Posted on 08/11/2007 3:01:45 PM PDT by george76
Sen. Barack Obama said Thursday he wanted to tap into the "core decency" of Americans to fight discrimination against gays and lesbians, and argued that civil unions for same-sex couples wouldn't be a "lesser thing" than marriage.
At a televised forum focusing on gay rights, the Illinois senator was asked to explain how civil unions for same-sex couples could be the equivalent of marriage. He said, "As I've proposed it, it wouldn't be a lesser thing, from my perspective.
Obama belongs to the United Church of Christ, which supports gay marriage, but Obama has yet to go that far.
All of the Democratic candidates support a federal ban on anti-gay job discrimination, want to repeal the "don't ask, don't tell" policy barring gays from serving openly in the military and support civil unions that would extend marriage-like rights to same-sex couples.
A majority of Americans oppose nationwide recognition of same-sex marriage and only two of the Democrats support it — Alaska Sen. Mike Gravel and Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio,
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I thought he proposed they form unions... you know like the real labour unions... only gay.
I don’t know Obama, that Liberia effort didn’t turn out so well. Why should we try it again for the homosexuals?
Oh, civil unions, nevermind...
Has there been a single run for office by the Democrats since they lost on the civil rights issues during the 40s & 50s, that didn’t include race or gender baiting?
Obama likes to act as if he’s a new breed. Nah, he’s just a throwback to the politics of the past.
“Sen. Barack Obama said Thursday he wanted to tap into the “core decency” of Americans to fight discrimination against gays and lesbians, and argued that civil unions for same-sex couples wouldn’t be a “lesser thing” than marriage. “
Come on Obama. Just say it. You either support and reject gay marriage. How can you lead this country if you can’t even say whether you are for or against gay marriage.
This “civil union” crap is the new “pro-choice” verbiage. If you are pro-choice then you are for gays getting married since it is their choice.
And if an idiot like me can figure this out, why couldn’t the panelists at the gay debate get a straight answer from the candidates?
Good news! Keep pandering to the homos Dims, so real voters can wake up and see who you really are.
Then why not stop the Orwellian doublespeak and attempts at Slick Willese triangulation and just endorse gay marriage?
I think the gays have been had — the democrats only had that debate so they could tell Americans:
“See, I don’t support gay marriage, only civil unions! Heck, gays are really angry at me!”
Will the gay mantra for obama soon become “Queers for Ears”?
If Obama wishes to be married to a bunch of gays, let him.
“...the “core decency” of Americans...”
sooooo, obama.......you are conflicted about core decency?
you think that core decency is extra-special rights for people who already have every single right as every other human being in America?
are you THAT stupid, obama?.......
Do you read “My Two Dads” to your own kids as bedtime stories?
Do you tell your own kids that homosexuality is the equivalent of skin color as the fags played it in the don’t ask don’t tell matter?
what if anything have you discussed with your own kids about this? Have you pointed out the “decency” that might form the basis for the homosexual special-rights campaign they are running in our public schools?
or do you have a faggot or two in your very own closet?
The answer lies withing the question :)
Gays can get married all they want. I just see no reason whatsoever for the state to recognize that marriage.
If the state gives benefits for participating in a particularly activity, it has a goal in mind. Homosexuals do no produce new generations of tax payers. They tend to have extramarital affairs galore while married. They tend to marry only in small numbers.
And we’re going to strip child-bearing and rearing from the definition of marriage for this?
There is a reason that marriage has stood as the unit in which a family is raised throughout all societies throughout history save the past 10 years in a few European secular states who can’t even produce enough offspring to repopulate their states. I fail to see why we should go down this road.
It can only be detrimental.
Democrats Try to Woo Homosexuals
Democratic candidates for President traveled to Los Angeles to participate in a debate on gay issues. The event, unprecedented for a presidential campaign, was sponsored by the Human Rights Campaign, one of the most powerful gay lobby groups in the world.
Senator Hillary Clinton (N.Y.), Senator Barack Obama (Ill.), former senator John Edwards (N.C.) and Governor Bill Richardson (N.M.) said they favored civil unions for gays, but not “marriage” per se. Only Representative Dennis Kucinich (Ohio) and former senator Mike Gravel (Alaska) endorsed same-sex “marriage.”
“Many married heterosexuals enjoy an occasional anal penetration,” Kucinich declared. “If they can be married, why can’t homosexuals?”
Despite the audience’s enthusiastic approval of Kucinich’s position, Senator Obama declined to fully endorse gay marriage, declaring that a “civil union” ought to be sufficient. “You know, many married people wish they had a civil union,” Obama said. “Getting spouses to be civil to one another is a worthy goal. Maybe if we convert all the marriages into ‘civil unions’ people will get the idea they ought to be civil to who they live with.”
Clinton reaffirmed her opposition to gay marriage, citing her own personal experience as her rationale. “Marriage isn’t so great,” she opined. “You make promises then some bum is diddling interns behind your back. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.”
Clinton did admit that legal provisions barring spouses from testifying against one another might come in handy, but that such circumstances were rare and should not induce people to embark upon “the gut-wrenching, heartbreaking matrimonial ‘trail of tears’ unless you absolutely have to.” She told the largely homosexual audience that they should “appreciate the absence of social pressures to get married and enjoy the unfettered freedom offered by relationships that are not legally binding.”
Edwards acknowledged that his notorious primping has led to rumors that he might be gay, but insisted that he is “merely effeminate.” “I love looking good and dressing well,” Edwards said. “Many have jumped to the conclusion that this means I’m gay. But I’m not. I would consider lesbianism, but I’m not cut out for it. Still, I firmly believe in gay rights and, as president, would fight for those rights.” Edwards suggested that his comprehensive national health plan should reassure gays that “their special diseases would be fully covered.”
Edwards also took a shot at Clinton, saying her husband’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy on serving in the military was “wrongheaded.” “The Spartans were gay and they are recognized as the most fearsome warriors in history,” Edwards asserted. “Why three hundred of them killed ten thousand Persians in a film earlier this year. So, I think we may be missing out by not actively recruiting gays and promoting gay relations among our troops.”
Bill Richardson, who appeared the most uncomfortable among the candidates, said he only came to the debate to demonstrate his tolerance “by spending some time in the same room with so many queers.” He confessed that he was feeling disconcerted, but said he was confident that he’d be okay “as long as I keep my pants on.”
Although they were invited, none of the Republican presidential candidates attended. Former New York mayor, Rudy Giuliani was the only one to offer a reason, saying “I couldn’t find my drag outfit.”
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http://www.azconservative.org/Semmens1.htm
“..but Obama has yet to go that far.”
Obama is just like any other politician who goes as far as is necessary to keep his congressional seat. Promise now, deliver only when it benefits your career.
A few points from “The Naked Communist” by Cleon Skoussen, Former FBI Agent, 1958:
18. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as normal, natural and healthy.
25. Discredit the (traditional) family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
Yep. Obama’s right on track with the Communist Talking Points this week. I wouldn’t expect any less of him.
Unions are gay.
yep, the commies never have left.
Clinton reaffirmed her opposition to gay marriage, citing her own personal experience as her rationale. “Marriage isn’t so great,” she opined. “You make promises then some bum is diddling interns behind your back. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.”
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As the Democrats try to push us more and more to the left, the Libertarians chime right in and back these moral reprobates on the left.
“Many married heterosexuals enjoy an occasional anal penetration,” Kucinich declared...............Despite the audience’s enthusiastic approval of Kucinich’s position....”
I think denny’s “position” was vividly in the minds of the “audience”, LOL........face in the pillow, LOL
But the hell of all of this is that the fag lobby within the various education boards across the country is teaching assemblies of 6th graders how to protect themselves from feces while “exploring their sexuality”.
Oh, c’mon, labor unions are only happy until two years before the contract runs out.
Thanks for the ping.
” Obama’s right on track with the Communist Talking Points this week...”
His base will be happy this week.
Best post of the day!
And no one has the guts to speak against this depravity.
“Good news! Keep pandering to the homos Dims, so real voters can wake up and see who you really are.”
I hope you are right that most Democrats aren’t like these contenders. I hope that this is a wake up call. These Democratic Candidates feel that this is the issue to differentiate themselves from Republicans. Apparently, this is their new civil rights movement. They are trying to make it seem like they have the moral high ground by fighting for equal rights for gays. I just hope that the American public isn’t that twisted yet and can still see that anyone taking up for the rights of Gays to form families is NOT taking the moral high ground. I hope too many aren’t over-dosing on anti-depressents, I hope people have more common sense then that!
There is so much of a brouhaha over this issue it’s ridiculously stupid.
All they gotta do is give each other power of attorney.
Problem solved.
But that’s obviously not their agenda. They want Mr. and Mrs. Ordinary Hetero American to believe that they are “Married”.
So this really has nothing to do with law, it’s about melding public opinion.
They can call it “marriage” or whatever all they want.
I, for one, will never agree with that description.
” There is no dispute among either ancient or modern Muslim scholars that under Islamic law, a murtadd, “one who turns his back on Islam,” an apostate, must be put to death. Irtidad, apostasy, is committing treason against God, and traitors deserve to be killed. At a minimum, other Muslims would shun him if not kill him and his mother.
The fact they are eagerly welcomed by the Muslim community begs the question, is he their ‘Manchurian’ candidate?
At a minimum, Obama should be asked if he will support the efforts of Christian missionaries in Islamic countries to peacefully convert Muslims to Christianity.”
That is discrimination if there are not civil unions permitted for straights!
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Wonder what Obama’s position is on polygamy
BUMP : )
You can take someone out of the madrassa.....
I think don’t ask don’t tell is working fine.
Obamasama the make believe Christian homo-loving cocaine freak muslim trojan horse. I hope more democrats send him money. Hillary won’t put him on the ticket, regardless.
Bears repeating. It's wrong to blame the breakdown of social mores on liberals alone. They are getting plenty of support.
I have always thought it’s strange that gays want to get married and straights want to just together.
You are correct there.
Oh yeah? Then YOU form a civil union with a gay ya putz.
"Oprah Winfrey is bringing in the big guns to raise money for presidential hopeful U.S. Sen. Barack Obama. Hollywood hotshots like Jamie Foxx and Beyonce Knowles might be part of the Sunday, Sept. 9 fundraising bash, but it won't be held here at Oprah's show (based in Chicago). It will be at her mansion in California."
It just shows to go ya that money is no insurance against hypocracy and stupidity......the ultimate capitalist funding the ultimate socialist.
Leni
So, Dennis enjoys the occasional anal penetration? Pitch or catch?
I don't know that I should disagree that he's the Muslim Manchurian Candidate, expect that Barry labors under no hypnosis.
HF
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GAYbour Unions.
Lol, wish she HAD said that instead of just thinking it!!
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