Nitrogen overload concerns ecologist (new POST-CO2 HYSTERIA is brewing)

San Jose Mercury News ^ | 8/12/07 | Suzanne Bohan

[ProtectOurFreedom]

On an overcast day in April, Stuart Weiss stood in the rolling hills of a Bay Area nature preserve and lifted a bag of nitrogen-based fertilizer to his shoulder. The heavy sack symbolized the unprecedented release of nitrogen into the Earth's air, land and water and the insidious environmental changes the potent fertilizer is causing globally.

At Edgewood Park in Redwood City, where he stood, nitrogen in vehicle exhaust from a nearby freeway has led to the local demise of a threatened butterfly population, according to research Weiss conducted. The link he established between the exhaust and the butterflies' decline attracted international attention among the growing federation of scientists studying "nitrogen pollution."

"I call it the biggest global change that nobody has ever heard of," Weiss said at the spring event. "The planet has never seen this much nitrogen at any time."

Human activity releases 125 million metric tons of nitrogen from agricultural activities and fossil fuel combustion a year, compared with 113 million metric tons annually from natural sources, according to a 2007 United Nations report called "Human Alteration of the Nitrogen Cycle."

In 1860, the U.N. report noted, there was virtually no release from human activity. The consequences of this spike, the report added, "are profound."

Not only is the glut of nitrogen disrupting cosystems, polluting waters and harming human health, but it's also a silent partner with carbon dioxide in changing the Earth's climate, the report said.

Despite the countless initiatives under way to reduce carbon-dioxide levels to slow global warming, some scientists warn that those efforts will prove moot unless nitrogen releases also are lowered.

"We won't solve global warming without addressing nitrogen," said Elizabeth Holland, a senior scientist with the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colo.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

THE NEW HYSTERIA IS COMING!!
Head for the hills! Hold onto your wallets!

Does anybody happen to know the amount of nitrogen in the earth's atmosphere? I seem to recall it's a pretty big chunk.

And what do you think happens to all that nitrogen as it passes through our fossil-fueled engines? It largely just goes along for the ride. We don't create the stuff, contrary to what this idiot "science writer" seems to think.

Actually, this article is so funny, it reminds me a lot of Dihydrogen Monoxide!! Methinks we need a petition to ban Nitrogen!

[null and void]

79%

This stuff is almost as dangerous as Dihydrogen-monoxide!

[Fresh Wind]

Table 7a-1: Average composition of the atmosphere up to an altitude of 25 km.

Gas Name	Chemical Formula	Percent Volume
Nitrogen	N2	78.08%
Oxygen	O2	20.95%
*Water	H2O	0 to 4%
Argon	Ar	0.93%
*Carbon Dioxide	CO2	0.0360%
Neon	Ne	0.0018%
Helium	He	0.0005%
*Methane	CH4	0.00017%
Hydrogen	H2	0.00005%
*Nitrous Oxide	N2O	0.00003%
*Ozone	O3	0.000004%

* variable gases

[Smokin' Joe]

Plant more clover. That’ll fix it.

[toddlintown]

Goo. Nothing like nitrogen used on a tap line for a tasty stout and a great head. Sure beats slamming back Dihydrogen Monoxide.

[null and void]

*groan*

[Lancey Howard]

Lead-based paint, asbestos, global cooling, radon, African killer bees, black mold, comets-heading-toward-earth, global warming, nitrogen.... What kind of scam will the scumbags dream up next so they can get their filthy paws on taxpayer dollars for “commissions”, “studies” and “grants”, etc?

[RightWhale]

Nitrogen compounds from cars and various other things that burn fuel were the big bugaboo during the smog alarm days. If they want to revert to smog alarm, with the farm runoff twist, it is clear that their Global Warming gambit is already faltering and they know it.

[Aevery_Freeman]

Roughly 78%. This nitrogen is inorganic and is fixed (made into organic compounds) in small quantities by lightning and some nitrobacteria in the soil largely in nodules on legumes (beans). With the invention of the Haber process, we can directly fix nitrogen ourselves vastly adding to supplies of organic nitrogen. Some is added by the cultivation of legumes. About half the nitrogen in the human body, it is estimated, came from an inorganic source via the Haber process.

[EggsAckley]

Oh, it’s so scary. I’ve noticed that if I mix nitrogen and dihydrous monoxide I get this really thick, green growth all over the yard. Have to keep pruning and mowing just to keep it under control.

We’re doomed.

[Red_Devil 232]

What we need to do is find a way to suck the atmospheric layer away from the Earth. They would not be complaining then!

[Man50D]

In 1860, the U.N. report noted, there was virtually no release from human activity.

1860? Now I know Ms. Bohan is full of fertilizer.

[Lancey Howard]

"We won't solve global warming without addressing nitrogen," said Elizabeth Holland, a senior scientist with the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colo.

A "senior scientist" believes she and her colleagues will "solve global warming"....
God in heaven, please save us from these insufferable imbeciles!

[Experiment 6-2-6]

Almost as funny as MARS ATTACKS

The gum contains Nitrogen!

So THAT'S how they can breathe in our atmosphere!

[JerseyHighlander]

Unlike the Co2 garbage global warming hoax, Nitrogen overload has been studied extensively for decades.

Pretty much, we and our animals poop too much, and suburban people and farmers use too much fertilizers on their lawns and farms in certain areas.

The CHeasapeake Bay is dead because of it. The coast and tributaries of North Carolina are quickly dieing because of it. The St. John’s River in Florida is the number one poster child for absolute failure of growing communities to be good shepherds of the land and water. That river is absolutely disgusting. Specifically because of failed waste water management and massive injection of fertilizer nitrogen into a relatively fragile ecosystem.

Some streams in Brooklyn and Queens have been dead over a century because of it.

The Thames river has been dead because of it for centuries. As has the lower Ganges.

This isn’t new, the new part is the industrial fertilizers injecting massive nitrogen loads into the water supply.

[oyez]

Nitrogen happens.

I think the next crusade by the environmentalists will be that ban of fertilizers, which if successful, the the result would be quite obvious.

[Professional Engineer]

Let me be the first to say:

MY NITROGEN FOOTPRINT IS BIGGER THAN YOURS!

[kinoxi]

[Man50D]

There are carbon offsets to negate pollution caused by excessive carbon in the atmosphere. I’m proposing the same concept for nitrogen. It will hence be called a nitrogen nix. Send your money to me immediately to purchase nitrogen nixes to eliminate the damage you heathens have placed upon the earth.

[EGPWS]

On an overcast day in April, Stuart Weiss stood in the rolling hills of a Bay Area nature preserve and lifted a bag of nitrogen-based fertilizer to his shoulder. The heavy sack symbolized the unprecedented release of nitrogen into the Earth's air, land and water and the insidious environmental changes the potent fertilizer is causing globally.

Why can't these nut-balls cut to the chase and save us the torment of their perpetual promotion of their stupidity and just say that the whole of the human race must commit suicide for the sake of the planet and be done with it?

[andyandval]

We're all gonna die!

[muir_redwoods]

80% of the atmosphere is nitrogen already and I understand the oceans are filling up with water too.

Hey, and who left the dirt all over the earth anyway?

[John Jorsett]

What’s ultimately going to save us is the numbing effect engendered by having the Crisis of the Week shoved in people’s faces. The Center for Science in the Public Interest got a lot of attention and buzz for its early pronouncements about how our food is killing us (”A heart attack on a plate”), but its later harangues have been met with yawns and complaints about their nagging.

[Professional Engineer]

LOL

[EGPWS]

Send your money to me immediately to purchase nitrogen nixes to eliminate the damage you heathens have placed upon the earth.

Gosh, if you think it will help.

Don't spend all of your time standing by your mailbox with eager anticipation of a check from EGPWS however for my government contributions take priority via lawful intent.. ; )

[claudiustg]

It’s all so horrifying! :^0

[steelyourfaith]

[ken21]

the left is anti-technology.

they look for ways to stop capitalism.

read ayn rand’s:

http://www.amazon.com/New-Left-Anti-Industrial-Ayn-Rand/dp/B000L3PXQC/ref=sr_1_2/105-0939207-1981266?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1186937356&sr=1-2

[Smartaleck]

“We don’t create the stuff, contrary to what this idiot “science writer” seems to think.”

Perfectly well stated. Wonder if these dolts think gold can also be produced from nothing?

[EGPWS]

the left is anti-technology.

they look for ways to stop capitalism.

Now THAT'S a revelation....

[metesky]

[ken21]

as in the book of revelations?

[Moonman62]

The only solution is for liberals to report to the Soylent Green factory. That would make Gaia happy.

[claudiustg]

-—About half the nitrogen in the human body, it is estimated, came from an inorganic source via the Haber process.-—

So, will the world now be divided into the habers and habernots?

[bigfootbob]

Next on the list will be anhydrous ammonia. Ban that substance and the new sacrament to the Gaia worshipers, corn based ethanol, will cause corn to produce ears the size of the miniature corn-cobs we see in Chinese food. Won’t get much “green” energy from mini-ears of corn.

I would have figured with the 40 million plus abortions in this country since Roe V Wade, we would have thinned the liberal mindset better.

[EGPWS]

Hey, and who left the dirt all over the earth anyway?

It isn't that there is dirt all over the earth that is at issue nope, it's the fact that it has been tainted by unnatural entities that are called human beings. ; )

[EGPWS]

as in the book of revelations?

Don't tell me that Algore wrote another book! /snicker

[ProtectOurFreedom]

Why can't these nut-balls cut to the chase and just say that the whole of the human race must commit suicide for the sake of the planet and be done with it?

Some nut-balls are way ahead of you, believe it or not! See Voluntary Human Extinction Movement.

[Cold Heart]

Ha Ha, to make urea or ammonia fertilizer they take nitrogen out of the air.

[EGPWS]

...but its later harangues have been met with yawns and complaints about their nagging.

Perhaps the later harangues have changed subject, but the agenda behind the haranguing past and present remains the same.

Less capitalism and the thwarting of personal freedom.

[EGPWS]

Some nut-balls are way ahead of you, believe it or not!

I'll repeat what I have previously stated in other threads in respect of this movement.

Logan's Run.....

[Roccus]

After IPCC, 26 scientists speak on global warming
Earth & Sky (2 Feb 2007)

Elizabeth Holland … “no longer uncertain” - I’m speaking here from my personal scientific view – not as an author of an IPCC chapter, but my personal view. My view is that most of us scientists are now convinced that global warming is happening. We are now convinced that the most likely cause of global warming is human activity. And we are no longer uncertain about whether the climate is warming. We are actually quite certain that the climate is warming, and we are certain that human activity is the cause.”

[EGPWS]

Ha Ha, to make urea or ammonia fertilizer they take nitrogen out of the air.

To a "moon bat" liberal, if it is done via human progression in a free society then it doesn't matter.

It's just plain and simply detrimental to nature.

[EGPWS]

We are now convinced that the most likely cause of global warming is human activity. And we are no longer uncertain about whether the climate is warming. We are actually quite certain that the climate is warming, and we are certain that human activity is the cause.”

Okay Elizabeth take this...

So?

[samtheman]

Nitrogen compounds from cars and various other things that burn fuel were the big bugaboo during the smog alarm days. If they want to revert to smog alarm, with the farm runoff twist, it is clear that their Global Warming gambit is already faltering and they know it.

You are exactly right. Now that it turns out that 1934 is the warmest year on record, they have to quickly shift gears from "warming now" to something like "silent sinister underlying alteration of the nitrogen cycle".

We're doomed. Doomed, I tell you. And in a few weeks I'll have a brand new theory all concocted, er, worked out, that will PROVE we're doomed.

[RedMonqey]

I dread the deadly effects of Nitrous Oxide overwhelming the climate.

Fear of high pitched, giggling people

[The Great RJ]

Perhaps to secure the perfect environment we should just wipe out all human life on the planet. I suggest that Al Gore lead by example and commit environmental hari-kari in the name of saving the planet from global warming. However he must off himself in an environmentally friendly way...no electrocution, carbon monoxide etc. Maybe he could just drown himself with all the polar bears.(sarcasm)

[John Jorsett]

Perhaps the later harangues have changed subject, but the agenda behind the haranguing past and present remains the same.

No doubt, but when you attain the status of "nut raving on the corner," your agenda doesn't matter, since nobody is paying attention.

[Roccus]

Just showin’ where she’s comin’ from.

[RedMonqey]

Unlike the Co2 garbage global warming hoax, Nitrogen overload has been studied extensively for decades

True . But these Nimrods are just jumping on the bandwagon of GW hysteria.

A good case for real problems being ignored for fantastic ones.