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Bush Pledges to Veto Homosexual Hate-Crimes Legislation
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | August 8, 2007 | Elizabeth O'Brien

Posted on 08/11/2007 8:31:53 PM PDT by monomaniac

Bush Pledges to Veto Homosexual Hate-Crimes Legislation

By Elizabeth O'Brien

WASHINGTON, D.C., August 8, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - As the contentious "hate crime" legislation that would add sexual orientation as a specially protected class is put before the Senate, after being passed in the House of Representatives, Bush has promised to veto the proposed bill should the Senate vote in its favor, the Washington Times reports

Democratic Massachusetts Senator Edward M. Kennedy and Republican Oregan Senator Gordon Smith reintroduced the "hate crime" bill, also known as the "Matthew Shepard Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act" into the Senate this July, buried as one of many amendments to the Defense Reauthorization bill. The bill's inclusion in the Defense Reauthorization bill forces Bush to choose between denying extra resources to his soldiers overseas or allowing the list of "hate-crimes" to include "sexual orientation" and "gender identity" (see http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/jul/07071305.html).

Referring to the proposed legislation, White House spokesman Trony Fratto recently told the Times, "The qualifications (in the bill) are so broad that virtually any crime involving a homosexual individual has potential to have hate-crimes elements."

He continued, "The proposals they're talking about are not sufficiently narrow."

Bush promised earlier this May to veto the House of Representatives version of the bill H.R. 1592. The White House issued a statement condemning the bill as "unnecessary" and "constitutionally questionable", noting that it fails to mention any other minority groups that also need protection. Referring to the fact that the bill gave the federal government control over local enforcement, the statement also noted, "There has been no persuasive demonstration of any need to federalize such a potentially large range of violent crime enforcement."

Ashley Horne, Focus on the Family Action federal policy analyst, commented on the hate-crimes bill, saying, "This legislation is unnecessary, creates second-class victims and paves the way for prosecution of religious speech."

"Virtually everywhere 'hate-crime' laws have passed, prosecutions for speech have followed. In Sweden, Canada and Great Britain, 'hate-crime' laws have been used to prosecute Christians speaking their disapproval of homosexual behavior, posing a serious threat to religious liberty and free speech."

The Canadian version homosexual "hate-crime" legislation, Bill C-250, that was given royal support on April 29, 2004, has proved true many of the fears and predictions of concerned Canadians. While attempting to prevent crimes against homosexuals, the bill has in effect opened the door to countless forms of legal action against other groups. Canadians have seen it being used to actively discriminate against religious leaders such as Pastor Stephen Boissoin who publicly denounced homosexuality based on his moral convictions, or companies that have refused to offer their services to homosexuals and has limited the freedom of the press.

Read related LifeSiteNews coverage:

Democrats Refuse Religious Freedom Amendment to Hate Crimes Bill
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/apr/07042601.html

US House Passes Gay Hate Crime Bill
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/may/07050405.html

President Bush Promises to Veto Homosexual Hate Crime Bill if Passed
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/may/07050302.html

Homosexual Hate Crime Signed into Law; Chilling Effect on Free Speech, Religion and Importing Materials
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2004/apr/04042901.html

Same-Sex "Marriage," "Hate Crimes," and the New Totalitarianism
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/feb/050228a.html


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 110th; bush; bush43; censorship; congress; defense; democrats; federalism; freedomofspeech; georgewbush; gwbush; hate; hatecrimes; homosexualagenda; house; moralabsolutes; presidentbush; prolife; senate; thoughtpolice; veto

1 posted on 08/11/2007 8:31:55 PM PDT by monomaniac
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To: monomaniac

Thank you , God.


2 posted on 08/11/2007 8:38:07 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: monomaniac
What exactly is it that differentiates a “crime” from a “hate crime?”

Why is this even worth the bandwidth?

3 posted on 08/11/2007 8:38:13 PM PDT by Radix (Mr. Natural says..."Be like two fried eggs. Keep your sunny side up.")
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To: Radix

It an attempt, one of many, to get gays established as a protected classs under the law.


4 posted on 08/11/2007 8:40:06 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: monomaniac

This is good. Bush’ popularity percentage should rise a few more points.

The whole concept of a “hate” crime is ridiculous.


5 posted on 08/11/2007 8:41:30 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Radix
What exactly is it that differentiates a “crime” from a “hate crime?”

It is the Orwellian deconstructionism of the modern left. Some victims are more special than others.

6 posted on 08/11/2007 8:42:27 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: Radix

You may not care but anybody or church that preaches against this life style could be in danger of fines and jail time.


7 posted on 08/11/2007 8:45:34 PM PDT by heavenbound
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To: Radix

They want hate itself outlawed — “hate” being any personal judgment of conservative reason.


8 posted on 08/11/2007 8:45:37 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: monomaniac
"The White House issued a statement condemning the bill as "unnecessary" and "constitutionally questionable"

I wish President Bush would have applied that test to many other pieces of legislation that he signed into law.

9 posted on 08/11/2007 8:45:51 PM PDT by KoRn (Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republicans - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: monomaniac
What perversity is comming off in the Dummy-controlled House!

Seems they have the temerity to add this gay nonsense to a needed defense appropriation bill, merely to put the president between a rock and a hard place. This shows how little they care about the defense appropriation itself.

10 posted on 08/11/2007 8:52:17 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

They are being their bad little selves.


11 posted on 08/11/2007 8:58:31 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: heavenbound
"You may not care but anybody or church that preaches against this life style could be in danger of fines and jail time."

If I did not care, then I would not be posting out here.

In my home State, a few renegade jurists have come to a place where they are comfortable with the notion that it is permissible for them to be running amok with the Law!

The professional crooks over at Be-A-Con Hill in Boston have no sac, and they are as reprehensible as any group of scum bags of any class could ever be.

Unfortunately, my neighbors are too effing ignorant, partisan, or corrupt to actually give a sheite for posterity.

12 posted on 08/11/2007 8:59:30 PM PDT by Radix (Mr. Natural says..."Be like two fried eggs. Keep your sunny side up.")
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To: monomaniac

While I have nothing against homosexuals as long as they don’t hit on me or try to do anything with/to me, whatever happened to the First Amendment, and me being able to call him a long string of insults without getting thrown in jail?


13 posted on 08/11/2007 9:03:00 PM PDT by wastedyears (Alright, hold tight, I'm a highway staaaaaaaaaaaaarrr)
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To: monomaniac

The Democrat congress are listening to their 14% approval base.


14 posted on 08/11/2007 9:03:14 PM PDT by skimask (The Democratic mantra.."Appeasement works. I'd rather live my life on my knees than die standing up)
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To: Radix
My condolences to you and all Massachusetts conservatives. From a Texan standpoint, Massachusetts must seem like a hellhole at times.
15 posted on 08/11/2007 10:52:14 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude

condolence accepted, ill be leaving soon enough and i hope to take a house seat with me.

maybe MA can carve up a new district like illinois 4th congressional district when all is said and done and appoint it to another kennedy or bulger. this is after all the nepotism and gerrymander capital of the US.


16 posted on 08/11/2007 11:33:31 PM PDT by Disciplinemisanthropy (...and that, friends, is what grinds my gears.)
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To: skimask

That and the kook fringe on boards like DU and KOS who don’t yet approve because the current batch hasn’t swung as far left as they would like.

I disagree with Hate Crimes. I consider them to be unConstitutional because all crimes are motivated by hate. I just think our society has sunk to a new level of perversity when we are setting up a special class of protection for who people sleep with.


17 posted on 08/12/2007 12:19:37 AM PDT by Pinkbell (I'm a Christian, a conservative and a Republican, in that order. - Mike Pence)
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To: SteveMcKing

“They want hate itself outlawed — “hate” being any personal judgment of conservative reason.”

You are absolutely right! No one hates more than liberals, but in their mind they don’t hate or are even capable of hating. But anyone who disagrees with them are meanspirited and hate mongers. This is a very dangerous road to go down. My thanks to Pres. Bush for promising to veto this monstrosity.


18 posted on 08/12/2007 12:30:57 AM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!)
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To: monomaniac

I’ll believe it when it happens.


19 posted on 08/12/2007 12:57:34 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Radix
What exactly is it that differentiates a “crime” from a “hate crime?”

About 10 years.

20 posted on 08/12/2007 1:05:30 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: nwrep
Patient Zero, the Air Canada steward, who was a one-man AIDS epidemic is the only person I know who might have committed a hate crime.

He purposely transmitted the AIDS virus to homosexual men all over North America because he was angry he had it.

21 posted on 08/12/2007 1:59:58 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: Radix
What exactly is it that differentiates a “crime” from a “hate crime?”

Hate crime attempts to define the "thought" behind the crime and punish the individual for thinking that way.

Frightening, isn't it?

You can almost see the world the Democrats want to build, where you can get arrested for a non-government sanctioned thought.

22 posted on 08/12/2007 5:51:07 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: monomaniac
Knowing the “Hate Crime” legislature will be vetoed anyway, if I were a Pubby Senator, I think I would add an amendment that would make it a “Hate Crime” for someone to kill the unborn -— just to see the RATS squirm. What other reason is there (but a hate crime) to kill the innocent!?!?
23 posted on 08/12/2007 5:57:47 AM PDT by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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To: monomaniac

Bush refused to sign the “hate crime” bill when TX gov. Then along came Perry!


24 posted on 08/12/2007 6:01:26 AM PDT by lonestar
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To: monomaniac

It was such a pleasure to read an article without a MSM twist.


25 posted on 08/12/2007 6:06:41 AM PDT by zeebee
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To: Radix

Who knows? Remember the libs whining about hate crimes in Texas, when the perps were given the death penalty?


26 posted on 08/13/2007 10:52:26 AM PDT by zendari
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