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How Bronze Age man Enjoyed His Pint
BBC ^ | 8-12-2007

Posted on 08/12/2007 4:39:08 PM PDT by blam

How Bronze Age man enjoyed his pint

Declan Moore and Billy Quinn have an ancient beer theory

Bronze Age Irishmen were as fond of their beer as their 21st century counterparts, it has been claimed. Two archaeologists have put forward a theory that one of the most common ancient monuments seen around Ireland may have been used for brewing ale.

Fulacht fiadh - horseshoe shaped grass covered mounds - are conventionally thought of as ancient cooking spots.

But the archaeologists from Galway believe they could have been the country's earliest breweries.

To prove their theory that an extensive brewing tradition existed in Ireland as far back as 2500BC, Billy Quinn and Declan Moore recreated the process.

After just three hours of hard work - and three days of patiently waiting for their brew to ferment - the men enjoyed a pint with a taste of history attached.

Three hundred litres of water were transformed into a "very palatable" 110 litres of frothy ale.

The archaeologists are producing their fourth batch of beer

"It tasted really good," said Mr Quinn, of Moore Archaeological and Environmental Services (Moore Group).

"We were very surprised. Even a professional brewer we had working with us compared it favourably to his own.

"It tasted like a traditional ale, but was sweeter because there were no hops in it."

Mr Quinn said it was while nursing a hangover one morning - and discussing the natural predisposition of all men to seek means to alter their minds - that he came to the startling conclusion that fulachts could have been the country's earliest breweries.

The two archaeologists set out to investigate their theory in a journey which took them across Europe in search of further evidence. On their return, they used an old wooden trough filled with water and added heated stones.

After achieving an optimum temperature of 60-70°C they began to add milled barley and approximately 45 minutes later simply baled the final product into fermentation vessels.

The men have since made two more batches of beer - the second was stronger and the third was "a disaster" - but they have started work on batch number four which the hope will taste as good as their first.

The archaeologists' experiment is described in detail in next month's edition of the magazine, Archaeology Ireland.


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KEYWORDS: beer; bronzeage; godsgravesglyphs; irish; pint; truthbehindmyths
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1 posted on 08/12/2007 4:39:12 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 08/12/2007 4:39:42 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam; monkapotamus; All

Hey Monk you know want to know how Looter guy ancestors enjoy their beer LOL!


3 posted on 08/12/2007 4:41:54 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: blam

“Unnngh!”

[”Brilliant!]


4 posted on 08/12/2007 4:42:04 PM PDT by RichInOC ("Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."--Benjamin Franklin)
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To: blam
The purpose of agriculture was to enable the making of beer.

Think about it. An early agricultural community, raising wheat. Would you prefer to exist on bread, or make beer with it to trade for meat from every passing hunter?

5 posted on 08/12/2007 4:47:50 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Open Season rocks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymLJz3N8ayI)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Very good point.


6 posted on 08/12/2007 4:50:37 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: blam

Considering a second career, blam?


7 posted on 08/12/2007 4:52:08 PM PDT by labette
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To: Jet Jaguar
"Very good point pint."
8 posted on 08/12/2007 4:54:19 PM PDT by norton
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To: blam

9 posted on 08/12/2007 5:00:33 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: Constantine XIII

Beer make you smart...it made bud wiser


10 posted on 08/12/2007 5:04:36 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("I fear we have woken a sleeping giant and filled her with a terrible resolve" - Osama 9-11-01?)
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To: blam

They should make their own microbrew and call it “Bronze Age Brew” or “Bronze Age Ale”. It would sell.


11 posted on 08/12/2007 5:08:04 PM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred")
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Nice! XD

I didn’t realize it was Punday yet!


12 posted on 08/12/2007 5:08:43 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: blam
The archaeologists' experiment is described in detail in next month's edition of the magazine, Archaeology Ireland.

"Experiment"? Hell, it sounds like a good excuse to get plastered.

That's my kind of experiment!

13 posted on 08/12/2007 5:10:12 PM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred")
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To: SevenofNine
"Hey Monk you know want to know how Looter guy ancestors enjoy their beer LOL!"


14 posted on 08/12/2007 5:13:33 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: GOP_Raider

Ping. Must be ancient beer month!


15 posted on 08/12/2007 5:15:55 PM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right.)
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To: monkapotamus

Damn Monk Looter guy been for years and years he is original guy he is immortal you can’t rid of Looter guy


16 posted on 08/12/2007 5:25:01 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: blam

What did the Bronze Age bucko use for smokes?


17 posted on 08/12/2007 5:25:49 PM PDT by Peelod (I do renounce Hillary! and all her pomps and works.)
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To: rzeznikj at stout; GOP_Raider; Rodney King; Tainan; Chasaway; SquirrelKing; dynachrome; ...

Beer Ping!

A low to medium ping list aimed at all of us who, well, love our beer…

FReepmail rzeznikj at stout or GOP_Raider to be added or struck from the list…

18 posted on 08/12/2007 5:26:43 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (Your one stop shop for all your useless information needs.)
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To: knews_hound

Howza bout a Homebrewer’s ping?


19 posted on 08/12/2007 5:30:09 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: blam

20 posted on 08/12/2007 5:32:57 PM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: SevenofNine; monkapotamus

Damn Monk Looter guy been for years and years he is original guy he is immortal you can’t rid of Looter guy


He seemed to be the only one in the entire city of New Orleans who knew what the hell he was doing! Maybe this explains why!


21 posted on 08/12/2007 5:34:26 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: blam

Also remember that beer is food. Beer has a lot of calories, and is a lot easier to make than barley bread, which is a pain and involves a lot of hard work.

Barley does have the advantage that it is easier to malt, which means to germinate then dry before the plant grows. This produces the enzymes needed to convert its carbohydrates to sugars, which are needed for brewing.

It also grows in cold and salty ground, even colder than where rye will grow.

So either you have to dry it, hull it, grind it, etc., to make bread, or just mash it up for beer.


22 posted on 08/12/2007 5:35:29 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: blam

Better living through archaeology!


23 posted on 08/12/2007 5:36:40 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Grizzled Bear; quantim; spinestein; 5Madman2; DTogo; Horatio Gates; Ribeye; decal; B Knotts; ...
Outstanding Ping GB.

I live for articles like this and am fascinated with the close correlation between civilization and beer.



On or off the Homebrewers Ping List, let me know.

Cheers,

knewshound

Brew Your Own.
24 posted on 08/12/2007 5:37:22 PM PDT by knews_hound (In order to not be banned, I no longer discuss Politics here.)
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To: Coyoteman
Better living through archaeology!

Now we need to find the ancient site where they made pretzels!

25 posted on 08/12/2007 5:37:42 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Grizzled Bear
And Corn Nuts.
26 posted on 08/12/2007 5:39:35 PM PDT by decal (Be honest, now - does this tagline make me look fat?)
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To: Grizzled Bear
Now we need to find the ancient site where they made pretzels!

I'll keep an eye out!

But I do archaeology in the western US, and I suspect we need to look to the Old World for the beer munchies!

27 posted on 08/12/2007 5:40:08 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: blam
The men have since made two more batches of beer - the second was stronger and the third was "a disaster" - but they have started work on batch number four which the hope will taste as good as their first.

It makes me wonder if there is something magic about yeast, because that parallels my experience as a teenager.

My Irish grandmother was reminiscing about Prohibition. she lived in PA at the time, and "Felt sorry for her German neighbors who missed their beer".

So she regaled us with "Taking a can of Blue Ribbon Hop Flavored Barley Malt syrup, five pounds of sugar and five gallons of water and a yeast cake and...."

At some point that Spring, puzzled by the sudden popularity of the neighborhood nerd, my sister discovered our "Down by the pond" brewery, capping machine nailed to a stump, and a covered pottery vessel liberated from the cellar. She squealed. My father busted us, and was yelling and lecturing. The bottles were on strings, floating low in the pond, and were staying a pleasant 50° or so.

I pulled one in and opened it and handed it to him.

His eyes popped out and he said, "GEt all this stuff into the cellar!!"

I made it for years, and actually miss it, when I remember it. I may just dust off the old skills..it was full bodied and very malty, no doubt not a Great Beer, but still...

I wonder if that malt syrup is still around? It was a large can with (haha) Muffin recipes on the side!

28 posted on 08/12/2007 5:44:56 PM PDT by Gorzaloon (Food imported from China = Cesspool + Flavr-Straw™)
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To: Popocatapetl
"Also remember that beer is food. Beer has a lot of calories, and is a lot easier to make than barley bread, which is a pain and involves a lot of hard work."

And, the process kills all the (possibly deadly) bacteria.

Diluted wine was often used to sterilize water.

29 posted on 08/12/2007 5:46:07 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: SevenofNine
Looter guy been for years and years he is original guy he is immortal you can’t rid of Looter guy

Yes, he has turned his life around.

He has taken a shower, gotten a job and learned proper English.

30 posted on 08/12/2007 5:51:32 PM PDT by humblegunner (Word up!)
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To: blam

Why can’t I do “scientific” research projects like this? [I’m a geologist, I can only study what kinds of rocks the prehistoric men threw at each other when they were drunk]


31 posted on 08/12/2007 6:06:44 PM PDT by rockprof
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To: rockprof

From what I know about geologists, I’m sure they’d be pretty good at this kind of “research”.


32 posted on 08/12/2007 6:23:53 PM PDT by seowulf
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To: blam

What I would like to know is how it only took three days to brew the beer?


33 posted on 08/12/2007 6:42:47 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: blam

The guy on the right reminds me of Martin Short!


34 posted on 08/12/2007 6:46:28 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Martin Short as Ed Grimely


35 posted on 08/12/2007 6:51:27 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Popocatapetl
So either you have to dry it, hull it, grind it, etc., to make bread, or just mash it up for beer.

I'll go for making beer. Less work, more fun.

36 posted on 08/12/2007 6:55:19 PM PDT by LibKill
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To: blam
"Yeah, so we like to loosen up a bit after work. Got a problem with that?"


37 posted on 08/12/2007 6:58:33 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: Gorzaloon

“I wonder if that malt syrup is still around? It was a large can with (haha) Muffin recipes on the side!”

I still see malt syrup in grocery stores. I buy mine by the pound at the Brewer’s supply. I remember my mother telling me about my grandfather making beer during prohibition and the bottles exploding in the cellar. It made my grandmother furious that he was making beer but she didn’t mind at all that he was a bootlegger for my uncle down in Hickman County Tennessee. Go figure.


38 posted on 08/12/2007 7:14:07 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: blam
In Bolivia they make a corn beer.
Women masticate the corn and spit it into a crock.
They do put cheese cloth over it to keep out most bugs while it is fermenting.
Nasty stuff.
39 posted on 08/12/2007 7:25:49 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: blam
Interesting. They might be onto something. The process sounds similar to a couple of other brewing techniques:

Sahti

Steinbeer

40 posted on 08/12/2007 7:42:07 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: Gorzaloon
I wonder if that malt syrup is still around?

Malt syrup is easily available. I don't know about Blue Ribbon, but we homebrewers use the stuff all the time.

Many of the breweries which were closed by Prohibition went into the malt extract business. There was a large advertising campaign around it. It was pretty much an open secret that almost no one was using the stuff for baking.

In fact several manufacturers would basically print a recipe very similar to yours on the can and say "now don't ever do this, kids."

And I highly recommend you rekindle your old skills. Homebrewing is lots of fun.

L

41 posted on 08/12/2007 7:56:20 PM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to ebola.)
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To: Gorzaloon

We made beer from Blue Ribbon Hop Flavored Malt Syrup for years. Ten gallons of water, three envelopes of yesat, a gallon of syrup, five pounds of sugar in a big stainless steel liner from a Navy coffee urn. (we had it on a dolly because it was rounded on the bottom). Bottling and capping took a full evening, but gave us 12 cases to enjoy. Man, was that stuff POTENT!!! Foosh!


42 posted on 08/12/2007 10:02:10 PM PDT by redhead (Victory first; then peace)
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To: redhead
We made beer from Blue Ribbon Hop Flavored Malt Syrup for years. Ten gallons of water, three envelopes of yesat, a gallon of syrup, five pounds of sugar in a big stainless steel liner from a Navy coffee urn. (we had it on a dolly because it was rounded on the bottom). Bottling and capping took a full evening, but gave us 12 cases to enjoy. Man, was that stuff POTENT!!! Foosh!

Yes, I recall it was NOT one of those beers for drinking in the summer heat while mowing the lawn or other chores. I never used a hydrometer and did not have a clue what the alcohol content was, but it was _not_ 3.2. It was more a "laying in the hammock" beer that precluded useful work. :-)

43 posted on 08/13/2007 3:03:35 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Food imported from China = Cesspool + Flavr-Straw™)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
In Bolivia they make a corn beer. Women masticate the corn and spit it into a crock. They do put cheese cloth over it to keep out most bugs while it is fermenting. Nasty stuff.

There is something made in Mexico along those lines. Diastase in the saliva cracks starches into sugars, then the zymase in the yeast goes to work on the sugar. People must really want to drink...

44 posted on 08/13/2007 3:06:49 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Food imported from China = Cesspool + Flavr-Straw™)
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To: Lurker
And I highly recommend you rekindle your old skills. Homebrewing is lots of fun.

I did a web search. They still make Blue Ribbon Hop Flavored Malt Syrup!!

Expect my typing to deteriorate in the near future...

45 posted on 08/13/2007 3:08:47 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Food imported from China = Cesspool + Flavr-Straw™)
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To: SIDENET; All

“...They should make their own microbrew and call it “Bronze Age Brew” or “Bronze Age Ale”. It would sell...”

Bronze-age brews have been on the market for some time now. There is a beer called “Fraoich” (I think I spelled that right), that is brewed in Scotland, using bog myrtle and heather instead of hops. It’s widely available in the United States, and tastes pretty good.

There is also a traditional type of rye beer in Finland, that has been brewed continuously since Neolithic times. It’s not something commercially available (at least, not in the U.S.), as people just make it in their homes, but ancient beer is no stranger to Finland.


46 posted on 08/13/2007 3:21:58 AM PDT by Renfield (How come there aren't any football teams with pink uniforms?)
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To: seowulf

‘...From what I know about geologists, I’m sure they’d be pretty good at this kind of “research”....’

No kidding. As a group, they put Russian sailors to shame.


47 posted on 08/13/2007 3:26:23 AM PDT by Renfield (How come there aren't any football teams with pink uniforms?)
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To: Grizzled Bear
Now we need to find the ancient site where they made pretzels!

I wonder if cave babes made ham sandwiches?

48 posted on 08/13/2007 8:42:26 AM PDT by cowboyway (My heroes have always been Cowboys)
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To: GOP_Raider

Add me to the beer ping list perty please.


49 posted on 08/13/2007 9:58:02 AM PDT by BJClinton (And then it occured to me: a real rocket scientist posted the Friday silliness thread on Thursday.)
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To: Gorzaloon
"Yes, I recall it was NOT one of those beers for drinking in the summer heat while mowing the lawn or other chores. I never used a hydrometer and did not have a clue what the alcohol content was, but it was _not_ 3.2. It was more a "laying in the hammock" beer that precluded useful work. :-)"

I think it was closer to 12%. 12%, I believe, is the point at which the boys who make the magic kill themselves off. Most natural wines are around 12%, if I remember correctly. Please feel free to correct where needed.

50 posted on 08/13/2007 2:15:04 PM PDT by redhead (Victory first; then peace)
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