Posted on 08/13/2007 5:00:30 AM PDT by DogByte6RER
Honor Killings in Turkey Claimed Lives of Mother, Daughter
Posted GMT 8-11-2007
A woman (47) deserted her husband in Kars, in eastern Turkey, and moved in with her divorced daughter (27), mother of three. They were located by the husband/father and his son who came yesterday to the women's home in Kocaeli, where the 19 year old son brutally killed his mother and his sister by beating them on the head with a bat, with his three young nephews watching.
Upon his arrest the 19 year old said that he had killed the women to clean the honor of his family.
Recently, the new women MPs from all political parties in Turkish parliament had announced that they would cooperate in the fight against honor killings and to elevate the status of women in Turkey.
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I wonder if Hell has a waiting list for all these ROP applicants? Nah, I bet there is plenty of room. I hope so, many more are on their way down.
I wonder how many N.O.W. members are muslims?.........
Real “power women.”
Real “power women.”
2 Thessalonians 2:
8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendour of his coming.
9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders,
10 and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.
11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie
12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.
I wonder whether the “honor of the family” defense will become popular with our garden-variety trash who kills an estranged spouse or girlfriend?
What a dumb klunk! Too stupid to understand how profoundly he dishonored himself--and his family.
yep.
that’s an evil religion.
read medieval history and you’ll see that they;re repeating the acts over and over against others.
that is very extreme. I am in turkey for the time being and it is NOT LIKE THAT. A couple divorced, so gracefully and normal you woulda never thought it happened. She moved into a house with her sister, the husband was around all the time. I would still see them at bars together, drinking. Their kids came during the summer where they were all together, for the kids sake i suppose. and by kids i mean 30-35 years old.
She moved to a town 1.5 hours away since this one is very small, not out of fear but typical european gossip. 2 months ago they got back together.
No vengence, no spite, but surely a divorce without the violence. there are bad apples in every bunch, a lot of these people aren’t educated, haven’t experienced much of life but don’t take the 1 criminal and make it a stereotype.
this place is very peaceful when it comes to the ‘religon of peace’. everybody is so fn chill you wouldn’t believe your eyes.
it would be like me taking a headline out of usatoday with a black man going to jail for murdering a family of five and saying ALL OF AMERICA is like that.
don’t brand this place, we are fine so far. yes, like i said a bad apple in every bunch but, glass houses!
-h
Everything I needed to know about the 'Religon of Peace' I learned on 9-11.
hear that seal clapping for you?
if thats all you learned about one religon from one day you have a ways to go.
hey yesterday i read about this fellow american of yours who raped and killed his family. So i guess that makes you part of ‘them’ too. So who did you rape and kill today then? since we are lumping everyone in together.....
No wonder you are balding, all the best trying to get rid of your ignorance.
-hunter
“dont brand this place, we are fine so far. yes, like i said a bad apple in every bunch but, glass houses!”
I lived among Muslims in Dearborn, Michigan for 2 years.
Yes, there were a couple of cases. In one the father abused his daughters then fled back “home” before social services got the courts to act. In another, there was a murder.
However, the vast majority of Muslims I met were good people, just as good, and just as flawed, as the Christians that I served as clergy.
What Turkey is doing it to address the whole issue of domestic violence, something that the US and Europe did some 20-30 years ago. The reason we find this example in Turkey so appalling is that we are embarrassed at our own past, including teachings by some churches that abusive behavior was the Will of God.
Liberals, ya gotta love 'em!
Less than a minuite into an argument and they are reduced to personal attacks.
Just like everywhere else, everyday there are murders out of affairs/cheating/running away. love combined with anger is a very normal drug which has no cure, which also can lead to any emotion. A man with flowers, or a woman with a knife. it goes both ways.
thanks for the kind words, this place is definitely modernized as many people may think we ride camels and wear turbans etc. everyone is well dressed, we have no homeless, are allowed to drink in public, park anywhere we want to without being ticketed.
taking one headline like this and saying “ROP” alert is like me taking a pastor molesting a kid’s headline and saying “Western Society Morality alert!”
immature. with the population we are dealing with, this will happen until the end of time.
I appreciate it, thanks. For the most part all anybody wants to do here is help the others out. hence no homeless in my town which is odd but welcoming.
So make it a big ROP headline, i bet tonight someone else will be killed for running away from their spouse, IN EVERY MAJOR CITY WORLDWIDE. It’s not localized and has nothing to do with religon in this case.
-h.
We keep reading articles of Muslim extremism in Turkey, with responses like yours. We heard the same response when the 3 Christians were killed by Islamists. In fact, we heard the same response for all of Islam after 9/11.
At some point, it doesn't wash.
so not worth it, i am far from a liberal and will actually apologize to if you can prove to me that this type of event is the only one that happened, in this ROP country in a span of 24 hours.
You will see a lot more looking in your local newspaper.
sorry for the two hairs that i just made fall out, but you have nothing.
-h
Tell that to the families of the 3,000.
so let’s not post the deathtoll in iraq since the occupation, or the children than died under the sanctions either, going by the same rule. right friend?
-h
I am out because this sort of flame war is like two handicapped people having a slam dunk competition. i made my point clear, i understand yours but- really, give it some thought before hitting reply so eagerly.
goodnight kids.
The only real difference is that in America it would be the ex doing the killing, and he would probaby use a gun.
Also, he would get no slack from the legal system because it was a “family matter.” I understand this is not the case in many Muslim countries. Not sure about Turkey.
So the killing is essentially the same. How it is viewed by society and handled by the legal system may be quite different.
Got a figure for how many iraqi families have been displaced/dead so far? it’s just a bit higher than that.
2 more hairs gone. l8r.
-h
It’s a sik culture. Honor my foot.
Where are the NOW women? I know, their idealism only shows when their personal safety is assured in the US.
Any “RELIGION” that condones this, is not a religion &
should be BANNED EVERYWHERE.
This “RELIGION” is PURE EVIL.
You ARE aware that these type killings happen in the U.S. every day except that it’s usually the ex or estranged husband or boyfriend doing the killing. And while we don’t call it an “honor” killing, it’s the same motive — wounded pride, uncontrolled ego, or insane jealousy that you don’t “own” the woman any more.
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