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Firms dock pay of obese, smokers
Washington Times ^ | 8/13/07 | Gregory Lopes

Posted on 08/12/2007 10:47:36 PM PDT by melt

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To: RichRepublican
What about people who are nursing, pregnant or may become pregnant nurses?
41 posted on 08/13/2007 1:51:26 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (")
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To: SheLion; Gabz

Ping!


42 posted on 08/13/2007 2:23:40 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: DB; 2ndDivisionVet

No, no they need “Romney Care”


43 posted on 08/13/2007 2:49:10 AM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: melt

“Fat people got no reason.....fat people got no reason...

Don’t want no fat people.....don’t want no fat people round here....”


44 posted on 08/13/2007 3:02:11 AM PDT by Nextrush ((A Randy Newman parody))
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To: melt

Are they going to dock the pay of homosexuals? How about those who have a few drinks after work? There are infinite ways for meddling do gooders to punish any behavior they don’t agree with.


45 posted on 08/13/2007 3:07:02 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: DB

Health insurance for a self-emplyed person is 100% deductable of the general tax on the 1040 form but you still pay the 15%+- fica on it because it cannot be deducted as a business expense.


46 posted on 08/13/2007 3:33:10 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: melt

“It’s discrimination, man...”

I think he’ld be right. I would like to apply certain mental health criteria at my place, like finding a way to screen out the neurotic impulse that motivates control-freaks.


47 posted on 08/13/2007 3:40:12 AM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Rousing the blog-rabble since 9-11-01)
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To: this_ol_patriot

I have seen insurance companies go both ways on considering people “high risk”. On one hand people with the risk factors of weight, blood pressure, and lipids. On the other hand people who are extremely fit were considered “high risk” by the same company - anyone who did more than the lowest common denominator health club routine. One company even considered anyone who bicycled more than 75 miles per week to be “high risk” on the grounds of “excessive exercise”.


48 posted on 08/13/2007 4:02:27 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: melt

Ha, they would cut the payroll in half here. I swear 90% of the women here are overweight, and many of them smoke as well. Make that 95% now that I think about it. I can count the fit girls on one hand. The guys run about 50% and only a few smoke.


49 posted on 08/13/2007 4:03:20 AM PDT by doodad
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To: melt; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; elkfersupper; nopardons; metesky; Mears; ...

Nanny state Pingeroo!!!!!!!!!


50 posted on 08/13/2007 4:20:04 AM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: CometBaby
"Some people could become uninsurable and unemployable for nothing more than their genetic code."

That was the theme of the movie Gattaca (derived from the four letters of the genetic code, GTCA).

51 posted on 08/13/2007 4:27:25 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: CometBaby
Right now fat people are on the hit list. They have to pay for two seats on the airplanes. They are a BIG target these days (no pun intended) hehe.

That's different, though. The turbines do not know what a person looks like, or if 370# is one passenger, or two standard passengers. It simply costs so many pounds of jet fuel to accelerate and lift a certain amount of mass. That's why, if you bring along your collection of decorated anvils, you have to pay excess baggage. Maybe if a flight is empty it should not matter I suppose.

52 posted on 08/13/2007 4:35:26 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Food imported from China = Cesspool + Flavr-Straw™)
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To: melt

Not surprising in a country where people regularly pee in a cup for a job.


53 posted on 08/13/2007 4:45:08 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: SoDak
"I heard once that the most significant portion of what this country spends on health is extending the life of people by 2 to 3 weeks that are terminally ill, taking extraordinary measures. I wonder if that's true."

I thought it was something like 80% of healthcare dollars are spent taking care of patients in the last 9 months of their lives.

Of course, during this treatment, no one knows it's the last 9 months.

My insured brother-in-law had adult leukemia. His bill for treatment was something like $400,000. He didn't make it. Given the end result, the cold, hard fact is that the money was wasted. But it was the right thing to do, since there was a chance.

54 posted on 08/13/2007 4:46:08 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: melt

Wouldn’t it be better if, instead of this leap of “big-brotherism”, companies simply provided a set dollar amount towards an employee’s health insurance and then let the employee pay the rest? Why go through all these gyrations and the invasion of privacy when the answer is so simple?


55 posted on 08/13/2007 4:49:05 AM PDT by meyer (It's the entitlements, stupid!)
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To: DB
"With car insurance your rate goes up with known risky behavior."

So does life insurance. Smokers, the obese, the elderly, all pay more. Now there's discrimination.

56 posted on 08/13/2007 4:50:06 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: melt

” $30 will be taken out each paycheck until they meet certain weight, cholesterol and blood pressure standards.”

Interesting, because the chloesterol level in the blood is not a good indication of the health of an individual. Individuals with higher cholesterol tend to live longer than individuals with low cholesterol. It is not a factor in determining heart or cardiovascular health. Cholesterol as a “disease” is a scam to promote the sale of cholesterol lowering drugs.


57 posted on 08/13/2007 4:53:07 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: SoDak
We had a health risk assessment this year that was voluntary and tied to a slight discount.

TVA, part of the federal government, started doing this a couple of years ago. I would not participate because my physical condition was none of their business. It's an invasion of privacy, plain and simple.

There's plenty of other socialist/big-brother activities that TVA did that were rather outragious as well, but I won't get into those.

58 posted on 08/13/2007 4:54:06 AM PDT by meyer (It's the entitlements, stupid!)
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To: Sockdologer

As fat as he is,I doubt he has enough time left to make another movie.


59 posted on 08/13/2007 5:01:05 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (If there's lead in the air,there's hope..)
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To: melt

I’m all for private business to run the way they see fit...

Health insurance/care from the employer is an archaic concept anyways....

I want car insurance from my employer....


60 posted on 08/13/2007 5:01:13 AM PDT by dakine
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