)
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To: LdSentinal

Mary Blige could not be more wrong. The NYT, of course, gets it wrong.

One of his backup groups, “The Sweet Inspirations”, was black. They appeared with him at concerts on his recordings etc. for years.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22sweet+inspirations%22+elvis+&btnG=Google+Search


6 posted on 08/10/2007 10:49:15 PM PDT by Let's Roll (As usual, following a shooting spree, libs want to take guns away from those who DIDN'T do it.)
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To: LdSentinal
the singer Mary J. Blige Bilge. Everyone who is not a landlubber knows what "bilge" is.
7 posted on 08/10/2007 10:53:42 PM PDT by reg45
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To: LdSentinal

I will be glad when the world stops being defined around who is or is not or was never or has never been a GD racist.

it is asinine....it cripples our resolve to tackle the real threats to our way of life

the redress for racial wrongs which have been with us for all of recorded history is in my opinion more damaging than the evil they are in responce to

folks today don’t know what real white racism is...know why?

cause there is so damned little

the big racists today are yesterday’s victims rolling in high cotton ignoring their own collapse and selling racist wolf tickets as fast as they can print them

and sillyassed soft stupid (SSS) white fools are buyng it like a cure for cancer

by today’s standards everyone is racist....i know I sure must be....

but you know what?

frankly my dear I don’t give a damn

i feel emancipated ....jubilee!


8 posted on 08/10/2007 11:01:57 PM PDT by wardaddy (Is it hot today or just me?)
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To: LdSentinal
Yeah, Elvis the racist. He only built Graceland in the middle of a negro ghetto rather than a high tone neighborhood, his song “In the ghetto” is real racist, bringing the plight of the inner city into the light before many of his black contemporaries, and his song, “If I can dream” is real racist.

(words & music by brown)
There must be lights burning brighter somewhere
Got to be birds flying higher in a sky more blue
If I can dream of a better land
Where all my brothers walk hand in hand
Tell me why, oh why, oh why cant my dream come true

There must be peace and understanding sometime
Strong winds of promise that will blow away
All the doubt and fear
If I can dream of a warmer sun
Where hope keeps shining on everyone
Tell me why, oh why, oh why wont that sun appear

Were lost in a cloud
With too much rain
Were trapped in a world
Thats troubled with pain
But as long as a man
Has the strength to dream
He can redeem his soul and fly

Deep in my heart there's a trembling question
Still I am sure that the answer gonna come somehow
Out there in the dark, there's a beckoning candle
And while I can think, while I can talk
While I can stand, while I can walk
While I can dream, please let my dream
Come true, right now
Let it come true right now
Oh yeah

It seems there are more black folk, (the minority) who are racist than in the majority, (White folk). Another great example of THE TYRANNY of the minority. I guess people of color are just like the rest of the folk, they hate that which masters them. (Uncle Sam’s Plantation)

Get over it and assimilate in the greatest, freest nation on earth already!

‘Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t and American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag.’ Theodore Roosevelt

9 posted on 08/10/2007 11:20:33 PM PDT by Binstence (Live Freep or Die)
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To: LdSentinal

Public Enemy branded Elvis a racist 20 years ago and thus it is “truth” from the streets, yo.


10 posted on 08/10/2007 11:23:31 PM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: weegee

I’m guessing that’s exactly where Mary J. Blige got the idea.

B.B. King and other black musicians who actually knew Elvis from the start of his career to its end have said just the opposite about him... Mary needs to stop the hateration.


11 posted on 08/10/2007 11:30:24 PM PDT by mjolnir ("All great change in America begins at the dinner table.")
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To: LdSentinal
In the Ghetto lyrics (scroll down)
12 posted on 08/10/2007 11:34:48 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: LdSentinal

One glaring omission from the NY Times was about Elvis’s devout Christianity (yes, he fell short sometimes), and his objection to being called “The King” was quite public when some fans screamed it at him during a concert and he angrily snapped and said, “No. Christ is the King.”

As for this racist crap, these morons that repeat that can stick it where the sun don’t shine.


13 posted on 08/11/2007 12:01:53 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Let's Roll
Mary Blige could not be more wrong. The NYT, of course, gets it wrong.

Let's Roll, are you literate? I being sincere, because I can't understand how anybody who can understand the English language, and who read the article could possibly understand it as poorly as you seem to have.

The article argues that Elvis wasn't a racist, despite popular perceptions in some quarters. I find it hard to believe that anybody who was able to read the article missed that.

Moreover (and to be honest, figuring this out may require somewhat more sophisticated reasoning abilities) this isn't a Times article -- it's an Op/Ed piece submitted by a music historian unaffiliated with the Times.

14 posted on 08/11/2007 12:08:13 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: weegee

It seems to me that he became a racial suspect because of the idea that he “stole” black music. I remember an SNL bit by A. Whitney Brown promulgating the notion. He started talking about “a talented young man etc.” and it sounded like he was describing Elvis, but then he said, “but at about the same time Elvis Presley released etc.” and so of course the “talented young man” was a black artist unfairly displaced by Elvis. The audience didn’t like it.


15 posted on 08/11/2007 12:25:47 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: ASA Vet
Elvis included Dixie in “An American Medley.” That’s probably reason enough fir the real kookburgers to decide Elvis included it because he was a racist.

Up until about 20 years ago it was quite common for both Dixie and Battle Hymn of the Republic to be played or sung at conventions as a way of including both northern and southern participants. It was a sort of Civil War reconciliation. That's probably why Elvis included both songs in the medley, which at one point in his career also featured backup vocals by black women singers.

16 posted on 08/11/2007 12:27:51 AM PDT by TheMole
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To: LdSentinal

Clearly, Mary J. Bilge is a racist.
She will certainly never see a dime of my money.


17 posted on 08/11/2007 12:29:57 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: reg45

It doesen’t have anything to do with “Bile” does it?


18 posted on 08/11/2007 12:30:58 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: LdSentinal

A rehearsal scene from Elvis: That's The Way it Is.

19 posted on 08/11/2007 12:49:58 AM PDT by TheMole
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To: LdSentinal

The Left loves anachronism when it suits their purposes.

For someone born in Tupelo, Mississippi in 1935, Elvis was remarkably un-racist. But, because he didn’t speak and act at all times like an enlightened 21st century liberal uttering politically correct pieties at all times, he’s a “racist.”

And you’d think that someone, somewhere, would mention that Whitney Houston grew up in luxury because of Elvis.


20 posted on 08/11/2007 12:52:55 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: Let's Roll

As usual, Mary Blige, and others like her have no idea what they are talking about. They just robot like speak “the message” of racism.


21 posted on 08/11/2007 3:07:34 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: Binstence
FWIW, Elvis didn't build Graceland but bought it from a Memphis doctor IIRC. The neighborhood at the time was a very nice suburb; Memphis' sprawl caused what you see today.

Otherwise, your comments are spot on!
22 posted on 08/11/2007 3:54:13 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Big dog, big dog, bow-wow-wow! We'll crush crime, now, now, now!)
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To: LdSentinal
A nobody singer attacks the king for some attention; while getting to play the victim. What a loser.
23 posted on 08/11/2007 3:59:26 AM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: denydenydeny

“But, because he didn’t speak and act at all times like an enlightened 21st century liberal... “

Yeah, Liberace had that bit. Of course, at the time, everyone thought he was joking.


24 posted on 08/11/2007 4:03:51 AM PDT by TN4Liberty (A liberal is someone who believes Scooter Libby should be in jail and Bill Clinton should not.)
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To: LdSentinal

Claim: Elvis Presley once said, “The only thing Negroes can do for me is buy my records and shine my shoes.”

Status: False

http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/presley1.asp


25 posted on 08/11/2007 4:13:05 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: LdSentinal

“He wasn’t my king”

“For black people, Elvis, more than any other performer, epitomises the theft of their music and dance”

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/elvis/story/0,,774842,00.html

“Elvis Presley is overrated”

“I remember silently cheering the Sex Pistols’ Johnny Rotten when he responded to news of Presley’s death with the words, ‘’Good riddance to bad rubbish.’’

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Music/08/08/ew.hot.elvis/index.html

I know Presley was controversial, but there is a lot of downright hatred for him out there. Sheesh.


26 posted on 08/11/2007 4:19:41 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: guinnessman

in psychology there’e the term “projection”.

some blacks project that elvis was racist because he stole, they say, black music and became fabulously popular and successful while they were less so.

in a word, jealousy.


27 posted on 08/11/2007 4:36:37 AM PDT by ken21 (28 yrs + 2 families = banana republic junta. si.)
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To: LdSentinal

Who would believe any one with a name like PETER GURALNICK writing about things southern. The New York Times commenting on Hank Williams? It’s a joke.


28 posted on 08/11/2007 4:48:07 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Happiness is a down sleeping bag)
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To: LdSentinal

Michael Jackson’s ex father in law racist? I don’t think so.


29 posted on 08/11/2007 4:57:01 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: LdSentinal

Ms. BILGE, you are a racist..........................


30 posted on 08/11/2007 5:09:48 AM PDT by Red Badger (All I know about Minnesota, I learned from Garrison Keilor.............)
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To: LdSentinal

Quick bet; If somebody asked Mary Blige which party Abraham Lincoln belonged to, her first answer would be “Democrat”.


31 posted on 08/11/2007 5:13:00 AM PDT by Bernard (The Fairness Doctrine should be applied to people who follow the rules to come to America legally)
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To: guinnessman
Maybe she listens to Public Enemy.
32 posted on 08/11/2007 5:17:07 AM PDT by Hoodat ("I get tired of people that are holier than thou because they've been pro-life longer than I have.")
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To: LdSentinal; All

In his movie, “Girls, Girls, Girls”, Elvis is a Navy “E-O-D” man. Even if he is a squid, he is still EOD. What man can do any wrong after that.


33 posted on 08/11/2007 5:19:31 AM PDT by U S Army EOD (Say Cheese.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Hey - I’m not registering with the NYT to read the article. As usual, the NYT did their intended damage with the headline and the lead. Even if what you say is true, I’m still glad to have countered the ‘headline’ which is all most people will see.

I realize that may take some fairly sophisticated reasoning on your part.

And is “I being sincere, because I can’t understand” what you call literate?


34 posted on 08/11/2007 7:04:56 AM PDT by Let's Roll (As usual, following a shooting spree, libs want to take guns away from those who DIDN'T do it.)
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To: bert

Mr. Guralnick’s two book series on Elvis is probably the best biography out there. I’m a Memphis native and professional musician that cut my teeth there and he’s well respected along with Robert Gordon as someone who does it right. I’m not calling you out but just saying that among my peers he’s considered good, accurate and fair.


35 posted on 08/11/2007 7:10:50 AM PDT by memphibian
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To: Hoodat
If the lyrics link in post #32 are insufficient, here is a link to a YouTube clip of the live Fight the Power" music video, complete with clips of Elvis and John Wayne. This is the 7 minute uncensored version, and there is a cheer from the crowd when Elvis and Wayne are mentioned.
36 posted on 08/11/2007 9:42:59 AM PDT by berserker
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To: LdSentinal
How Did Elvis Get Turned Into a Racist?

A year in NYC or a subscription to the NYT would do it to anyone.

37 posted on 08/11/2007 9:48:19 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Hate me, I'm white.)
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To: LdSentinal
This is not, unfortunately, how it is always perceived 30 years after his death, the anniversary of which is on Thursday.

Shouldn't the "paper of record" make that 30 years after his alleged death?

38 posted on 08/11/2007 9:48:56 AM PDT by Darth Republican (Soon we must all face the choice between what is right and what is easy.)
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To: LdSentinal

I didn’t realize he had been made into a racist.
Also, I’m sick and tired of all of these ludicrous “racism” charges.


39 posted on 08/11/2007 9:59:57 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: sportutegrl

Well, I don’t think E would’ve approved of Lisa Marie marrying a strange White woman with a missing nose.


40 posted on 08/11/2007 3:03:21 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: fieldmarshaldj
...his objection to being called “The King” was quite public when some fans screamed it at him during a concert and he angrily snapped and said, “No. Christ is the King.”

I Remember that, and it is what I Love about him: he Loved our Lord.

41 posted on 08/11/2007 6:13:13 PM PDT by Kitty Mittens (To God Be All Excellent Praise!!)
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To: Let's Roll
Hey - I’m not registering with the NYT to read the article.

Then maybe you should refrain from commenting on it. Just a hint.

Even if what you say is true, I’m still glad to have countered the ‘headline’ which is all most people will see.

The only people who would decide they know what an article is about without first reading it are idiots, and lazy idiots at that.

And is “I being sincere, because I can’t understand” what you call literate?

You found a sentence with a typographical error. I don't think typos impugn my literacy, just my typing abilities.

42 posted on 08/12/2007 8:02:38 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: eyedigress
Bilge water (Naut.), water which collects in the bilge or bottom of a ship or other vessel. It is often allowed to remain till it becomes very offensive.

Sometimes bilge water is simply called "bilge". If someone says that what you say is "bilge", he means that it is fit only to be pumped over the side and discarded - ie. it is of no value whatsoever.

43 posted on 08/12/2007 10:56:54 AM PDT by reg45
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To: LdSentinal

Many, if not most, blacks consider ANY white person “racist”, which says more about the racism of blacks.


44 posted on 08/12/2007 11:08:07 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: guinnessman
How does she know that?

Because Elvis was white and Bilge is black.

That means Elvis was a racist. Duh.

45 posted on 08/12/2007 11:10:16 AM PDT by humblegunner (Word up!)
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To: LdSentinal

I read the book, “Elvis: What Happened?” that was published mere months before Presley’s death in 1977. This book was a tell-all on Presley by those who knew him best: His Memphis Mafia, including his bodyguard who went by the name of “Red.” (Red also appeared in a few movies with Presley, often times as THE guy Presley was punching out.)

Anyway, for whatever reason, Presley’s Posse cut loose with this book (while Elvis was still alive, mind you) that lit up Presley like nothing before or since. They slammed “The King” on his (all alleged) drug use, numerous affairs, dietary problems, nasty temper - everything. They painted him as a pathetic recluse who was so drug addled and paranoid that he ended up not trusting anyone or anything.

Yet, throughout and from the best I can recall, the authors said Elvis Presley did not have a racist bone in his body.

Mary Jerk Bilge can say a lot of things about Presley, but a racist he was not.


46 posted on 08/12/2007 11:19:33 AM PDT by DangerDanger ("Libertarianism is the Heart and Soul of Conservatism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: chessplayer
the theft of their music and dance

Unbelievably ignorant beliefs -- unless you believe Africans invented the chromatic scale and there were wood floors and tap shoes in the Dark Continent.


47 posted on 08/12/2007 11:28:39 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: Let's Roll

Peter Guralnick is Elvis’ best biographer and is certainly not in the habit of calling him racist.


48 posted on 08/16/2007 9:50:14 AM PDT by Borges
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