Homeowner kills charging pit bull (AK)

KTUU ^ | August 10, 2007 | Staff

[DaveLoneRanger]

A homeowner in Palmer shot and wounded a pit bull after it charged at him.

Police say they went to the home last week and found two pit bulls had escaped from a nearby residence. 1 of the dogs charged a neighbor.

Police say the dog tried jumping through the neighbor's screen door last week. When it tried again, police say the homeowner shot it.

The dog's owner arrived within minutes and took the wounded dog to the North Star Animal Hospital.

Police say while discharging a firearm is against a city ordinance, the homeowner was well within his rights in trying to defend himself and his home from the dangerous dog.

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[org.whodat]

Police say they went to the home last week and found two pit bulls had escaped from a nearby residence. 1 of the dogs charged a neighbor.

If it had been my yard, the cops would have been on clean up detail the first trip.

[fini]

You have to love the statement “it is against the law to discharge a firearm.” It reminds me of the statement, “common sense takes a holiday.”

[ExSoldier]

I wonder what kind of shot placement and what caliber was used to merely wound the beast? Pit Bulls are the canine equivalent of the Abrams tank. Not easily stopped. Had a buddy who was a cop (a long time ago) shoot one that attacked him with his 38sp revolver duty gun. It took all six rounds to put the dog down. He was teased unmercifully after that incident by the other cops.

The lesson here is: Proper shot placement and use enough gun. If dept rules restrict caliber then proper shot placement and use lots of rounds! Of course as a homeowner facing an intruding dog, my weapon of choice would be a Benelli 12 ga shotgun & #4 Buckshot. That oughta do the job in workmanlike fashion.

[The Coopster]

I am eagerly waiting for the village idiots to show up to defend this worthless breed.

It’s inevitable: It’s not the breed, it’s the owner - they’re really a peaceful dog (until they aren’t) - My pit bull is the sweetest dog ever (until it mauls one of your children unexpectedly), etc.

I’m sure they won’t disappoint. After all - it’s surely a conspiracy by the media against this “dog of peace”.

[org.whodat]

One 22 round will do if you put the little bullet in the ear, are a hair above the eye line.

[rickdylan]

One really good answer to every sort of urban animal problem is the modern compound bow. Everybody should have one.

[org.whodat]

I’m sure they won’t disappoint. After all - it’s surely a conspiracy by the media against this “dog of peace”.

I think there are a couple on this site that are working on proper material to make the little buggers a head dressing.

[spotbust1]

I am eagerly waiting for the village idiots to show up to defend this worthless breed.

I'll pop the popcorn, you bring the drinks.

[Cobra64]

[endthematrix]

What if it was another breed?

[stephenjohnbanker]

““dog of peace”.

ROTFLOL!!

Outlaw the breed.

[stephenjohnbanker]

“Dog of Peace” maul old people and kids every day.

[Moonman62]

The little darling was probably starved for affection and was looking for someone to scratch his ears.

[MaxMax]

Judging by the collar, this dog's name must have been fluffy.
Now it's name is either spike or wormdirt.

[beebuster2000]

wow, is that a real picture? what happd to the dog, i assume those are porcupine quills?

[yorkie]

Wish I was the vet on this one at $20 a quill.........

[xzins]

charging pit bull

Visa or Mastercard

[xzins]

Had a buddy who was a cop (a long time ago) shoot one that attacked him with his 38sp revolver duty gun

How'd the dog get his 38sp?

:>)

[F-117A]

Will this do?

[endthematrix]

I’ve admired your postings on many topics. I agree on most of what you say. I’m surprised that “outlaw” in relation to property rights is in your vocab.

[stormer]

Not this shit again!

[stephenjohnbanker]

Too many vile subhuman protoplasms make their pitbulls mean. I don’t know what else to do at this juncture. I am open to suggestions.

[Mr. Silverback]

What if it was another breed?

Seconded.

[television is just wrong]

I walked out in my backyard a little while ago, A very large pit bull had scalled the wall and was holding my husband at bay. I don’t own, an gun, and probably should at this point.

Calling the animal shelter, they took 1.5 hours to arrive. by that time the pit bull jumped the wall again to his own yard.

[endthematrix]

I’d advocate a county (keep the state out of it -heh!) wide breeders license. Non-profit doggie welfare groups and the various breed registries could supplement the work of government agencies by rooting out “back yard breeders.” The fine could be steep enough to prevent the breeding of bad stock.

Registries should not give authorization to bad stock.
Stop the sheltering and re-distribution of bad animals. Shelters should euthanize and breeders should cull.

It goes without saying to punish the owners and kill the animal if any are involved in any killing/mauling (except in the defense of property - which is many cases of pit attack lore).

[endthematrix]

You know where the dog lives? Talk to the owner and asses the situation, call the police and animal control about it to place it in a file.

[Mr. Silverback]

I don’t know what else to do at this juncture.

I'd like to see a law sending these latent homsexual subhuman protoplasms to jail for a decade or so any time one of these dogs looks at someone funny. But I can't see banning a breed, it violates property rights and the problem is certainly not the dogs.

Ever hear of a boxer named Gerald McClellan? He was the middelweight champ up until February of '95. He's from here in Freeport, IL and he owned a couple of pits, even had the silhouette of one embroidered onto his boxing trunks. The dogs used to get over the fence and go running in the neighborhood. Inevitably, little kids from the neighborhood would bring the dogs back safe and sound. Or take kanawa's dog...Sam is a Staffordshire, isn't he kanawa? Sam saved kanawa from a bear attack by letting the bear chomp on his spine for awhile.

Not only is the problem not the dogs, but if we ban pits we'll all be here in a few years listening to our fellow conservatives call for bans on German Shepherds, Dobermans and St. Bernanrds, because if we ban pits, rots and staffs latent homsexual subhuman protoplasms will move on to some other breed in order to show their "manliness." It's time to put the hurt on the latent homsexual subhuman protoplasms, not the dogs.

[Mr. Silverback]

I recommend three steps, which may avoid tragedy:

1. Got to Wal-Mart.

2. Buy a shotgun.

3. If the dog jumps the fence again, kill it without hesitation.

Optional step 2a is to tell your neighbor he'd better fix this problem, because step 3 is ready to go. That might save the dog's life if your neighbor is a decent person.

I hate the prejudice against pit bulls, but even if your neighbor is a decent guy, it's not your job to evaluate his fitness as a dog trainer. Protect your family.

[DCPatriot]

Heck...he was one of the 1st ones to die!

[stephenjohnbanker]

Then the subhumans need to be hurt by the courts.....BADLY

[Mr. Silverback]

I am for sure down with that, mon ami.

[AlaskaErik]

But I can't see banning a breed, it violates property rights and the problem is certainly not the dogs.

I live within 15 miles of Palmer and my subdivision CCRs ban pit bulls specifically.

[upsdriver]

Those are porcupine quills, but that doesn’t happen like that unless the dog latched on with his teeth and wouldn’t let go. I have seen a lot of dogs who have met porcupines, they don’t get too close for very long. very painful.

[j. earl carter]

I’m with you. Seems to me, the purpose of a dog is simply to alert you to the presence of intruders, not to actually deal with the intruders. A Cocker Spaniel can do this just as well as a Pit Bull (and with a lot less potential for liability).

[arbooz]

Once again a firearm saves the day.

[arbooz]

Benelli 12 ga shotgun

Expensive but sweet.

[Issaquahking]

Great post! Seems like some people's brain check out when it comes to these dogs...have some in-laws that breed this terrible dogs. They might be ready to quit, now that they are closing in on the second set of major medical bills, thanks to the "dogs of peace".

Having pits, is like having a wolverine. Might be cool, but it's a second away from death, or a ruined life. The in - laws know not to even come to my place if they have one of their pit's with them.

[Issaquahking]

Saving a life (buy killing a POS) can’t be measured in dollars. Good choice in self defense.

[csvset]

[ExSoldier]

I got my M121 (forerunner of the Super 90) at a gunshow for about $400. It has the most beautiful wood furniture on it I've seen on any shottie. Also a nice sling, ghost ring sights and it's been pro-ported. This thing kicks so softly that I've been able to put eight shots of Buck into the COM of a target at 15 yards before the first hull hits the ground. I'll never trade or sell or it. Although I am toying with the idea of a Benelli M4 with the collapsible stock.

[ExSoldier]

More importantly, why did it take six rounds to put the cop down? Well, have you ever tried to pull a trigger with a PAW?

[arbooz]

Great tagline.

[Sensei Ern]

The Pitbull haters might think my kneejerk reaction would be to take the side of the pits. You might think I am torn between my Second Ammendment rights and my love for pitbulls.

Hate to disappoint, but not even a moment’s thought about the dog. I am sad it died, but the owner is responsible for allowing the dog to get out.

[Old Student]

“I am eagerly waiting for the village idiots to show up to defend this worthless breed.”

There is, as I understand it, not really a breed called “pit bull.” There are several breeds of bull terriers, with the wide head, mouth full of BIG teeth, and such, that we call pit bulls. When I was a kid, my next-door neighbor raised pit bulls. Trained them, and fought them, too. His favorite was a dog named Bo. Bo used to chew up cinderblocks for light exercise. Neighbor had to muzzle him to breed him. Otherwise he’d kill a female in heat. All his dogs were kept in chain-link cages of about 10’x10’, with covers, and we still checked to see that there weren’t any dogs running around when we went outside. The neighbor was the only one who was safe around those dogs. Not even his wife or kids. We sure weren’t taking any chances. The day Bo lost a fight, we all cheered.

On the other hand, my neighbor now keeps “pit bulls.” They aren’t caged in three dimensions, and have gotten out a few times. Scared He!! out of me each time, but were just friendly and curious. Been about 8 years, no injuries. Come close to filling my pants more than once, though. Their dogs are pets, and have never fought. Not even each other, or we’d be really serious about getting them gone.

When you can describe fairly precisely exactly which dogs you want to get rid of, we can talk about it. Personally, I’m not too fond of German Shepards, despite having owned several of them myself, nor Dobermans, Rottweilers, Akitas, nor much of any kind of pure-breed dog. All my best dogs have been mutts, just like me.

[Old Student]

“Seems to me, the purpose of a dog is simply to alert you to the presence of intruders, not to actually deal with the intruders.”

I have a little mutt, 35lbs of crawl-in-your-lap-love, who does a really good ferocious-killer imitation. I’ve seen her run three potential burglars out of the yard. I did help with the last one: Guy was perched on the fence, watching the dog and looking for a good spot to land, big stick in hand. I put the window up and said “Shannon, you bite him, and I’ll shoot him.” Guy decided to go elsewhere.

[Virginia Ridgerunner]

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[DaveLoneRanger]

You know, I don’t really have a specific opinion either way on this. I know that certain breeds have certain inclinations, and that when we got a Springer Spaniel, they told us he might have Canine Rage Syndrome since that breed often does. He waited a while to exhibit it, and then he drew blood when I tried to stop him from stealing my cheeseburger.

I’m not willing to say all pit bulls are bad, but I will say that most of the defensive canine shootings we see are pit bulls.

[Mr. Silverback]

I am eagerly waiting for the village idiots to show up to defend this worthless breed.

Yes, how stupid we are to defend personal property rights! How idiotic to prefer personal responsibility and robust enforcement of existing laws over government intervention! Why, one must have such a low IQ to hold humans responsible for the behavior of animals they trained!

Gerald McClellan, the middleweight champ, had a pit that could crush a basketball in its jaws. And it did get out occasionally...but the little kids from the neighborhood always brought it back home, wagging its tail...Yep, it's the breed, sho nuff.