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The Movie That Changed The Movies [ExileStreet]
ExileStreet ^ | 8/13/07 | Bruce Thornton

Posted on 08/13/2007 6:31:22 AM PDT by ParsifalCA

As New York Times critic A.O. Scott wrote recently, forty years ago this summer the movie that changed the movies premiered. Anybody old enough to remember films before Bonnie and Clyde can testify to the jolting power of Arthur Penn’s kinetic blend of blue-grass slapstick, Depression-era nostalgia, and gruesome, stylized violence. But something else was revealed then, something that I, 14 at the time, was too callow and ignorant to notice behind the cinematic innovations––the moral idiocy that has since come to define pretty much most of American popular culture.

Bonnie and Clyde staked a claim to a moral seriousness that supposedly validated the stylistic innovations and elevated the film beyond mere flashy entertainment. Clyde Barrow and Bonnie Parker, played with fashion-magazine glamour by Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway, are “just folks,” as Dunaway says in the movie, salt-of-the-earth Americans driven to crime by the machinations of the evil banks they rob for some justified payback, Texan Robin Hoods admired by the common-man victims of American capitalism. Yet the “man,” embodied in the sadistic Texas Ranger Frank Hamer, wouldn’t let them be, hunting them down and slaughtering them in the movie’s famous bloody climax, just after Bonnie and Clyde had finally found the soft-focus sexual fulfillment of a typical Hollywood romance.

The Marxiste folk-tale underlying the movie’s otherwise conventional star-crossed-lovers plot was obvious, and as much as the cinematic innovations accounted for the film’s popularity with many critics [more]

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bonnieandclyde; hollywoodleft; liberal; marxists; moviereview; movies

1 posted on 08/13/2007 6:31:26 AM PDT by ParsifalCA
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To: ParsifalCA

Cops and robbers. The rest is too deep.


2 posted on 08/13/2007 6:38:29 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: ParsifalCA

Good observation...the whole culture has been reconfigured to suit this and other lies.


3 posted on 08/13/2007 6:41:55 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: ParsifalCA

Whatever you do - don’t sell that cow!


4 posted on 08/13/2007 6:42:17 AM PDT by joebuck
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To: ParsifalCA

Have read several who opined that Butch and Sundance were in the “movie that changed the movies”. Six of one, half a dozen of the other, hayna?


5 posted on 08/13/2007 6:44:02 AM PDT by flowerplough ("Call Mr. Plow, that's my name. That name again is Mr. Plow!" -Homer, in a TV commercial.)
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To: ParsifalCA
Oh come on!

Hollywood would never, ever cast evil characters at good guys!


6 posted on 08/13/2007 6:45:41 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: ParsifalCA
The glorification of the bandit goes a LOT farther back than Bonny and Clyde.

Think Robin Hood, Jesse James and Billy the Kid.

Today we've got people looking up to the the thugs of the rap industry and the narcotraficantes.

7 posted on 08/13/2007 6:50:24 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (It's not the heat, it's the stupidity.)
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To: ParsifalCA
One of my favorite movies. Should have won best picture of the year. As Warren Beatty said after the awards, "We was robbed."
Someday they'll go down together
They'll bury them side by side
To few it'll be grief,
To the law, a relief.
But it's death for Bonnie and Clyde.

8 posted on 08/13/2007 7:05:26 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: ParsifalCA

It was a good movie, but I liked “Cool Hand Luke” better. “What we have here is a failure to communicate.”


9 posted on 08/13/2007 7:07:12 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: flowerplough

Hollywood has been in bed with the Reds for a long time. The historical Spartacus was a brutal — possibly psychotic — criminal... but Hollywood cast him as hero decades ago.


10 posted on 08/13/2007 7:15:26 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

BOY, do I remember Bonnie and Clyde. I was twelve, I was crazy about it (would sneak off to see it while my mother was at work...must have seen it a dozen or more times). When my mother found out who I was idolizing (I thought Bonnie Parker was just too cool), she was horrified and I got a good lecture on bad guys being bad guys.


11 posted on 08/13/2007 7:21:52 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: ParsifalCA

***...psychopathic killers––Clyde had jug-ears and a weak chin, Bonnie the mean mouth and ferret eyes of a white-trash skank.***

Great article.


12 posted on 08/13/2007 7:24:25 AM PDT by kitkat (I refuse to let the DUers chase me off FR.)
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To: ParsifalCA

Outstanding article. Thanks for posting.

Anti-truth, fictional representations corrode the rational faculties of the casual observer.

Run Hillary run!


13 posted on 08/13/2007 7:28:43 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: ParsifalCA
At the time the movie came out, some of the real life characters were still alive including Blanche Barrow and some of the posse that killed Bonnie and Clyde. The silly portrayals of Blanche, Frank Hamer, and even Clyde reduced the movie to a comic book level. Blanche hated her movie likeness as played by Estelle Parsons.

The true story was much more interesting, more action filled, and more unbelievable. Both Clyde and Bonnie did have a certain mix of natures manifesting normal human emotions and friendliness but also ruthlessness and self-justifying adolescent false-morality.

Texas Ranger Frank Hamer’s life could be fodder for several movies. He shot three times as many men that Clyde did and was a top pistolero. The movie was indeed a defamation of his character. He was a giant among other great lawmen of the time.

Most writers seem to go on about Bonnie and Clyde being of an inbred appearance or otherwise unattractive. But I think photos reveal them to be more attractive than their average peers. If one looks over 15 or 20 Bonnie and Clyde photographs one will see that they were not Hollywood star material but were reasonably attractive.

14 posted on 08/13/2007 7:32:46 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: kitkat
A short fiery tempered redhead...


15 posted on 08/13/2007 7:34:20 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: showme_the_Glory

Hi, showme_the_Glory:

Never thought much of “Bonnie & Clyde”. Depression-era lead slinging desprados meets French New Wave was a curiosity, Though I did like Gene Hackman’s supporting role as Clyde’s brother Buck and the massive ambush at the film’s end.

What’s interesting, is that French New Wave films were highly influenced by thousands of American B-Movies that were sent across the pond to Europe. Thus creating recycled garbage.

The only film I can think of that could have been influenced by “Bonnie & Clyde” would be Robert Altman’s “McCabe & Mrs. Miller”. Which isn’t saying all that much.

Jack.


16 posted on 08/13/2007 7:44:51 AM PDT by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Resident FReeper Kitty Poem /Haiku Guy)
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To: Sherman Logan
Robin Hood is slightly different. Liberals like to adapt the Robin Hood tale to modern day capitalist democracies in order to justify their tax & social program policies, i.e. their “fight against greedy robber barons”. However medieval England and 21st century U.S. are different.

Here everyone has the opportunity to rise up from their station through hard work and determination.

Back then you were locked into your class. Hard work amounted to little. Hmmmm, that sounds an awful lot like communism.

17 posted on 08/13/2007 7:45:15 AM PDT by NYCynic
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To: ParsifalCA

I saw the movie Bonnie and Clyde. I didn’t view them as any kind of ‘Robinhoods’. The movie showed them shooting people in cold blood. Anyone who ‘romanticized’ that wasn’t paying attention.


18 posted on 08/13/2007 7:54:07 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: eastsider

A great, great movie. Those who cannot distinguish between Hollywood history and actual history need some schooling.

“... about the third night
They’ll be invited to fight
By a sub-gun’s rat-a-tat-tat...”


19 posted on 08/13/2007 8:04:01 AM PDT by karnage
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To: karnage

When I was a kid, back in the early 50’s., I went to the Alabama State Fair. There was an exhibit there that had a host of historical things of horror. There were lamp shades of human skin made by Nazi’s among other things. Also, the car that Bonnie and Clyde were killed in was there as well pictures of that event. Bonnie was sitting in the driver’s seat with the door open. She was riddled with bullets. The bridge of her nose was shot away and her nose was hanging over her lips.


20 posted on 08/13/2007 8:13:29 AM PDT by pugdog
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To: BenLurkin

Agreed. Bonnie appears to have had quite the rack.


21 posted on 08/13/2007 8:20:57 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: pugdog
I saw their car as well in the late 60's.

B & C were so glorified even before the movie came out to the point that my mom thought they hadn't killed anybody. I, as a kid, had to educate her about that.

22 posted on 08/13/2007 8:29:58 AM PDT by Tolkien (There are things more important than Peace. Freedom being one of those.)
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To: ParsifalCA

Bonnie and Clyde were a pair of psychos... I enjoyed the part at the end where they were machine-gunned.


23 posted on 08/13/2007 8:37:17 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: Tolkien

My wife and I went to the Texas Rangers Museum in Waco a few years ago. Frank Hammer’s guns that he used against Bonnie & Clyde are on display.

A great museum to visit.

Also, when LBJ stole his first Senate election near Kingsville, Tx in 1948, Hammer was sent alone to break up a riot . He must have been one tough son-of-a-gun.


24 posted on 08/13/2007 8:38:45 AM PDT by pugdog
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To: ParsifalCA

Bonnie and Clyde killed innocent people. Those deaths get minimized and devalued in the glamorization of evil. I thought Jesse James was a folk hero until I read about his cold blooded execution during a bank robbery of a man James thought was a Union adversary in the war. The problem was Jesse had the wrong man. At least Bob Ford knew who he was murdering.


25 posted on 08/13/2007 8:55:33 AM PDT by Spok
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To: pugdog
Also, when LBJ stole his first Senate election near Kingsville,
Tx in 1948, Hammer was sent alone to break up a riot .
He must have been one tough son-of-a-gun.


Hence the term...
One Riot, One Ranger
26 posted on 08/13/2007 9:00:23 AM PDT by VOA
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To: karnage
The Barrow Gang's fate was sealed when they shot the first bank security guard, which they knew was a mistake from the get-go. Their every attempt to run away from what they had done was completely unrealistic: their initial attempt to escape in the movie theater ("We're in the money"); Blanche's wistful self-identity as a preacher's daughter; Buck's reliving a youthful experience as he's in his death throes; Bonnie's slow motion, vaseline-on-the-lens visit with her mother; C.W.'s ill-fated visit to his father ...

To me, the movie really isn't about the the historical Bonnie and Clyde at all -- it's about how people create their own inexorable destinies.

Bonnie: What would you do if some miracle happened and we could walk out of here tomorrow morning and start all over again clean? No record and nobody after us, huh?

Clyde: Well, uh, I guess I'd do it all different. First off, I wouldn't live in the same state where we pull our jobs. We'd live in another state. We'd stay clean there and then when we'd take a bank, we'd go into the other state ...


27 posted on 08/13/2007 9:00:57 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: pugdog

I love Hamer’s words after he dealth with Bonnie and Clyde. He stated “I hate to bust a cap on a woman especially when she was sitting down but if it hadn’t of been them it would have been us”.

He was real old style lawman.


28 posted on 08/13/2007 9:15:54 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: VOA

Hammer ambushed B & C near Vidalia, Louisiana. The father who supposedly told Hammer where B & C would be, was played by one of the best character actors ever: Dub Taylor. His boy, Buck Taylor was a regular on “Gunsmoke”.


29 posted on 08/13/2007 9:20:53 AM PDT by pugdog
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To: ParsifalCA
The real hero! FRANK HAMER! (One "M" in the name)
30 posted on 08/13/2007 9:24:02 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Ever see WILLIS SHAW backwards in your rear view mirror? I have!)
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To: ParsifalCA

***As New York Times critic A.O. Scott wrote recently, forty years ago this summer the movie that changed the movies premiered.***

Actually there were several films that caused quite a stir at that time.

Bonnie and Clyde.

Villa Rides! (Before Bobby Kennedy’s murder critics said it was good western. After the murder, a movie that glorifed violence.)

A Fist full of Dollars.
For a Few dollars More.
Good the Bad and the Ugly.

The Wild Bunch (My favorite)

And who can remember the uproar over those “sadistic” JAMES BOND films.

Must not forget ROSMARY’S BABY.


31 posted on 08/13/2007 9:36:05 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Ever see WILLIS SHAW backwards in your rear view mirror? I have!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)


32 posted on 08/13/2007 9:38:28 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: ParsifalCA
A few more photos for the ghouls. http://texashideout.tripod.com/bc.htm
33 posted on 08/13/2007 10:06:47 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Ever see WILLIS SHAW backwards in your rear view mirror? I have!)
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To: ParsifalCA

You don’t have to go to the movies to see historical inaccuracies and leftist propaganda. I was watching the History Channel a few months ago, and they had a program about the most notorious outlaws of the Great Depression like Dillinger and Pretty Boy Floyd. The program actually depicted the hoodlums as being victims of society and portrayed Hoover and the F.B.I as monstrous villains who mercilessly gunned down those heroic outlaws. I couldn’t believe what I was viewing. So the propaganda and indoctrination proceeds on other media venues. You don’t have to go to the flicks to get your anti-American dose.


34 posted on 08/13/2007 12:13:19 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: ParsifalCA

That movie and Sam Peckinpah brought graphic violence to mainstream movies. Not something to celebrate.


35 posted on 08/13/2007 12:16:38 PM PDT by AU72
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To: ParsifalCA

This is a very true analysis about what Bonnie & Clyde did to transform the movie culture. I would state, however, that if it hadn’t been this one, someone else would have done it.


36 posted on 08/13/2007 12:25:25 PM PDT by Amalie (FREEDOM had NEVER been another word for nothing left to lose...)
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To: eastsider

The scene you quoted is one of the best in the movie; it shows the fundamental difference between the romance Bonnie imagines, and the reality of the man she has fallen in love with.


37 posted on 08/13/2007 1:35:50 PM PDT by karnage
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To: Little Ray

I had the same reaction.

“Dead Man Walking” with Sean Penn getting the needle was also an enjoyable ending.


38 posted on 08/13/2007 3:41:05 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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