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STS-118: Astronauts zoom in on shuttle gash
AP on Yahoo ^ | 8/12/07 | Marcia Dunn - ap

Posted on 08/12/2007 4:19:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - A close-up laser inspection by Endeavour's astronauts Sunday revealed that a 3 1/2-inch-long gouge penetrates all the way through the thermal shielding on the shuttle's belly, and had NASA urgently calculating whether risky spacewalk repairs are needed.

A chunk of insulating foam smacked the shuttle at liftoff last week in an unbelievably unlucky ricochet off the fuel tank and carved out the gouge.

The unevenly shaped gouge — which straddles two side-by-side thermal tiles and the corner of a third — is 3 1/2 inches long and just over 2 inches wide. Sunday's inspection showed that the damage goes all the way through the 1-inch-thick tiles, exposing the felt material sandwiched between the tiles and the shuttle's aluminum frame.

Mission managers expect to decide Monday, or Tuesday at the latest, whether to send astronauts out to patch the gouge. Engineers are trying to determine whether the marred area can withstand the searing heat of atmospheric re-entry at flight's end. Actual heating tests will be conducted on similarly damaged samples.

"We have really prepared for exactly this case, since Columbia," said John Shannon, chairman of the mission management team. "We have spent a lot of money in the program and a lot of time and a lot of people's efforts to be ready to handle exactly this case."

The damaged thermal tiles are located near the right main landing gear door. In a stroke of luck, they're right beneath the aluminum framework for the right wing, which would offer extra protection during the ride back to Earth.

This area is subjected to as much as 2,300 degrees Fahrenheit during re-entry. A hole, if large and deep enough, could lead to another Columbia-type disaster. Columbia was destroyed in 2003 when hot atmospheric gases seeped into a hole in its wing and melted the wing from the inside out. A foam strike at liftoff caused the gash.

Teacher-astronaut Barbara Morgan — who was the backup for Challenger's Christa McAuliffe in 1986 — conducted the slow and painstaking survey, along with crewmate Tracy Caldwell. They used the 100-foot robotic arm and extension boom that flew up on Endeavour, steering the instrument to a spot just above the gouge and keeping it hovered there.

Laser sensors and cameras zoomed in on the damage, white and easily visible against the black tiles, from a variety of views.

Four other damaged areas also were scanned. Engineers believe the piece of foam struck the shuttle's underside, creating the big gouge, then skimmed along the bottom and nicked it in at least three spots. Those smaller gouges pose no threat, Shannon said.

The foam came off a bracket on the external fuel tank 58 seconds after Wednesday's launch, fell down onto a strut on the tank, then bounced up, right into Endeavour's belly. Ice apparently formed before liftoff near the bracket, which helps hold the long fuel feed line to the tank, and caused the foam to pop off when subjected to the vibrations of launch.

It's possible some ice was attached to the foam, which would have made the impact even harder. The debris that came off is believed to have been grapefruit-sized.

These brackets have lost foam in previous launches, a concern for NASA, Shannon said. A switch to titanium brackets, eliminating foam, will not occur before next year.

Shannon said he did not know whether the recurring foam problem would delay the next shuttle flight, currently scheduled for October.

"We have a lot of discussion to have before we decide to fly the next tank," he said.

The inspection consumed much of the astronauts' day. On Monday, two of them will go back out for the second spacewalk of the mission to replace a broken gyroscope at the international space station.

Endeavour has been docked at the space station since Friday. It will remain there until Aug. 20 for a record 10-day stay. Mission managers on Sunday approved the prolonged visit based on the successful testing of a new power transfer system flying on Endeavour. The system is drawing power from the station and converting it for use aboard the shuttle.

On the space station, meanwhile, two cosmonauts continued repairs to a Russian computer system that failed during shuttle Atlantis' visit in June. Condensation from an air conditioning unit apparently is collecting behind the panels where the computer equipment is located.

And a U.S. command-and-control computer that shut down during Saturday's spacewalk was working again Sunday.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: astronauts; gash; nasa; shuttle; shuttleendeavour; sts118

1 posted on 08/12/2007 4:19:56 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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NASA: http://spaceflight.nasa.gov


2 posted on 08/12/2007 4:20:23 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Welcome to FR. The Virtual Boot Camp for 'infidels' in waiting)
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The Space Shuttle Endeavour's damaged thermal tiles are shown in this image of the computer software screen controlling the orbital boom sensor system's thermal camera in this view from NASA TV August 12, 2007. (NASA TV/Reuters)


3 posted on 08/12/2007 4:21:14 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Welcome to FR. The Virtual Boot Camp for 'infidels' in waiting)
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The Space Shuttle Endeavour's damaged thermal tiles are shown in a box in this image of the computer software screen controlling the orbital boom sensor system's thermal camera in this view from NASA TV August 12, 2007. This is believed to be the largest of the four gouges on the shuttles's protective tiles. REUTERS/NASA TV (UNITED STATES)


4 posted on 08/12/2007 4:21:59 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Welcome to FR. The Virtual Boot Camp for 'infidels' in waiting)
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To: NormsRevenge
Just fer contex.

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5 posted on 08/12/2007 4:22:40 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: NormsRevenge

The mission is extended three days so they can go ahead and make the repair without time pressure.


6 posted on 08/12/2007 4:22:43 PM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: cripplecreek

Thanks, the pattern looks like the chickenpox and the measles at the same time. lol


7 posted on 08/12/2007 4:24:08 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Welcome to FR. The Virtual Boot Camp for 'infidels' in waiting)
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To: NormsRevenge

Another murder by environmentalist in the making.

http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=2942

In response to an edict from the EPA, NASA was required to change the design of the thermal insulating foam on the shuttle’s external tank.


8 posted on 08/12/2007 4:24:38 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: NormsRevenge

hope they get it right.


9 posted on 08/12/2007 4:27:00 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Hate me, I'm white.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

They have a kit or two of stuff they can apply so they have options, should be just fine.


10 posted on 08/12/2007 4:29:26 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Welcome to FR. The Virtual Boot Camp for 'infidels' in waiting)
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To: stinkerpot65

Criminal!


11 posted on 08/12/2007 4:32:29 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: NormsRevenge
They have a kit or two of stuff they can apply so they have options, should be just fine.

Duct Tape???

12 posted on 08/12/2007 4:39:37 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: stinkerpot65

“Another murder by environmentalist in the making.”

Thanks for posting. That was my first thought when I heard of the damage.

I was raised in the late 60s, early 70s. Indoctrinated in the beauty of simple living, not polluting, etc.
Screw the environmentalists!!!
They are communists with an agenda, and part of that agenda is stiffling progress wherever it happens.


13 posted on 08/12/2007 4:50:16 PM PDT by brownsfan (America has "jumped the shark")
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To: stinkerpot65
I was going to remind of the “environmental damage” er. I mean “damage by environmentalists”
14 posted on 08/12/2007 4:52:01 PM PDT by GoforBroke
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To: stinkerpot65
Another murder by environmentalist in the making.

Yeah, and if our President had any guts, right after Columbia he would've said "Enough is enough" and ordered a return to the original insulation for "National Security" reasons. He could have used an Executive Order to do it.
15 posted on 08/12/2007 4:55:57 PM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: stinkerpot65

Just wondering if you can spot where the foam problems spiked after the change?


16 posted on 08/12/2007 5:01:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"We have spent a lot of money in the program and a lot of time and a lot of people's efforts to be ready to handle exactly this case."

I and the crew of the shuttle are more inerested in results than good intentions. Or in NASA's investments - I invested ten years of my own.

Fill hole, cross fingers, go forward, come home.

Then go back to the nasty old foam and scr@w the enviroweenies.

17 posted on 08/12/2007 5:03:33 PM PDT by norton
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To: NormsRevenge

A couple rolls of duct tape and some bondo and it should be good as new.


18 posted on 08/12/2007 5:13:38 PM PDT by skimask (Support Terrorism......Vote Democratic)
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To: GoforBroke
“damage by environmentalists”

"Green on the outside, RED on the inside"

19 posted on 08/12/2007 5:18:39 PM PDT by xcamel ("It's Talk Thompson Time!" >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
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To: stinkerpot65

“green” foam is not to blame.
This is a myth that seems to die hard and keeps coming up over and over again....

http://www.sts107.info/kooks%20and%20myths/kooks.htm#EPA

Myth - Left wing environmental policies doomed the shuttle
According to some claims, EPA regulations that eliminated Freon caused the foam to fall off.
CFC-11 Freon was used to apply the Spray On Foam Insulation (SOFI) to the ET, and the formula was changed because of EPA regulations. The new method did result in more foam falling off and hitting the shuttle, most notably STS-87, which had 308 damaged tiles, but that was not the type of foam which doomed Columbia.

In the mid-1990s, the EPA banned CFC-11 Freon. NASA has many waivers from the EPA for critical items. In each case a commercial supplier is licensed to produce the limited quantities NASA needs, but it’s incredibly expensive to manufacture the relatively small quantities just for one customer. Lockheed-Martin went through a major effort to find a more environmentally friendly propellant. (It wasn’t something they wanted to do, but a necessity.) They selected HCFC 141b (Dichlorofluoroethane). HCFC 141b is only used to spray acreage foam –applied to the large cylindrical surfaces with a giant robotic sprayer.

The bipod foam which doomed Columbia was BX-250 foam, which was excluded from that EPA mandate. Technicians built the bipod by hand, layer by layer, and carved it into shape. The manufacturing process for the bipod and its chemical composition did not change and still used CFC-11. No changes to environmental regulations caused the Columbia accident.


20 posted on 08/12/2007 7:08:41 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares

I have had to beat this myth down several times. It will never die. Standby for the responses that recycled freon made more foam shed than non-recycled freon.


21 posted on 08/12/2007 8:31:29 PM PDT by burzum (None shall see me, though my battlecry may give me away -Minsc)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/63758main_TPS_FACT_SHEET.pdf

Directly from NASA ....

The “new” foam containing HCFC 141b
was first used on the liquid hydrogen tank
aft dome of ET-82 and flew on STS-79 in
1996. The foam was implemented on the
tank’s acreage, or its larger portions,
beginning with ET-88, which flew on STS-
86 in 1997. In December 2001, BX-265,
which contains HCFC 141b, first flew as a
replacement of BX-250. However BX250
continued to be flown as BX-265 was
implemented step wise through the
manufacturing process.


22 posted on 08/12/2007 8:37:02 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Man, I’d be drunk too if I had to fly on that thing.


23 posted on 08/12/2007 9:04:30 PM PDT by gura
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To: gura

24 posted on 08/12/2007 11:49:06 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo (Skip the Moon, go for Mars)
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To: gura

gimme some o that too


25 posted on 08/12/2007 11:49:37 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo (Skip the Moon, go for Mars)
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To: stinkerpot65
In response to an edict from the EPA, NASA was required to change the design of the thermal insulating foam on the shuttle’s external tank.

I don't think we can reasonably hang this one on the EPA. Previous shuttle threads have covered the topic, including the part where NASA was exempted from the pertinent regulations, yet chose to reformulate the foam anyway.

26 posted on 08/12/2007 11:54:13 PM PDT by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

Thanks for that pic. It really shows the extent of the damage clearly.


27 posted on 08/13/2007 6:08:50 AM PDT by chrisser
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To: Fitzcarraldo

28 posted on 08/13/2007 6:15:27 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (eHarmony reject)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

spaceflightnow.com

SUNDAY, AUGUST 12, 2007

A “focused inspection” of the shuttle Endeavour’s heat shield today, prompted by concern over foam impact damage spotted earlier in the mission, revealed a deep gouge that nearly penetrates two adjacent tiles on the orbiter’s belly. The damage was not apparent in realtime imagery downlinked from the shuttle, but higher resolution photos seen later in the day clearly showed a small but deep, scooped-out pit in the heat shield.


Not much update today. They will replace one of the four attitude control gyros. The tile pit repair spacewalk is being hyped as dangerous, but there isn’t much about spacewalk activities that isn’t dangerous.


29 posted on 08/13/2007 8:11:52 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

spaceflightnow.com

1200 GMT (8:00 a.m. EDT)

The Endeavour astronauts are gearing up for a planned six-and-a-half-hour spacewalk today to replace one of the international space station’s stabilizing gyroscopes, one of four needed to maintain the lab’s orientation, or attitude, in orbit.


It’s constant work to keep the ISS flying. If they ever have to abandon it they won’t be coming back because it won’t be there to come back to.


30 posted on 08/13/2007 8:31:47 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

spaceflightnow.com

1533 GMT (11:33 a.m. EDT)

EVA BEGINS. Rick Mastracchio and Dave Williams switched their spacesuits to internal battery power at 11:32 a.m. EDT, marking the official start time for today’s spacewalk to replace a failed control moment gyroscope on the space station.


Canadian in Space!


31 posted on 08/13/2007 8:51:59 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: NormsRevenge

You know I’m glad that they have things in place now to make repairs to the heat shield but I can’t help but wonder why it is that they don’t seem to have done anything to keep that damn insulation from flying off the fuel tank in the first place.


32 posted on 08/13/2007 8:58:07 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (It's up to us to keep it all from unraveling)
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To: CougarGA7

spaceflightnow.com

1658 GMT (12:58 p.m. EDT)

“This is the most amazing ride I’ve ever had,” Williams just said.

1655 GMT (12:55 p.m. EDT)

Canadian astronaut Dave Williams is taking a ride on the Canadian-built space station robotic arm. Perched in a foot platform on the arm, Williams is being maneuvered down to the shuttle bay to get the new gyroscope.


And this after he just rode the Shuttle into orbit and docked with the ISS! Maybe it’s that Canadian thing.


33 posted on 08/13/2007 10:44:46 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: All

For a situation as potentially deadly as Challenger or Columbia, NASA is sure playing this down very well.


34 posted on 08/14/2007 7:23:43 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo (Skip the Moon, go for Mars)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

PC foam DID indeed cause more damage to the shuttles.

Any other characterization is a lie.

Ask yourself why a thin protective skin, such as a shrink-wrapped tube, could not be applied to the external foam to keep it from impacting the shuttle?

Because NASA is a bureaucratic nightmare.

Now imagine government-run healthcare.


35 posted on 08/15/2007 3:45:39 AM PDT by Stallone (Free Republic - The largest collection of volunteer Freedom Fighters the world has ever known)
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To: gura

It’s really past time to retire the shuttles.


36 posted on 08/15/2007 3:51:33 AM PDT by Kozak
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To: Stallone
NASA is playing this close to the vest. I suspect they want to release the very bad news after all the other work is done.

IMO 50-50 they decide not to reenter with Endeavour.

37 posted on 08/16/2007 8:53:27 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo (Skip the Moon, go for Mars)
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To: All
Shuttle crisis ping.
38 posted on 08/16/2007 9:36:54 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo (Skip the Moon, go for Mars)
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