Posted on 08/13/2007 7:12:33 PM PDT by Chickensoup
School Then 1957
vs
School Now 2007
1. Scenario: Jack goes quail hunting before school, pulls into school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack.
1957 - Vice principal comes over to look at Jack's shotgun. He goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.
2007 - School goes into lock down, and FBI is called. Jack is hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.
2. Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school.
1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up best friends.
2007 - Police called. SWAT team arrives. Johnny and Mark are arrested and charged with assault. Both are expelled even though Johnny started it.
3. Scenario: Jeffrey won't be still in class, disrupts other students.
1957 - Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by the principal. He returns to class, sits still, and does not disrupt class again.
2007 - Jeffrey is diagnosed with ADD and given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. School gets extra money from state because Jeffrey has a learning disability.
4. Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.
1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.
2007 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is placed in foster care and joins a gang. State psychologist tells Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself, and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has affair with psychologist.
5. Scenario: Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.
1957 - Mark shares aspirin with principal out on the smoking dock.
2007 - Police called. Mark is expelled from school for drug violations. Car is searched for drugs and weapons.
6. Scenario: Pedro fails high school English.
1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college.
2007 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given a diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.
7. Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from 4th of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a red ant bed.
1957 - Ants die.
2007 - Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, Homeland Security, and FBI called. Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. The FBI investigates parents; siblings are removed from home; computers confiscated. Johnny's dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.
8. Scenario: Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Heather. Heather hugs him to comfort him.
1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.
2007 - Heather is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces three years in state prison. Johnny undergoes five years of therapy.
In 1957, no kid ever knew his teacher's first name. She would be "Miss Jones" (or whatever Heather's last name is)
Starts out very poignant.
Proceeds to ridiculous, then stupid, cute, and just plain wrong.
Yep, what is described here is all too true of the differences between then and now.
A big common denominator in all of these is that we’re not allowed to use any common sense any more. Various types of zero tolerance policies are used now which preclude anyone from thinking about how to deal with a situation.
School in 57 sounds like my rural school in 80.
All good. Number 7 is my favorite.
I was in first grade before the turn of 1990. I missed all the good times.
Matter of fact, we did used to go squirrel hunting behind the school after school was out. I also had on of the teachers take me out of class to zero in his deer rifle. Things have changed.
This post exaggerates some, but it does point out the differences between then and now.
Although, my high school had a zero-tolerance policy towards fighting and this was in the early 90s. If you got jumped at school and just sat there, you still got suspended for “fighting.” I remember my mother telling the principal that if I would get suspended anyway, that she gave me full permission to beat the hell out of the kid that started the fight.
No fights though. Everyone carried a knife ~ somewhere ~
Our rural school in the late 70’s sounds like 57 also.
We used to hunt on the way to school and cook the critter’s in bachelor survival class.
1990s History Textbooks: Not Racist enough
Mine was, Billy is chewing gum, gets caught and lies about it.
1957 - Billy has to wear gum on his nose all day.
2007 - Billy’s parents are forced to go out and buy gum for every student in the class because everyone is equal and the ones who have gum are responsible for providing for those who do not have gum.
I remember a speech class in about 1964 where a student spoke about his shotgun and demoed how to use it.
Funny thing is, none of us were scared. I guess that is because everyone had rifles and shotguns. And had respect for them.
In the early seventies, our FFA class was held in the same building as auto & metal shop. The FFA teacher brought a .38, and a cow to school, shot the cow in the head in shop class and the FFA class strung it up with our chain hoist and slaughtered it. Man there was an inch of blood on the shop floor and it stank for days! By the way, this was a large suburban school.
Me too. Many of these things were still sane relatively recently.
2007: United States Mint produces a gold medal to honor the Little Rock Nine.
Gosh, life was so much better in 1957! < /s>
>>>>1. Scenario: Jack goes quail hunting before school, pulls into school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack.
1957 - Vice principal comes over to look at Jack’s shotgun. He goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.<<<<<
That was my friends and me back in the early 70s. We would go goose hunting before sun up until school started, leave our shotguns in the vehicles, didn’t lock the doors and then would check out each others shotguns during lunchtime.
I always carried my shotgun or deer rifle in the vehicle during hunting season. You never knew when an opportunity would pop up.
Creeping liberalism was oozing under the door when I graduated in 83 but it was too late to do much damage to me. I think many of our teachers were conservative enough to protect us from it. In fact most of my teachers were the same teachers who taught my parents. They had invested their lives in real teaching.
My vice principal worked on the farm with me during the summer as an equal. I respected him in ways few other students did.
???? Hmmmmmm...How cute is Heather? ‘cause I may want to hit it.
Several times when guys just wouldn’t leave each other alone in gym class, and it was going to come to a fight, the coach would make us lock arms. They fought till someone gave. It usually took care of the problem. I recall it was more of a wrestling and pinning match, but it seemed healthy resolution.
Yup!...LOL...but it was to clean the game!!!..if any guy in my school had pulled one in a fair fight..they’d have been ostracized and blackballed by everyone...girls included!...a good ass kicking is much easier to take then being called a coward...
1957 — Timmy gives Susie a kiss on the cheek. Everybody says, “Aww, isn’t that sweet?”
2007 — Timmy is arrested and has to register as a sex offender the rest of his life.
ping for cute
Who are their grandchildren expected to blame today?
And what’s all this crap about “free drugs” for the elderly?
That was pretty much the story.
My dad, who went to school in the 1920's, told about the time his uncle (who was a bootlegger) gave him enough gum to pass around to every kid in the class, because the rule at that time was "no gum chewing unless everybody gets some."
2007 - FR has just received a warrant for your private info. Your phones have just been tapped. There's a dark sedan parked down the block from you. Dateline is getting ready to do an "internet explosion addiction" sting.
2007: United States Mint produces a gold medal to honor the Little Rock Nine.
Gosh, life was so much better in 1957! < /s>
Let me get this right, because the US Mint stamps out a gold medal in 2007 that means our standards of morality are higher in 2007 than they were in 1957?
Was that your point?
“3. Scenario: Jeffrey won’t be still in class, disrupts other students.
1957 - Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by the principal. He returns to class, sits still, and does not disrupt class again.
2007 - Jeffrey is diagnosed with ADD and given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. School gets extra money from state because Jeffrey has a learning disability. “
From my history:
1954, I was disruptive in class (6th grade). Mr Finch, the teacher, gave me a 5 page report to do in 2 days as punishment. I did it, he graded it, said I could do better, and gave me 2 more days to re-write it. He edited it, made suggestions, and told me to re-rewrite it. I did. He had me read it before the full school assembly. They applauded, and I now enjoy writing. Thanks Mr. Finch.
.....Bob
Heather’s last name is Locklear.
I first came to the US in the late fifties after being bumped by my Canadian school from Grade 2 to Grade 4.
My new US school (NC) decided to drop me back to grade 3,
the reason... I would not be familiar with US history at a grade 4 level.
Today?...School declares ‘Touque Day’ and mandatory instruction in Canadian history... Eh?
1957
likely text in a history book in The United Kingdom:
“Churchill, warned England and the world of the coming agression by
Hitler and the Nazis, while hardly anyone listened. Then helped save
England and the free world”
2007
(blank space, probably filled by politically-correct love for The
Religion of Peace)
Churchill dropped from England’s history syllabus
(”pandering to a P.C. agenda”)
ABC News (Australia), The Sun (U.K.) ^ | July 13, 2007
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1865231/posts
Were you involved with THAT?? One of those who beat up black students?
No, what I'm saying is that in 2007, it is hardly remarkable for 9 black students to go to school. It was a revolutionary act in 1957, and one that could only happen with the assistance of the Army.
Any standard of morality that would deny students the right to go to school based solely on the color of their skin is a standard of morality I don't care to celebrate.
Ooooh, that left a mark. Kudos.
that was my HS in 1988, rifle racks and Social Studies teachers explaining why it was legal for fellow students to do that.
Now a child draws a picture of his Father the Marine, and gets suspended for it.
Homeschool for Pete’s sake!
Where the hell did you guys live where you saw these gentle ass kickings where people shook hands afterwards? The first punch I ever saw land in person drove a kids teeth through his lip. What was left of his lip was hanging there through the rest of the beating. The kid in question didn't come back to the school until the next year, and he was scarred for life physically and mentally.
??? - What on earth gave you that impression?
On the contrary, my point is that high school in 1957 could be an absolutely terrible place -- almost literally a war zone --, particularly if you were black. In many ways, life is a lot better now.
Hint: Not everything is about race.
My high school principle was someone I admired too. In fact, when I am asked to name my favorite teacher, Mr. Benson is the one I always remember. He was the math teacher.(small school) about 100 kids in 9th thru 12th grade.
2006: The Commonwealth of Virginia offers free tuition for either a high school degree or a college degree to those affected during the closure
Yes, things were certainly grand in the 1950's, unless you were poor and/or black.
It’s odd that I went to a school with over 600 kids in the district and 3 of them were black. I can’t imagine segregation.
In other words, it ought to be possible for people discuss the country's general decline in common sense and morality without some annoying nag bringing up all the ways in which the country has dramatically improved in both common sense and morality.
That makes sense. (shakes head)
We do, but not for Pete's sake, but for Christ's
Everything is about race and socio-economic status when it comes to education.
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