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'Cool Farms' Mask The Extent Of Global Warming
New Scientist ^ | 8-14-2007 | Catherine Brahic

Posted on 08/14/2007 2:31:07 PM PDT by blam

'Cool farms' mask the extent of global warming

13:33 14 August 2007
NewScientist.com news service
Catherine Brahic

You've heard of urban heat islands. Now researchers have confirmed the existence of their opposite: cool farm patches.

Whereas urban development generates pockets of hot air, irrigated fields tend to cool things down, they say - and there is evidence that the effects have been felt in California for over a century.

In areas of intensive irrigation, such as the Central Valley in California, US, these "cool farms" have counteracted global warming, say Céline Bonfils and David Lobell of the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California. But they warn that a reduction in irrigation could spell the end of the relief that these regions have enjoyed.

Bonfils and Lobell compared irrigation and temperature data for California between 1915 and 2000, during which time the area of irrigated land in the Central Valley doubled. They found that maximum daytime temperatures in the area were between 0.9 °C and 1.6 °C cooler during this period than areas that were only modestly irrigated.

Extrapolating back to when irrigation began in 1887, they calculate that intensively irrigated parts of the Central Valley are 1.8 °C to 3.2 °C cooler than they would otherwise have been.

Chilly spillover

That cooling occurs because much of the solar energy that hits irrigated ground during the day goes to evaporate the extra water in the soil and in plants instead of heating the air, explains Lara Kueppers of the University of California at Santa Cruz.

(Excerpt) Read more at environment.newscientist.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: california; cool; farms; globalwarming
Ha, Ha!
1 posted on 08/14/2007 2:31:09 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

So THAT’s where the term “Cool beans!” comes from?............


2 posted on 08/14/2007 2:33:14 PM PDT by Red Badger (All I know about Minnesota, I learned from Garrison Keilor..................)
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To: blam

And, those nasty glaciers and ice packs screw up the leftist game plan as well. They should be outlawed!


3 posted on 08/14/2007 2:35:01 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: Red Badger

When was there no climate change?


4 posted on 08/14/2007 2:35:13 PM PDT by HankReardon
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To: blam
That cooling occurs because much of the solar energy that hits irrigated ground during the day goes to evaporate the extra water in the soil and in plants instead of heating the air, explains Lara Kueppers of the University of California at Santa Cruz.

Thus putting more of the number one greenhouse gas, water vapor, into the atmosphere. Brilliant analysis.

5 posted on 08/14/2007 2:36:20 PM PDT by Gulf War One
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To: blam
Grasping at straws. Here's a funny one about the unreliability of computer modeling: Trouble in Climate-Model Paradise
6 posted on 08/14/2007 2:36:30 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: blam

Dr Laura read some news articles on her show about how Arctic ice is drying up and leaving bare dirt and gravel, clear evidence. Newspaper articles from the 1920s.


7 posted on 08/14/2007 2:38:09 PM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: HankReardon

A couple of microseconds before The Big Bang........


8 posted on 08/14/2007 2:38:21 PM PDT by Red Badger (All I know about Minnesota, I learned from Garrison Keilor..................)
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To: blam
What desperation. More excuses than a pregnant nun, more lame retrenching.

Wait! Wait! Maybe this will work!!

"New Scientist" is neither, unless it meant, "Unlike 'Old Science', based on peer reviewed repeatable work, with no agenda other than demonstrated Truth".

" Old science did not prove our agenda, so we invented a form of it that does".

Before the NEA suceeded in dumbing down the population, the site would have been laughed out of existance, or would have been bookmarked in a special folder, along with The Onion, the New York Times, and the Lampoon.

9 posted on 08/14/2007 2:40:18 PM PDT by Gorzaloon (Food imported from China = Cesspool + Flavr-Straw™)
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To: blam

I’ve gotten the New Scientist for years. Used to be all good. Now, only the pure physics section is OK, with the rest being essentially BBC lib arts drivel. I’m canceling my subscription.


10 posted on 08/14/2007 2:45:57 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: blam

The great Leftist enterprise: Bending science to the will of Leftist politics.

Reality, go take a seat over there and we’ll call when we need you.

Media: You already know what to do - Accentuate the hot and ignore the cool.


11 posted on 08/14/2007 2:46:17 PM PDT by Carbonado
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"Indeed..."
12 posted on 08/14/2007 2:49:21 PM PDT by xcamel ("It's Talk Thompson Time!" >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
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To: HankReardon
When was there no climate change?

When the brontosaurus roamed the earth.

13 posted on 08/14/2007 2:50:53 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: vetsvette

And don’t even get me started on the effect of oceans ...


14 posted on 08/14/2007 2:54:31 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Gulf War One
Thus putting more of the number one greenhouse gas, water vapor, into the atmosphere. Brilliant analysis.

I bet it isn't the water vapor so much as it is the man-made clouds. Almost all of the greenhouse effect occurs within 30 feet of the ground surface so boosting greenhouse gases within that low altitude should warm, not cool. It's the white reflective clouds responsible for the cooling. Man-made clouds will be a powerful climate management tool.

15 posted on 08/14/2007 3:00:18 PM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: vetsvette

Exactly! They might as well claim that winters are throwing off their results. Pesky natural occurances.


16 posted on 08/14/2007 3:02:16 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: Gorzaloon

Im heard a humorous story this morn from a Doctor buddy of mine, it goes like this:

The Scientific Method

A scientist was showing a colleague how he could make a grasshopper jump on command. He pulled the grasshopper from his cage put him on the lab table anddemanded it JUMP! Sure enough the grasshopper jumped.

He then pulled off one of the grasshoppers legs and again commanded it to JUMP! which it did. Each time he pulled off another leg and although not as well the Grasshopper jumped when ordered.

The Grasshopper was down to one leg but miraculously when commanded to jump he still managed to accomplish the feat.

The scientist then pulled off the last leg and ordered the Grasshopper to JUMP!....nothing, again JUMP!..... nothing.

The scientist then took out his log and wrote

Conclusion: “The hearing apparatus of the Grasshopper has definitively been proven to be located in the legs.


17 posted on 08/14/2007 3:03:21 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: blam; All

How many of these junk science climatologists were going to be “expert witnesses” at John Kennedy jr’s carbon credit law suit mills?

Climatologist frauds like James Hansen are PAID for their opinions that the earth is dooomed unless laws are changed YESTERDAY.

The end of global warming and its exposure as a grand hoax has real dollar in the pocket impact for these left wingers.


18 posted on 08/14/2007 3:07:11 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: blam

Irrigated fields DO tend to cool the surrounding air.

Just driving home the last two days, I observed the following:

Temperature according to thermometer in our vehicle (outside air): 103 yesterday, 100 today - yes, this matched the official temps.

Temperature reading on our road (surrounded by irrigated fields: 99 yesterday, 97 today.

But it is a LOT more humid...


19 posted on 08/14/2007 3:09:50 PM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: TheBattman
103 yesterday, 100 today

Around here, when it cools down to 100 we break out the sweaters.

20 posted on 08/14/2007 3:30:47 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler ("A person's a person no matter how small." -Dr. Seuss)
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To: TheBattman
Just driving home the last two days, I observed the following: Temperature according to thermometer in our vehicle (outside air): 103 yesterday, 100 today - yes, this matched the official temps.

Temperature reading on our road (surrounded by irrigated fields: 99 yesterday, 97 today.

But it is a LOT more humid...

Water consumes heat energy when it evaporates. That is why "Swamp coolers" work in dry climates. Later, when it condenses into dew at night, it gives back that energy. Net result is zero. It is a moderating influence on daily temperature swings.

Heh. Besides making the dread greenhouse gas "Water Vapor".

21 posted on 08/14/2007 3:34:26 PM PDT by Gorzaloon (Food imported from China = Cesspool + Flavr-Straw™)
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To: blam
That cooling occurs because much of the solar energy that hits
irrigated ground during the day goes to evaporate the extra water
in the soil and in plants instead of heating the air, explains Lara
Kueppers of the University of California at Santa Cruz.


I wish Ms. Kueppers could have worked alongside me in at the
Oklahoma State U. research farm near Perkins, OK.

If she thought excess water in the soil produces "cooling"
she needs to know it sure as Hades doesn't feel that way standing
in a wet field when the full flame-thrower heat of a July sun
comes out from behind the cloud.

And if that steam-heat from a watered field didn't get her,
she'd probably run shrieking back to UCSC and her beloved banana
slugs after getting hit a few times by the wasps in the cotton field.
22 posted on 08/14/2007 3:39:44 PM PDT by VOA
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To: blam

Quick, everybody go out and turn on your lawn sprinklers.


23 posted on 08/14/2007 3:56:22 PM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: blam
In areas of intensive irrigation, such as the Central Valley in California, US, these "cool farms" have counteracted global warming...

Not by enough. The valley is still to darn hot. In Tracy it gets so hot in the summer we sell some of the excess heat to Satan.

The deal was set up a few years back, some lawyers from Tracy were asked how they "liked" their torment, and were foolishness to boast how it was nothing like Tracy, CA in the summer...

24 posted on 08/14/2007 3:57:13 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: HankReardon
Before George W Bush was born?</sarcasm>
25 posted on 08/14/2007 3:59:26 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: cinives
And don’t even get me started on the effect of oceans ...

Really! If the oceans expand as they predict, wouldn't that provide an increase in surface area and evaporative cooling?

26 posted on 08/14/2007 4:04:18 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: blam
So the solution to global warming is MASSIVE IRRIGATION! There problem solved. Desalinate seawater, sink well and pour water over the earth to raise crops.

If it ever actually becomes a problem we can turn the rising seas to freshwater and irrigate. I know that solution doesn’t destroy capitalism, but I guess the enviro- wacko’s cannot have EVERYTHING. ;)

27 posted on 08/14/2007 4:07:27 PM PDT by allmendream (A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal.)
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To: Cementjungle
Depends on what your measuring--the ocean water, or the air near the shore. All temperature is local.

As far as the global mean temperature, it isn't a meaningful statistic anyway, except for the purpose of climate alarm-ism.

28 posted on 08/14/2007 4:09:47 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: blam

The bottom line is, there are many other factors besides GHGs affecting the temperature experienced in any given locale. GHGs/Global Warming/CO2 are totally overblown. Typical Green extremist, knee jerk, chicken little overreaction. Or is it, hype that perfectly addresses an anti capitalist socio economic agenda? Nahhhhhh! What am I thinking?


29 posted on 08/14/2007 4:25:14 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: TheBattman
Temperature according to thermometer in our vehicle (outside air): 103 yesterday, 100 today - yes, this matched the official temps.

Temperature reading on our road (surrounded by irrigated fields: 99 yesterday, 97 today.

But it is a LOT more humid...

More humidity means the atmosphere increases its heat content (it can hold more heat). So overall there is no change or perhaps there will actually be a net heat increase due to the increased water vapor in the atmosphere absorbing more solar radiation (increased green house gases). So it should 'feel' just as hot or perhaps hotter. So basically you get lower temps but higher humidity and this results in a higher heat content. Thus, the explanation for people living in a desert claiming, 'but its a dry heat'.

All temperature readings should be biased with the humidity at the time to accurately reflect changes in atmospheric heat content. That of course would obviously magnify the significance of ocean temperatures :>.

30 posted on 08/14/2007 4:26:18 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: aruanan

Interesting link.


31 posted on 08/14/2007 4:33:06 PM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: justa-hairyape

You are correct - that 99 degrees at my house feel just as hot, if not actually hotter (higher humidity usually results in a larger jump for “heat index”).

I can step out in the garden at 6:30 AM and I don’t even have to bend over or do any work to break out into a massive sweat. IN town, where the temps are actually a couple of degrees warmer, the sweat doesn’t pour off until I actually do some sort of work...

But once the sun is overhead, and the temps get above 97, it all is a wash because it is just hot. High humidity just makes it harder to breath and makes more sweat.


32 posted on 08/14/2007 4:35:51 PM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: blam

In other words, swamp coolers work on a really, really large scale in a dry climate like the Central Valley. The problem is it requires draining the aquifers to feed the irrigation spigots/swamp cooler.

While man-made global warming is very likely a phantom of our imagination, aquifer depletion is a real problem for our way of life.


33 posted on 08/14/2007 5:16:10 PM PDT by Flying Circus
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To: Flying Circus
While man-made global warming is very likely a phantom of our imagination, aquifer depletion is a real problem for our way of life.

We had an ironic twist occur regarding cooling devices during my stay in New Mexico.

Almost all homes there had swamp coolers (to save electricity) until recently, when concern for the aquifers caused new home construction to include refrigerated air (to save water).

34 posted on 08/14/2007 5:51:07 PM PDT by Disambiguator (What's the temperature, Albert?)
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To: blam

gosh,

i’ll bet the cities now have to pay the united nations

and the united nations in return will give some of the monies to farmers.

/s


35 posted on 08/14/2007 5:54:30 PM PDT by ken21 (28 yrs + 2 families = banana republic junta. si.)
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To: blam

But since the most abundant greenhouse gas is water vapor (95%) and more irrigation would produce more water vapor wouldn’t that actually increase temperatures if the goracle was right?


36 posted on 08/14/2007 5:59:21 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Gorzaloon
Besides making the dread greenhouse gas "Water Vapor"."

Since water vapor is the most abundant greenhouse gas and the most effective it can be only a short time before liberals call for restrictions on agriculture in general and irrigation in particular.

37 posted on 08/14/2007 6:20:06 PM PDT by SKI NOW
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To: blam

So they are confirming that additional absorbed energy doesn’t necessarily mean higher temperatures - at least when there is liquid water about?


38 posted on 08/14/2007 6:38:37 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: blam
They found that maximum daytime temperatures in the area were between 0.9 °C and 1.6 °C cooler during this period than areas that were only modestly irrigated.

Well, duh. We knew that. The nighttime lows are also higher. Unless they can seperate the two, that's not "cooling" in the sense of the climate science folks (Tmin + Tmax)/2.

39 posted on 08/14/2007 6:55:11 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: blam
Whereas urban development generates pockets of hot air, irrigated fields tend to cool things down, they say -....

Whereas the sacred "WETLANDS", which the tree huggers have told us are mostly lost to development somehow didn't 'cool things down.'

These clowns are tripping over their own PR machine.

40 posted on 08/14/2007 7:54:31 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Flying Circus
While man-made global warming is very likely a phantom of our imagination, aquifer depletion is a real problem for our way of life.

Man-made clouds from seawater solve both concerns. Free wave action energy could be used to spray seawater. The salt gives the water vapor something to start condensing on. The resulting clouds can reflect up to 95% of sunlight back out to space making the climate cooler. In addition the right kind of man-made clouds can be used as a blanket to retain heat if wanted. The increased rainfall will water crops and wild plant life for free, provide increased freshwater for human use, increase the amount of hydroelectric power, and replenish aquifers. If we mastered cloud-making we could airfreight freshwater in to any geographic area wanted and actively manage local climates.

41 posted on 08/14/2007 9:06:24 PM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Spoken like a true Zonie! (I’m a former Zonie too!)


42 posted on 08/14/2007 10:13:53 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: SKI NOW
Since water vapor is the most abundant greenhouse gas and the most effective it can be only a short time before liberals call for restrictions on agriculture in general and irrigation in particular.

Then we will eat all the cows, quickly, before they starve. This will stop the Methane Greenhouse Gas Emergency Menace! Positive thinking !

43 posted on 08/15/2007 5:04:29 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Food imported from China = Cesspool + Flavr-Straw™)
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